Guest guest Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Hi Jeff, I personally used the Zimmer system for about 8 years when I switched to Davol, 1) for cost, 2) for suction divertor tip and ability to use gun 5-8 times, and 3) for technical support. I have been using the Davol product for the past 10 years, it is a great product, no problems with use, no increased time. Pam Pamela G. Unger, PT, CWS Celleration MIST Therapy Director of Post Market Research, Clinicals and Reimbursement (Cell) (Office) punger@... ________________________________ From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf Of BROWN,JEFF Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:13 AM To: PTManager Subject: wound care We are considering changing our Pulsavac treatment equipment from Zimmer to Davol's Simpulse VariCare system. It allows for the re-using of the lavage gun up to 5 treatment and looks like it could save us considerable cost. Our concern is the efficiency of use and set up. Does anyone have any experience with this system? Or can anyone provide a comparison of the two? Jeff Brown PT ________________________________ Upgrade Your Email - Click here! <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo & El= & SG= & RAND=6602 0 & partner=spamblockerutility> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 I work out of a hospital based therapy department. For outpatient woundcare, we are currently reimbursed $53-$66 per treatment for selective debridement (CPT 97597 or 97598)and $0 for non-selective debridement (CPT 97602) from medicare. BCBS pays $68-92 for selective, and $68 for non-selective debridement. Are there any hospital based PT practices out there, with Noridian as their fiscal intermediary, getting paid for the non-selective (97602)code? I, too, am trying to decide if it is fiscally beneficial to take on more woundcare when we get $0 from medicare for non-selective woundcare....that could be a majority of the cases. Engesether, MPT North Country Health Services Bemidji, MN > > Are most insurances paying decently for wound care? What codes are most > appropriate and payable? Would someone be able to give me a general idea on > the average payment? We are thinking of providing wound care but don't want > to invest in all of the supplies and equipment if there is little need or > little reimbursement. > > > > Thank you > > Diane Skaff > > Valley Rehabilitation > > > > From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf > Of BROWN,JEFF > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:45 AM > To: PTManager > Subject: wound care > > > > We currently are using Pulsavac/Pulsed lavage treatment in our Wound Clinic, > however we have had a very difficult time purchasing the guns. Firstly > because Zimmer had some sort of manufacturing problem and were unable to > provide our guns and secondly; Now Styker is unable to keep up with the > added volume demands due to Zimmer's problems and is also now unable to meet > our supply demands. > > Question: In addition to Davol, is there another pulsavac gun manufacturer > that anyone is aware of AND/OR what are some of the alternatives to pulsavac > lavage currently being used. I have been researching the use of ultrasound > treatment but question the lavage/cleaning/debridement capabilities of this > treatment to be a suitable replacement. > > Thanks in advance for any information and direction. > > Jeff Brown PT > Director of Rehabilitation > Decatur Memorial Hospital > Decatur, Illinois > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 > 7:19 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Medicare does not reimburse for 97602 on national basis. It is considered a bundled service and you cannot bill the patient. Rick Gawenda, PT President/CEO Gawenda Seminars http://www.gawendaseminars.com I work out of a hospital based therapy department. For outpatient woundcare, we are currently reimbursed $53-$66 per treatment for selective debridement (CPT 97597 or 97598)and $0 for non-selective debridement (CPT 97602) from medicare. BCBS pays $68-92 for selective, and $68 for non-selective debridement. Are there any hospital based PT practices out there, with Noridian as their fiscal intermediary, getting paid for the non-selective (97602)code? I, too, am trying to decide if it is fiscally beneficial to take on more woundcare when we get $0 from medicare for non-selective woundcare....that could be a majority of the cases. Engesether, MPT North Country Health Services Bemidji, MN > > Are most insurances paying decently for wound care? What codes are most > appropriate and payable? Would someone be able to give me a general idea on > the average payment? We are thinking of providing wound care but don't want > to invest in all of the supplies and equipment if there is little need or > little reimbursement. > > > > Thank you > > Diane Skaff > > Valley Rehabilitation > > > > From: PTManager [mailto:PTManager ] On Behalf > Of BROWN,JEFF > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:45 AM > To: PTManager > Subject: wound care > > > > We currently are using Pulsavac/Pulsed lavage treatment in our Wound Clinic, > however we have had a very difficult time purchasing the guns. Firstly > because Zimmer had some sort of manufacturing problem and were unable to > provide our guns and secondly; Now Styker is unable to keep up with the > added volume demands due to Zimmer's problems and is also now unable to meet > our supply demands. > > Question: In addition to Davol, is there another pulsavac gun manufacturer > that anyone is aware of AND/OR what are some of the alternatives to pulsavac > lavage currently being used. I have been researching the use of ultrasound > treatment but question the lavage/cleaning/debridement capabilities of this > treatment to be a suitable replacement. > > Thanks in advance for any information and direction. > > Jeff Brown PT > Director of Rehabilitation > Decatur Memorial Hospital > Decatur, Illinois > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.134 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 > 7:19 PM > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I am looking for a good wound care course. I would like it to be PT based regarding modalities, documentation,appropriate orders, billing, wound care team, dressings, etc. I have a basic knowledge of wound care but it has been awhile since I received CEU's on the subject and I want it to be worthwhile. I am from the Iowa/Illinois area but am willing to do some traveling. Kristie Leverenz PT UTS Inc. kmlev@... 7411 112th Street Blue Grass, IA 52726 (563)343-4730 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 The Clinical Symposium on Advances in Skin and Wound Care will be Oct. in Las Vegas. _www.symposiumwoundcare.com_ (http://www.symposiumwoundcare.com) or call 1 ext 7750. It is a 4 day seminar covering a variety of topics related to wound care. In the spring(April) you have the SAWC and WHS Symposium on Advanced Wound Care _www.sawc.net_ (http://www.sawc.net) . Both are excellent meetings. Newton, PT Doctor of Physical Therapy Board Certified in Orthopedics Board Certified in Wound Care In a message dated 9/10/2008 3:35:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, leverenzm@... writes: I am looking for a good wound care course. I would like it to be PT based regarding modalities, documentation,based regarding modalities, docum wound care team, dressings, etc. I have a basic knowledge of wound care but it has been awhile since I received CEU's on the subject and I want it to be worthwhile. I am from the Iowa/Illinois area but am willing to do some traveling. Kristie Leverenz PT UTS Inc. _kmlev@..._ (mailto:kmlev@...) 7411 112th Street Blue Grass, IA 52726 (563)343-4730 **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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