Re: book: diagnosis: mercury by J.M. Hightower, MD

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Here are the things that work: DMPS IV, DMSA + Alpha Lipoic Acid, DMPS oral

chelation...Boyd Haley, the chair of biochemistry at the University of Kentucky

has recently come out with a product, Oxidative Stress Relief (OSR). It remains

to be seen how effective it is.

Just to let you know, you will find people who assail DMPS IVs as potentially

harmful. I did five of them and never experienced any problems. They are

expensive though. I am betting my money on OSR, which I will soon start taking.

DMSA is very cheap. One of the main proponents of its use is Cutler. I

resist doing Cutler's protocol (perhaps irrationally) because he has a cult of

followers that act as though he is the only person worth listening to on the

subject. They're like little parrots. If you like the cutlerites have presence

on . Don't mention my name or you will be immediately held as a

persona non grata. I got kicked off for being sceptical.

Good luck,

> From: Helen Wang <dingyung49@...>

> Subject: book: diagnosis: mercury by J.M. Hightower, MD

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> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:54 PM

> I came across this book.  Many of her patients became the

> victim of mercury poisoning due to high consumption of large

> fishes.  nausea, fatigue, trouble concentration and brain

> fog are major symptoms.  I belive farm raised salmon,

> scallops, shrimps have low level of mercury but worry about

> its contamination esp. PCBs.  Are there anyways we can get

> rid of these harmful chemicals?  H202?  baking soda? 

> MMS?  please advice.  Helen

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I just am wondering can we prevent chemical/heavy metal poisoning getting into

our body in the first place instead of doing oral or iv chelating.  eg. good

food hygiene using h202, mms, baking soda for food preparation to get rid of

harmful chemicals esp PCBs and using RO or distill water? 

> From: Helen Wang <dingyung49 (DOT) com>

> Subject: book: diagnosis: mercury by J.M. Hightower, MD

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> I came across this book.  Many of her patients became the

> victim of mercury poisoning due to high consumption of large

> fishes.  nausea, fatigue, trouble concentration and brain

> fog are major symptoms.  I belive farm raised salmon,

> scallops, shrimps have low level of mercury but worry about

> its contamination esp. PCBs.  Are there anyways we can get

> rid of these harmful chemicals?  H202?  baking soda? 

> MMS?  please advice.  Helen

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> I just am wondering can we prevent chemical/heavy

> metal poisoning getting into our body in the first place

> instead of doing oral or iv chelating.  eg. good food

> hygiene using h202, mms, baking soda for food preparation to

> get rid of harmful chemicals esp PCBs and using RO or

> distill water? 

If we are talking about mercury, I think the main culprit is mercury amalgam in

people's mouth. If you have mercury amalgams in your mouth, you can have the

best water filter in the world and you are still going to be mercury burdened.

But, yeah, obviously a really good water filter can rid the water supply of

nasty stuff like fluoride.

[Guest guest]

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I resisted doing Andy Cutler's protocol for 2 1/2 years. Part of

this was because for 2 years I refused to take mineral supplements

(besides selenium which I experimented with at some point) and

b-vitamins, and wanted to get it all from food, and thought the

amounts he recommended were just way too high. Another part was

because I hated the idea of having to get up 2-3 times during the

night to dose with the chelator...

Well after a while and not seeing improvement fast enough and getting

anxious about a complete recovery, I tried supplementing with zinc and

magnesium and I certainly saw more improvement after that. Then I

added some coenzymated B Vitamins and saw more improvement from that,

even though I should have been getting enough from a nutrient dense

diet where I ate raw liver somewhat often.

Then after realizing a lot of my body symptoms went away but I still

had a lot of mental symptoms I got Andy's book Amalgam Illness and he

goes into detail about how Mercury is extremely difficult to get out

of the brain...and it barely just trickles out on its own naturally,

and people who had exposures decades earlier and no known exposures

after that still had brains loaded with mercury when autopsied. The

only thing that is able to sneak inorganic mercury through the blood

brain barrier seems to be Alpha Lipoic Acid...which is why it is such

a great chelator but also needs to be used with caution, as improper

use can also carry inorganic mercury in the body into the brain. The

other chelators (DMSA and DMPS) only clear extracellular mercury,

which basically is mercury in the blood so they are very limited in

cleaning up mercury because of that, yet ALA can get into all of your

organs and transfer the mercury out because it is both water soluble

and fat soluble and passes all of the membranes without a problem.

The group that is run by the 'cutlerites' is strict...they now will

tell you openly if you don't believe in the frequent dose chelation to

go to another chelation forum. Please don't judge Andy Cutler by

that group, he didn't create it, but by his books as he presents all

the reasons why he believes what he does in those.

I have done a lot of stuff that they would say is harmful too, without

apparent bad reaction...but why would you need DMPS injections when

taking it orally is apparently effective as well? Before I read up on

the theory of frequent dose chelation I was taking alpha lipoic acid

in small doses after exercise hoping to absorb the mercury that was

released. This is supposedly really bad according to Andy but I never

got bad symptoms from it...but I tell you after trying frequent low

dose chelation for 3 days with alpha lipoic acid I could definitely

tell a big difference in the ways dosing affected me. I don't know

how bad your symptoms are but I would give DMSA or DMPS frequent dose

chelation a try, and if you have had your fillings removed more than 3

months ago give ALA frequent dose chelation a try. I really feel much

better symptom wise the whole time I am chelating, with just a slight

crash the day after stopping but I pick back up and feel better after

that. Just trying it helped me decide that frequent dose chelating is

the safest and most effective way to clear mercury from the body...but

I guess it helps to also know the theory of why it is best from Andy's

Amalgam Illness Book. There is a world of difference between Andy's

book and the information you get from the groups in clarity and

conciseness.

Sorry for making that so long!

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> > victim of mercury poisoning due to high consumption of large

> > fishes.  nausea, fatigue, trouble concentration and brain

> > fog are major symptoms.  I belive farm raised salmon,

> > scallops, shrimps have low level of mercury but worry about

> > its contamination esp. PCBs.  Are there anyways we can get

> > rid of these harmful chemicals?  H202?  baking soda? 

> > MMS?  please advice.  Helen

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Highish amounts of vitamin C prevent it " soaking in " as well. I've

read lots of studies where the difference between people who got sick

from environmental toxins, like lead, mercury, etc. and those that

didn't was the amount of vitamin C they consumed. Of course, if they

weren't taking supplements, then it would also imply a diet higher in

fruits, wouldn't it? Hmmm.

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> > victim of mercury poisoning due to high consumption of large

> > fishes.  nausea, fatigue, trouble concentration and brain

> > fog are major symptoms.  I belive farm raised salmon,

> > scallops, shrimps have low level of mercury but worry about

> > its contamination esp. PCBs.  Are there anyways we can get

> > rid of these harmful chemicals?  H202?  baking soda? 

> > MMS?  please advice.  Helen

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[Guest guest]

You might want to get some of the Seafood Watch cards. I got a pack

of 100 for free years ago for Earth Day. It's a business-sized fold-

out guide to which kinds of seafood are being unsustainably harvested

in the wild, or raised in environmentally harmful ways and it also

marks which are the most likely to have mercury contamination.

Here's a link to their site, you can poke around and find the cards.

If they'd rather give you a higher amount, you can put them in your

local health food store for others, probably.

http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/SeafoodWatch/web/sfw_factsheet.a

spx?gid=20

Here's what they had for farmed salmon!

Health Alert

Salmon farmers may use pesticides and antibiotics to control

outbreaks of disease. When consumers eat this fish, the residues from

the chemicals may affect their health or interfere with medicines

they're taking. Environmental Defense Fund has issued a health

advisory for farmed salmon due to high levels of PCBs and dioxins.

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> > > Subject: book: diagnosis: mercury by J.M. Hightower, MD

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> > > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:54 PM

> > > I came across this book.  Many of her patients became the

> > > victim of mercury poisoning due to high consumption of large

> > > fishes.  nausea, fatigue, trouble concentration and brain

> > > fog are major symptoms.  I belive farm raised salmon,

> > > scallops, shrimps have low level of mercury but worry about

> > > its contamination esp. PCBs.  Are there anyways we can get

> > > rid of these harmful chemicals?  H202?  baking soda? 

> > > MMS?  please advice.  Helen

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