Re: Re: high fructose ads & about HYDROGENATION & lard

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'm saving this to remind myself.

On Nov 1, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Tom Jeanne wrote:

Formerly manufacturers would partially hydrogenate the source oils to

get the desired softness and melting point. When you stop the reaction

partway, you're left with more saturated fat and less unsaturated fat

than beforehand, but some of the unsaturated cis fat has been

isomerized to trans fat. In the case of lard, they probably do not

fully hydrogenate because it would make the consistency harder than

desired.

Many manufacturers are now switching to full hydrogenation to

eliminate trans fats. (What they should be doing is switching back to

tropical oils or tallow, of course) You can achieve the same results

as partial hydrogenation by fully hydrogenating only a portion and

leaving the rest untouched. Here is an example of " lard and

hydrogenated lard " with no trans fat:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10449263

Parashis

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[Guest guest]

I remember that Citric Acid is bad but don't remember why. Do you? Is

it really MSG? I stay away from anything that has citric acid on the

label.

On Nov 1, 2008, at 6:57 PM, wrote:

I notice this lard has " Bha, Propyl Gallate & Citric Acid Added As

Preservatives " .

Parashis

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[Guest guest]

Citric acid is made from corn via fermentation. AFAIK, there's no MSG in it

which makes sense because there's no protein in it.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Parashis

<artpages@...>wrote:

> I remember that Citric Acid is bad but don't remember why. Do you? Is

> it really MSG? I stay away from anything that has citric acid on the

> label.

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[Guest guest]

On Nov 2, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Lana Gibbons wrote:

Citric acid is made from corn via fermentation. AFAIK, there's no MSG

in it

which makes sense because there's no protein in it.

I couldn't let it go because I knew I had heard it and felt amazed at

so benign sounding an item should be so bad. Here's the link from

Weston Price site and the paragraph that mentioned it.

The food ingredient " citric acid " provides us with a good example of

why MSG-sensitive people with little tolerance are having difficulty

staying well. Many people believe that " citric acid " comes from citrus

fruits, and since most people can tolerate citrus fruits, " citric acid "

should not be a problem. However, most of the " citric acid " used today

is made from corn rather than from citrus fruits. The Archer s

Midland Company (ADM) is a major producer of " citric acid. "

" Citric acid " is produced by fermentation of crude sugars. When

" citric acid " is produced from corn, manufacturers do not take the time

or undertake the expense to remove all corn protein. During processing,

the remaining protein is hydrolyzed, resulting in some processed free

glutamic acid (MSG). " Citric acid " may also interacts with any protein

in the food to which it is added, freeing up more glutamic acid.

http://www.westonaprice.org/msg/msgfree.html

A visit to the grocery store to read labels will quickly demonstrate

that " citric acid " is being widely used in processed foods. Its use

appears to be increasing and, as this occurs, it appears that, based on

interactions with MSG-sensitive individuals, more and more

MSG-sensitive people are reacting to " citric acid. " Its uses in food

include flavoring, balancing of acid-alkalinity levels, as a

preservative, as a firming agent and as an antibacterial agent.

Consumers will find no reference to the presence of free glutamic acid

on the labels of foods that contain " citric acid. "

Parashis

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