??? about Vit D and CLO

[Guest guest]

I am confused now about CLO?

I read on Dr Mercolas site some info and some rebuttals.

Here is a copy and paste of what I am confused about. And also if you

go to the link below more people are saying its dangerous. EEKS.

I take CLO daily and my sister has autoimmune issues and I told her

CLO would be excellent for her but now I am questioning what I am

telling her.

One person even put that she was on CLO daily as a child and she feels

it ruined her and now she has some autoimmune problems or something

along those lines.

Can someone explain this to me?

Is M on here?\

Here is what was written about Vit D and then more info was written if

you go to this link

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/01/Vitamin-D-is-a-Key\

-Player-in-Your-Overall-Health.aspx

Vit d is not a vitamin but a hormone, it was missidentified when

discovered.

Individuals with autoimmune type chronic illnesses(Th1 inflamatory

diseases) such as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, diabetes, sarcoidisis

and others have their 25-d and 1,25-d hormone balance upset by

intracellurar infection by cell wall deficient pathogens, causing high

levels of 1,25-d and low levels of 25-d. This cascades into full

inflamation and tisssue damage to organs infected by the pathogen.

The 1,25-dyhydroxyvitaminD is the active form and 25-D is the

precursor of the " VITAMIN D " secosteroid/hormone and they are both

immunomodulatory. In Th1 disease the pathogen causes excessive

conversion of 1,25 from 25-D, allowing the bacteria to multiply and

mask itself from your immune system.

any vit d supplements or sunshine causes more symptoms and possible

tissue damage.

low vit d tests are actually a cascading conversion of 25-d into

1,25-d and are an Indication of illness(most likely infection by these

pathogens) not inadequate sun or dietary intake of the HORMONE.

Proper testing of both the levels of the hormones will confirm this.

I myself started using cod liver oil and sun tanning, despite healthy

doses

of both, my 25-d never even approached the recommended levels. I was

just getting sicker and gaining weight( excess 1,25-d will displace

thyroid hormones from their cellular receptors).

as I researched this I got tested positive for LUPUS antibodies. When

I quit all sun and supplements my symptoms started to go away.

I followed Dr Mercolas's recommendations on this and almost died. I

hope he revises his stand on this, There is plenty of scientific

information and real life experiences to warrant his attention.

see www.autoimmunityresearch.org for more info

Thanks

MIchelle

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> One person even put that she was on CLO daily as a child and she feels

> it ruined her and now she has some autoimmune problems or something

> along those lines.

>

> Can someone explain this to me?

> Is M on here?\

I don't know how much CLO she took, but it's pretty doubtful it would

have provided too much vitamin D, especially since most varieties are

pretty poor sources of vitamin D (the brands most of us use, however,

are good sources). You can't judge cause and effect in a case like

this, of course, from an anecdote. Personally, if I were to worry

about any component of CLO leading to autoimmune disorders it would be

the EPA. I think it's important to use a small dose of CLO and to get

arachidonic acid to balance the EPA from eggs, liver, etc.

> Here is what was written about Vit D and then more info was written if

> you go to this link

>

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/11/01/Vitamin-D-is-a-Key\

-Player-in-Your-Overall-Health.aspx

I won't have time to look at the Marshall protocol till after the

conference in a couple weeks, maybe in December when my classes are

over. So it's not very fair for me to comment without researching it.

> Vit d is not a vitamin but a hormone, it was missidentified when

> discovered.

Vitamin D is not a hormone. Calcitriol, it's activated form, is, but

not any more than retinoic acid, the activated form of vitamin A, is.

I don't think " vitamin " is a misnomer any more than " mineral " and

" amino acid " are misnomers for iodine and tyrosine because they are

put together to make thyroid hormone.

Chris