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Don, we have both at our hospital and the therapist can pick whatever hours that

they want to work. For some people this works really well and others stick with

the 5 days a week. it is one of the perks that we can offer PT so that they can

have more of a flexible work schedule. I think that this was an easy transistion

to make and everybody likes the flexible hours. thanks

Jeff Nolder, Director of rehab

Cherokee Regional Medical Center

To: PTManager@...: don.walsh@...: Mon, 17 Mar 2008

14:40:17 +0000Subject: Four 10 hour days

Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating the option of salaried PT

staff going to four 10 hour days as opposed to our current 5 day/week schedule.

Like everything else, there are probably pros and cons. Would anyone care to

share their experiences?Thanks, Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCSNortheast Georgia Medical

CenterGainesville, GA 30501

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We have been very flexible with our staff in order to accommodate the

needs of the patients that need appointments before and after work. We

have several staff members that work ten hour days and remain very

productive. They choose to work two tens and three shorter days rather

than taking a day off. In the past we have had staff that take a day

off, and this has worked well also.

Meg Madden PT

Supervisor Outpatient Rehabilitation Services

Caritas St. 's Medical Center

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Subject: Four 10 hour days

Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating the option of

salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as opposed to our current

5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are probably pros and

cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

Thanks,

Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

Northeast Georgia Medical Center

Gainesville, GA 30501

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Don,

Our situation is a little different in that tour PTs are paid hourly. But,

I have PTs who work 8 hour shifts and those who work 10 hour shifts. For

us, both work well. When someone works a 10 hour shift, they are still

given an unpaid lunch and 2 paid breaks. So over the course of a week we

are only paying for 8 breaks (as opposed to 10 for those who work an 8

hour shift.) Maybe this is a little better for productivity measures??

I would think it would also depend on your coverage needs. If a longer

shift is beneficial to the times patients need to be seen that may work

for you. Or, it might be more helpful to have full coverage every day of

the week.

Just my thoughts.

Suzanne LeBlanc, PT, MPT

Director, Rehabilitation Services

Willamette Falls Hospital

Oregon City, OR

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Four 10 hour days

Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating the option of

salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as opposed to our current

5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are probably pros and

cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

Thanks,

Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

Northeast Georgia Medical Center

Gainesville, GA 30501

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Don,

We have really tried to accommodate these requests over the last few years. We

have only mandated that a Monday or a Friday not be the day off, and that each

of our Hospital based clinics maintain 7-5:30 hours with at least 2 employees on

duty during all open hours. We found that if we didn't allow Mon/Fri as the off

day then everyone didn't request this.

Over the years we have allowed 4-10s as well as 5-8s (7-3:30, 8-4:30, and

9-5:30). It has allowed employees to take their kids to day care, coach a

soccer season, go hunting in the mornings during the fall, or any number of

other reasons. It has really increased our staff moral, hasn't negatively

affected productivity, and has given each clinic an added responsibility that I

believe they have risen up to meet.

Jeff Brown PT

Director of Rehabilitation

Decatur Memorial Hospital

Decatur, Illinois

>>> " dwcycle " 03/17/08 9:40 AM >>>

Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating the option of

salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as opposed to our current

5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are probably pros and

cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

Thanks,

Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

Northeast Georgia Medical Center

Gainesville, GA 30501

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>

> Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating the option of

> salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as opposed to our

current

> 5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are probably pros

and

> cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

> Thanks,

> Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

> Northeast Georgia Medical Center

> Gainesville, GA 30501

>

Don, I prefer a 4x10 as long as it creates a 3 day weekend.

PT

San Diego

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We allow five '8s', four '10s' and also have staff that do four '9s'

[our hospital considers 72 hours or 80 hours as full-time for benefit

purposes]. Like others have reported, as long as we can meet the

patient needs, we find that working with our staff to meet their

changing requests is a great retention strategy.

A con for the four '10s' is that our OPT therapists float into the

hospital to cover weekends, and take time off during the preceeding or

following week. This can make scheduling their patients more

challenging, and sometimes creates problems with consistency PT-wise.

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I have dabbled with Mon - Thurs 4 - 10 hours days

because Friday has the highest cancel rate. The only

drawback I have experienced is some of my surgeon

referral sources want a patient in the next day and

often do surgeries on Thursdays. Four - nine hour days

and a half day seems to be a better option.

Bisesi MPT COMT

Winter Haven, Fl

--- dwcycle wrote:

> Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating

> the option of

> salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as

> opposed to our current

> 5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are

> probably pros and

> cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

> Thanks,

> Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

> Northeast Georgia Medical Center

> Gainesville, GA 30501

>

>

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Our clinic has three therapists that work 4/10 hour days, two work Mon, Tue,

Wed, Fri and one works Mon, Wed, Thurs, Fri. This has worked very well for us.

We also have two therapists that work Mon-Thurs, one works 8 hours and the other

works 9 hours per day.

Laurie

Elite Sports Medicine & Physical Therapy

Kansas City, MO

keith bisesi wrote:

I have dabbled with Mon - Thurs 4 - 10 hours days

because Friday has the highest cancel rate. The only

drawback I have experienced is some of my surgeon

referral sources want a patient in the next day and

often do surgeries on Thursdays. Four - nine hour days

and a half day seems to be a better option.

Bisesi MPT COMT

Winter Haven, Fl

--- dwcycle wrote:

> Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating

> the option of

> salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as

> opposed to our current

> 5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are

> probably pros and

> cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

> Thanks,

> Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

> Northeast Georgia Medical Center

> Gainesville, GA 30501

>

>

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What about staggering your staff schedules and having some therapists work

Mon-Thurs and others work Tues-Fri? That way you still have staff coverage 5

days/week. We do this and it works great.

Jill Piazza, PT, MSPT

Florida Hospital DeLand

---- keith bisesi wrote:

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I have dabbled with Mon - Thurs 4 - 10 hours days

because Friday has the highest cancel rate. The only

drawback I have experienced is some of my surgeon

referral sources want a patient in the next day and

often do surgeries on Thursdays. Four - nine hour days

and a half day seems to be a better option.

Bisesi MPT COMT

Winter Haven, Fl

--- dwcycle wrote:

> Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating

> the option of

> salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as

> opposed to our current

> 5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are

> probably pros and

> cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

> Thanks,

> Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

> Northeast Georgia Medical Center

> Gainesville, GA 30501

>

>

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We stagger our schedules as described by Jill. It eliminated any

resentment towards those who were getting a 3 day weekend.

PT

San Diego

>

> > Our hospital based outpatient practice is evaluating

> > the option of

> > salaried PT staff going to four 10 hour days as

> > opposed to our current

> > 5 day/week schedule. Like everything else, there are

> > probably pros and

> > cons. Would anyone care to share their experiences?

> > Thanks,

> > Don Walsh,PT, MS, OCS

> > Northeast Georgia Medical Center

> > Gainesville, GA 30501

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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