race and accomplishment, etc. /Re: POLITICS - Bailout Reader was: Secre

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All of these minority-groups/nationality-groups are made up of

individuals. The kind of individual who would step outside of what's

*expected*, what is " average " , for their group, to go live in a

different country, to go to college, whatever, is going to be an

" above-average " person. Most people are not above average. Most people

don't have the inherent strength to fight against and overcome all

that many barriers. They resign themselves to surviving within the

framework that has been laid out for them -- by their society, their

family, their government.

Some people who feel that they have overcome the odds end up feeling

like they are so superior to the rest of humanity that that

rest-of-humanity doesn't deserve anything good. They become so

disdainful of anybody they think isn't as " good " or " strong " as them

that they want to do whatever they can to grasp at more and more, and

do whatever they can to keep those " average " people from having

anything. at. all. Wonder what their ends are like; if they ever find

theirself in a situation not of their own making which they can't get

out of, do they suddenly in their own mind become one of those people

who don't even deserve to live?...

Joy

>

> > Having never been a minority we can't speak to what is racist and

> > what is them trying to get equality very well.

>

> I'm curious, to whom are you referring to as " we " ? Do you have a

> breakdown of the racial makeup of the people who post/lurk on this

> list?

>

> > There are many in

> > this country who feel that enough members of the majority are racist

> > that it is a struggle for minorities to get by and achieve the same

> > standard of living as the rest of us.

>

> Perception and feelings are often not the same as reality, and except

> for a relatively small segment of the black population in America, the

> numbers don't jibe with reality. Besides the fact it is a myth that

> racism, i.e. discrimination, leads to poverty.

>

> " Prior to the 1964 Act, when few welfare or transfer payment programs

> as such were in place, a majority of blacks had actually pulled

> themselves above the poverty line despite open hostility from many

> whites and open segregation and discrimination in job and housing

> markets. On several other measures- from youth employment to crime,

> blacks posted a much better showing prior to the expansion of the

> welfare state, or the affirmative action era, than after. "

>

> This blows up myths on both the right and left, but I won't go there

> at the moment.

>

> " As Sowell observes, the Chinese have never enjoyed an equal

> playing field in Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, or

> Vietnam, yet the Chinese minority in these countries – a mere five

> percent of the population – owns most of these nations' total

> investments in a variety of key industries. In Mala