Re: high fructose ads & about LAR

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> Ideally it's best to keep

> PUFA to about 4% of total fat intake.

Do you have a reference for this or is this something you gleaned off

the WAPF site?

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On 11/1/08, <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

>> Ideally it's best to keep

>> PUFA to about 4% of total fat intake.

> Do you have a reference for this or is this something you gleaned off

> the WAPF site?

I second the question. I haven't seen anything in the literature

indicating that PUFA below 4% of calories is safe.

Chris

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--- wrote:

> > > Ideally it's best to keep PUFA to about 4% of total fat intake.

>

--- <slethnobotanist@...> wrote:

> > Do you have a reference for this or is this something you gleaned

> > off the WAPF site?

>

--- Masterjohn " <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> I second the question. I haven't seen anything in the literature

> indicating that PUFA below 4% of calories is safe.

and ,

No references. Just my opinion at this point. The reasoning is

simple. IIRC PUFA is implicated in immune suppression, inflammation,

and oxidative stress. So it seems logical to me to keep it low for

optimal health, near what is found in the lowest animal fats, which is

around 4%. I do recall seeing speculation that healthy native diets

were generally under 10% PUFA although that would be difficult to prove.

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--- <oz4caster@...> wrote:

> and ,

> No references.

Actually, I do have a reference, although I'm not sure what data was

used to support this conclusion:

http://www.westonaprice.org/brochures/wapfbrochure.html

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Characteristics of Traditional Diets

7. Total fat content of traditional diets varies from 30 percent to 80

percent of calories but only about 4 percent of calories come from

polyunsaturated oils naturally occurring in grains, legumes, nuts,

fish, animal fats and vegetables. The balance of fat calories is in

the form of saturated and monounsaturated fatty acids.

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Here, the reference is in the context of total calories, rather than

percentage of fat calories. But if you eat a diet that has 60% of

calories from fat like I do, 4% of total calories translates to 6.7%

of fat calories. If you eat a diet that has only 20% of calories from

fat (which I believe is too low in fat to be optimal) then it would

correspond to 20% of fat calories. For a diet with 80% of calories

from fat, the 4% of total calories corresponds to 5% of fat calories.