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, you may want to consider a new surgeon.

Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your insurance. I would look

into that.

For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it seems kind of like

banging your head against a brick wall asking us to lose 10% of our body weight.

If we could do that, why would we be having a life altering surgery?

You are new enough in the process that you can switch surgeons. Contact your

insurance and talk to them about a referral to another surgeon that they would

cover.

Carol

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Hi Carol,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it's Kaiser and it's an

HMO. They are very strict in their requirements and will not refer

me elsewhere. The great thing is that WHEN I meet the requirement,

I won't have to pay a penny. But it's frustrating in the process.

Thanks again, though. I appreciate the consideration and thought

you put into your response.

>

> , you may want to consider a new surgeon.

>

> Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your insurance.

I would look into that.

>

> For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it seems

kind of like banging your head against a brick wall asking us to

lose 10% of our body weight. If we could do that, why would we be

having a life altering surgery?

>

> You are new enough in the process that you can switch surgeons.

Contact your insurance and talk to them about a referral to another

surgeon that they would cover.

>

> Carol

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

>

>

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Are you northern or Southern California?

Stacey

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From: GastricBypass-LOSERS

[mailto:GastricBypass-LOSERS ] On Behalf Of bizzarrea

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:45 AM

To: GastricBypass-LOSERS

Subject: Re: Hello, My Name is

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it's Kaiser and it's an

HMO. They are very strict in their requirements and will not refer

me elsewhere. The great thing is that WHEN I meet the requirement,

I won't have to pay a penny. But it's frustrating in the process.

Thanks again, though. I appreciate the consideration and thought

you put into your response.

>

> , you may want to consider a new surgeon.

>

> Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your insurance.

I would look into that.

>

> For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it seems

kind of like banging your head against a brick wall asking us to

lose 10% of our body weight. If we could do that, why would we be

having a life altering surgery?

>

> You are new enough in the process that you can switch surgeons.

Contact your insurance and talk to them about a referral to another

surgeon that they would cover.

>

> Carol

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

>

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Northern California. Bay Area.

:)

> >

> > , you may want to consider a new surgeon.

> >

> > Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your

insurance.

> I would look into that.

> >

> > For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it seems

> kind of like banging your head against a brick wall asking us to

> lose 10% of our body weight. If we could do that, why would we be

> having a life altering surgery?

> >

> > You are new enough in the process that you can switch

surgeons.

> Contact your insurance and talk to them about a referral to

another

> surgeon that they would cover.

> >

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

> >

> >

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There is also a support group for Kaiser patients and most of the people in

the group are from Northern California.

Here is the site:

gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients

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Good luck with everything!

Stacey

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[mailto:GastricBypass-LOSERS ] On Behalf Of bizzarrea

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:04 AM

To: GastricBypass-LOSERS

Subject: Re: Hello, My Name is

Northern California. Bay Area.

:)

> >

> > , you may want to consider a new surgeon.

> >

> > Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your

insurance.

> I would look into that.

> >

> > For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it seems

> kind of like banging your head against a brick wall asking us to

> lose 10% of our body weight. If we could do that, why would we be

> having a life altering surgery?

> >

> > You are new enough in the process that you can switch

surgeons.

> Contact your insurance and talk to them about a referral to

another

> surgeon that they would cover.

> >

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

> >

> >

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Hi Stacey, Thank you SO much! I was not aware of this site!!

Thanks again!! You're wonderful!

> > >

> > > , you may want to consider a new surgeon.

> > >

> > > Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your

> insurance.

> > I would look into that.

> > >

> > > For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it

seems

> > kind of like banging your head against a brick wall asking us to

> > lose 10% of our body weight. If we could do that, why would we

be

> > having a life altering surgery?

> > >

> > > You are new enough in the process that you can switch

> surgeons.

> > Contact your insurance and talk to them about a referral to

> another

> > surgeon that they would cover.

> > >

> > > Carol

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

> > >

> > >

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Anytime!!!!!

Stacey

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From: GastricBypass-LOSERS

[mailto:GastricBypass-LOSERS ] On Behalf Of bizzarrea

Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:31 AM

To: GastricBypass-LOSERS

Subject: Re: Hello, My Name is

Hi Stacey, Thank you SO much! I was not aware of this site!!

Thanks again!! You're wonderful!

> > >

> > > , you may want to consider a new surgeon.

> > >

> > > Is it only the surgeon that requires the 10% or your

> insurance.

> > I would look into that.

> > >

> > > For people who can't lose weight the traditional way it

seems

> > kind of like banging your head against a brick wall asking us to

> > lose 10% of our body weight. If we could do that, why would we

be

> > having a life altering surgery?

> > >

> > > You are new enough in the process that you can switch

> surgeons.

> > Contact your insurance and talk to them about a referral to

> another

> > surgeon that they would cover.

> > >

> > > Carol

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

> > >

> > >

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Hi ,

Hope you're feeling better.

I totally feel for you. I have to lose the required 10% too before

surgery. I meet with the doctor on April 25th. He'll weigh me and

set a date for the surgery. I weight 287 now, so if I don't lose 29

pounds by then I get to go home to lose the weight before they set a

date. It's so frustrating. I have a band fitted, and haven't been

able to lose any weight, and now they expect me to lose all of a

sudden.

I really don't think I'll make it. But I am putting a lot of effort

into it though. I have started going to the gym twice a week and I

am on a strict carb-free diet, that promises 10 pounds in 10 days.

I'll let you know if it helps.

You might consider walking 30 to 45 minutes every day. It's

supposed to help shed weight faster. I don't have a treadmill and

the weather here is awful (I live in Europe) so I go to the gym

instead. But I know walking is better.

I hope you lose the weight.

Take care,

Sid

>

> Hello everyone. I love your support group, I read it every day.

I

> am pre-surgery. As of yet, I do not have a surgery date although

I

> have been approved for the surgery and have all my pre-testing

> completed.

>

> In order to schedule my surgery date, I have to lose 10% of my

body

> weight. The surgeon's office will not even schedule until I'm

> within 10 pounds of my goal weight and then I MUST lose that ten

> pounds by the day of surgery.

>

> In addition to this, I had to quit smoking. My quit smoking date

> was October 18th, 2005. For this, I am very proud of myself, and

> feel much better just from quitting smoking alone.

>

> Having said that, it has been ten times harder for me to lose the

> required 10% weight. In fact, when they weighed me in the

surgeon's

> office my weight was 294. They set my required weight at 265.

> Since I left the office that day, I have actually gained weight!

> So, now I need to lose the extra weight I've gained in addition to

> the required weight. I'm frustrated. I've been on Weight

Watchers

> for 2 weeks now, solemenly sticking to it, and if you can believe

> this, I have gained TWO pounds! I'm at my wit's end!! I broke

down

> today. I just want to get to the point that I am able to have the

> surgery. I don't know what's happening. It's almost like

quitting

> smoking slowed my metabolism so much that I can't lose weight even

> on a 1200 calorie diet.

>

> I'm not really looking for any advice. Maybe just some support.

> I'm fed up with myself and with my weight. I just want to lose

the

> weight I need to lose in order to get to my surgery date.

>

> Please keep me in your prayers. I'm 32 years young, and have so

> much to look forward to once my body is transformed into an

active,

> healthy, fit vehicle.

>

> Thank you for having this support group. I watch your messages

> every day and find things that constantly apply to me.

>

>

>

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Hi . I can understand your frustration. Weight Watchers is the best program

in my opinion that I feel will work best for you. In 2 1/2 mo. I lost 30+

pounds. You can do this. Just keep going by the book on WW and exercise. Drink

LOTS and LOTS of water!! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shauna

bizzarrea wrote:

Hello everyone. I love your support group, I read it every day. I

am pre-surgery. As of yet, I do not have a surgery date although I

have been approved for the surgery and have all my pre-testing

completed.

In order to schedule my surgery date, I have to lose 10% of my body

weight. The surgeon's office will not even schedule until I'm

within 10 pounds of my goal weight and then I MUST lose that ten

pounds by the day of surgery.

In addition to this, I had to quit smoking. My quit smoking date

was October 18th, 2005. For this, I am very proud of myself, and

feel much better just from quitting smoking alone.

Having said that, it has been ten times harder for me to lose the

required 10% weight. In fact, when they weighed me in the surgeon's

office my weight was 294. They set my required weight at 265.

Since I left the office that day, I have actually gained weight!

So, now I need to lose the extra weight I've gained in addition to

the required weight. I'm frustrated. I've been on Weight Watchers

for 2 weeks now, solemenly sticking to it, and if you can believe

this, I have gained TWO pounds! I'm at my wit's end!! I broke down

today. I just want to get to the point that I am able to have the

surgery. I don't know what's happening. It's almost like quitting

smoking slowed my metabolism so much that I can't lose weight even

on a 1200 calorie diet.

I'm not really looking for any advice. Maybe just some support.

I'm fed up with myself and with my weight. I just want to lose the

weight I need to lose in order to get to my surgery date.

Please keep me in your prayers. I'm 32 years young, and have so

much to look forward to once my body is transformed into an active,

healthy, fit vehicle.

Thank you for having this support group. I watch your messages

every day and find things that constantly apply to me.

We are a very active support group.

If the email becomes overwhelming,

please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

Please contact Group Creator

Robyn@...

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Hi .....Welcome to our group!! I still to this day don't understand why the

doctor wants people to lose weight before surgery???? I know it has something to

do with the fat around the liver or something. Anyways if I were you I would try

one like weight watchers. I think it is one of the better food plans out there

and you don't get board with your food choices.....And you really do lose

weight. Just a suggestion. Good luck.

Barb :)

bizzarrea wrote:

Hello everyone. I love your support group, I read it every day. I

am pre-surgery. As of yet, I do not have a surgery date although I

have been approved for the surgery and have all my pre-testing

completed.

In order to schedule my surgery date, I have to lose 10% of my body

weight. The surgeon's office will not even schedule until I'm

within 10 pounds of my goal weight and then I MUST lose that ten

pounds by the day of surgery.

In addition to this, I had to quit smoking. My quit smoking date

was October 18th, 2005. For this, I am very proud of myself, and

feel much better just from quitting smoking alone.

Having said that, it has been ten times harder for me to lose the

required 10% weight. In fact, when they weighed me in the surgeon's

office my weight was 294. They set my required weight at 265.

Since I left the office that day, I have actually gained weight!

So, now I need to lose the extra weight I've gained in addition to

the required weight. I'm frustrated. I've been on Weight Watchers

for 2 weeks now, solemenly sticking to it, and if you can believe

this, I have gained TWO pounds! I'm at my wit's end!! I broke down

today. I just want to get to the point that I am able to have the

surgery. I don't know what's happening. It's almost like quitting

smoking slowed my metabolism so much that I can't lose weight even

on a 1200 calorie diet.

I'm not really looking for any advice. Maybe just some support.

I'm fed up with myself and with my weight. I just want to lose the

weight I need to lose in order to get to my surgery date.

Please keep me in your prayers. I'm 32 years young, and have so

much to look forward to once my body is transformed into an active,

healthy, fit vehicle.

Thank you for having this support group. I watch your messages

every day and find things that constantly apply to me.

We are a very active support group.

If the email becomes overwhelming,

please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

Please contact Group Creator

Robyn@...

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I forgot to tell you CONGRATULATIONS on quitting smoking....A big plus for your

health!! Barb :)

Barbara wrote: Hi .....Welcome to our group!!

I still to this day don't understand why the doctor wants people to lose weight

before surgery???? I know it has something to do with the fat around the liver

or something. Anyways if I were you I would try one like weight watchers. I

think it is one of the better food plans out there and you don't get board with

your food choices.....And you really do lose weight. Just a suggestion. Good

luck.

Barb :)

bizzarrea wrote:

Hello everyone. I love your support group, I read it every day. I

am pre-surgery. As of yet, I do not have a surgery date although I

have been approved for the surgery and have all my pre-testing

completed.

In order to schedule my surgery date, I have to lose 10% of my body

weight. The surgeon's office will not even schedule until I'm

within 10 pounds of my goal weight and then I MUST lose that ten

pounds by the day of surgery.

In addition to this, I had to quit smoking. My quit smoking date

was October 18th, 2005. For this, I am very proud of myself, and

feel much better just from quitting smoking alone.

Having said that, it has been ten times harder for me to lose the

required 10% weight. In fact, when they weighed me in the surgeon's

office my weight was 294. They set my required weight at 265.

Since I left the office that day, I have actually gained weight!

So, now I need to lose the extra weight I've gained in addition to

the required weight. I'm frustrated. I've been on Weight Watchers

for 2 weeks now, solemenly sticking to it, and if you can believe

this, I have gained TWO pounds! I'm at my wit's end!! I broke down

today. I just want to get to the point that I am able to have the

surgery. I don't know what's happening. It's almost like quitting

smoking slowed my metabolism so much that I can't lose weight even

on a 1200 calorie diet.

I'm not really looking for any advice. Maybe just some support.

I'm fed up with myself and with my weight. I just want to lose the

weight I need to lose in order to get to my surgery date.

Please keep me in your prayers. I'm 32 years young, and have so

much to look forward to once my body is transformed into an active,

healthy, fit vehicle.

Thank you for having this support group. I watch your messages

every day and find things that constantly apply to me.

We are a very active support group.

If the email becomes overwhelming,

please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

Please contact Group Creator

Robyn@...

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Hi ---

Stick with the WW program and you will lose the 10%, it will be hard

but, so worth it. The reasons that the Docs want us to lose prior

to surgery are:

1. You are making a lifestyle change, not going on another diet.

You need to begin your new, life-long habits now.

2. The less you weigh the less the risks.

3. Your " innards " change and make it easier to perform and recover

from the surgery.

4. It gives you a lower weight to start from, YAY!

I had my WLS on 9/13/04. I was diligent in the 6 months prior to

surgery and was able to lose 63 pounds. At surgery I weighed 368

and this morning weighed in at 168 --- 200 pounds since surgery and

263 overall. Was it worth all the hard work? ABSO FREKING LOOTLEY!

Would I do it all again? YES and twenty years faster.

Come and join us on the LOSER'S SIDE --- you will love it here and

you are so very worth it!

Rory G.

Pittsburg, CA

LAP RNY Dr. Tanaka Pacific Bariatrics

Start: 431 At Surgery: 368 Now: 168

> Hello everyone. I love your support group, I read it every

day. I

> am pre-surgery. As of yet, I do not have a surgery date although

I

> have been approved for the surgery and have all my pre-testing

> completed.

>

> In order to schedule my surgery date, I have to lose 10% of my

body

> weight. The surgeon's office will not even schedule until I'm

> within 10 pounds of my goal weight and then I MUST lose that ten

> pounds by the day of surgery.

>

> In addition to this, I had to quit smoking. My quit smoking date

> was October 18th, 2005. For this, I am very proud of myself, and

> feel much better just from quitting smoking alone.

>

> Having said that, it has been ten times harder for me to lose the

> required 10% weight. In fact, when they weighed me in the

surgeon's

> office my weight was 294. They set my required weight at 265.

> Since I left the office that day, I have actually gained weight!

> So, now I need to lose the extra weight I've gained in addition to

> the required weight. I'm frustrated. I've been on Weight

Watchers

> for 2 weeks now, solemenly sticking to it, and if you can believe

> this, I have gained TWO pounds! I'm at my wit's end!! I broke

down

> today. I just want to get to the point that I am able to have the

> surgery. I don't know what's happening. It's almost like

quitting

> smoking slowed my metabolism so much that I can't lose weight even

> on a 1200 calorie diet.

>

> I'm not really looking for any advice. Maybe just some support.

> I'm fed up with myself and with my weight. I just want to lose

the

> weight I need to lose in order to get to my surgery date.

>

> Please keep me in your prayers. I'm 32 years young, and have so

> much to look forward to once my body is transformed into an

active,

> healthy, fit vehicle.

>

> Thank you for having this support group. I watch your messages

> every day and find things that constantly apply to me.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> We are a very active support group.

> If the email becomes overwhelming,

> please change your setting to NO EMAIL!

> Please contact Group Creator

> Robyn@...

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi !!

It looks like you have gotten a lot of advice. I just wanted to pop

in and say welcome to the group!!!! :) Please come and tells how you

are doing and vent when needed!!! We are here for you!!

Hugs!!!

>

> Hello everyone. I love your support group, I read it every day. I

> am pre-surgery. As of yet, I do not have a surgery date although I

> have been approved for the surgery and have all my pre-testing

> completed.

>

> In order to schedule my surgery date, I have to lose 10% of my body

> weight. The surgeon's office will not even schedule until I'm

> within 10 pounds of my goal weight and then I MUST lose that ten

> pounds by the day of surgery.

>

> In addition to this, I had to quit smoking. My quit smoking date

> was October 18th, 2005. For this, I am very proud of myself, and

> feel much better just from quitting smoking alone.

>

> Having said that, it has been ten times harder for me to lose the

> required 10% weight. In fact, when they weighed me in the

surgeon's

> office my weight was 294. They set my required weight at 265.

> Since I left the office that day, I have actually gained weight!

> So, now I need to lose the extra weight I've gained in addition to

> the required weight. I'm frustrated. I've been on Weight Watchers

> for 2 weeks now, solemenly sticking to it, and if you can believe

> this, I have gained TWO pounds! I'm at my wit's end!! I broke

down

> today. I just want to get to the point that I am able to have the

> surgery. I don't know what's happening. It's almost like quitting

> smoking slowed my metabolism so much that I can't lose weight even

> on a 1200 calorie diet.

>

> I'm not really looking for any advice. Maybe just some support.

> I'm fed up with myself and with my weight. I just want to lose the

> weight I need to lose in order to get to my surgery date.

>

> Please keep me in your prayers. I'm 32 years young, and have so

> much to look forward to once my body is transformed into an active,

> healthy, fit vehicle.

>

> Thank you for having this support group. I watch your messages

> every day and find things that constantly apply to me.

>

>

>

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