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October 6, 2003

That is a very good question--we had all but about 5 active members and 5

subs resign the service--so I'm intrested to see what everyone posts about this

one.

dg

In a message dated 10/6/03 1:58:54 PM Central Daylight Time,

turnbow32@... writes:

Hey gang this is fir Mr.Gandy and anyone who has an answer for my

question.

Q. What,if anything, can be done to employyes of a EMS that is not a

union service that walk out. The hospital has a contract with the

city and county. Hypothetically the entire crew except for 2 hold

outs walk out at the monthly crew meeting. Is there legal

ramification's.

October 6, 2003

Sounds to me like they all just quit their jobs without notice.

Maxine Pate

Question

> Hey gang this is fir Mr.Gandy and anyone who has an answer for my

> question.

> Q. What,if anything, can be done to employyes of a EMS that is not a

> union service that walk out. The hospital has a contract with the

> city and county. Hypothetically the entire crew except for 2 hold

> outs walk out at the monthly crew meeting. Is there legal

> ramification's.

>

October 6, 2003

Please remember that not all EMS is municipal or county operated. Different

rules apply for civil service fire departments, city charter fire

departments, and so forth.

Lots of EMS is operated by private companies under contract to cities and

counties. This does NOT make them public servants. They neither have to follow

civil service rules nor are they protected by them.

If you are working under a union contract, all sorts of special rules apply,

but you won't find much that will protect you from firing if you pull a

" wildcat strike. "

Gene

October 6, 2003

The one thing that I have not seen on this subject, I might have missed it

mind you,was the reason why?

I do agree that there comes a time that employees (sp?) of a company do need

to stand up and make a stand. Some a very loud and noisy stand is what it

takes to be heard. I have been in EMS a number of years and I have seen my

share of the 'dark side' I just hope that the medics who walked out did have

just cause and that the issues will be taken care of in a possitive manner

October 6, 2003

I would imagine that the " on duty " crews would work until the end of their

shifts, then as they became " too fatigued " to continue working safely, they

would join the walk out. This would save for an abandonment / duty to act

issues.

A walk out or work stoppage strike is a very powerful tool, but it should be

reserved for the most extreme cases. And, I would never cross the picket

line, myself.

Schadone, NREMT-Paramedic

City of Austin

Austin/ County EMS

Medic 12 / Medic 24

@...

April 2, 2005

What country are you? sorry dumb question i am

sure.

I dont know the rates eather. I charge 6 dollars

for one child, 8 for 2 children, 10 for 3

children and 12 for 4 children. I dont do more

then 4 though.

Chantelle

Overheard in the office of the food and drug administration: If laughter is the

best medicin, shouldnt we be regulating it?

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April 2, 2005

It is against the ADA to charge more for children with special needs.

You will need to have one rate for all children. However, if you can

work as a respite worker thru a state program, you may be able to get a

higher rate depending on the level of care a child needs.

Michele W

Aubrie's mom 7 yrs in IL

1304@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I know i have asked this before but i can't remember what was

> said. I

> want to start baby-sitting in my home on nights and weekends. I was just

> wondering what your children' s baby-sitters charge now to watch

> special needs

> children and do your baby-sitters charge more for special needs

> children then

> typical children. I do not mean to offend anyone with this question, i

> am just

> trying to do my research before i put up ads. Thanks.

>

April 2, 2005

How can the ada regulate baby sitters? They can

charge whatever they want cant they? I think

though regulated day cars cant charge more, but

baby sitters i dont think are regulated. They are

more work though. Depends on the special needs

though.

Chantelle

--- Michele Westmaas

wrote:

>

> It is against the ADA to charge more for

> children with special needs.

> You will need to have one rate for all

> children. However, if you can

> work as a respite worker thru a state program,

> you may be able to get a

> higher rate depending on the level of care a

> child needs.

>

> Michele W

> Aubrie's mom 7 yrs in IL

>

> 1304@... wrote:

>

> > Hi everyone,

> > I know i have asked this before but i

> can't remember what was

> > said. I

> > want to start baby-sitting in my home on

> nights and weekends. I was just

> > wondering what your children' s baby-sitters

> charge now to watch

> > special needs

> > children and do your baby-sitters charge more

> for special needs

> > children then

> > typical children. I do not mean to offend

> anyone with this question, i

> > am just

> > trying to do my research before i put up ads.

> Thanks.

> >

>

April 2, 2005

For the info : Our respite,Funded by the state pays 8.00 hr. We choose to pay

4.00 more for our other child not involved.Our respite is 24, knows some sign

and is getting her degree in Spec. Ed.We really feel lucky.Respite has been a

godsend.I suggest parents looking for it however I wasnt always open to it.I

reached a point.....

Diane L.

April 2, 2005

I to charged a different rate for single parentst

on a fixed income. When my friend was in school i

think she gave me 5 dollars an hour, but in the

summer when she was working i think she gave me

6.50 cause i was always doing extra stuff with

her daughter like we would go to the mall, or to

the park or even to some activity somewhere

around town. I told her my minimum was 5 dollars

an hour, but sometimes she would give me soups or

something she cooked.

For regular earners i guess i could have charged

more. I baby sat this 2 kids in a afluent

neihbourhood and they almost didnt want to pay

even after i said 8 dollars for the two kids. I

think many ppl in that area charged more even.

Chantelle

Overheard in the office of the food and drug administration: If laughter is the

best medicin, shouldnt we be regulating it?

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April 2, 2005

I have hired college students to watch my kids. They charge $10 an hour.

Families could not afford that on a daily basis.

The state has a scale they use to determine how much respite providers are

paid based on the care level of the child. When Dylan was young and

medically involved, (g-tube feeds, seizure-like activity) his rate was only

4.50, but once he was more autistic-like the rate went up to $8.50 mainly

because he will walk off if given the opportunity.

Kim L

>

> I to charged a different rate for single parentst

> on a fixed income. When my friend was in school i

> think she gave me 5 dollars an hour, but in the

> summer when she was working i think she gave me

> 6.50 cause i was always doing extra stuff with

> her daughter like we would go to the mall, or to

> the park or even to some activity somewhere

> around town. I told her my minimum was 5 dollars

> an hour, but sometimes she would give me soups or

> something she cooked.

>

> For regular earners i guess i could have charged

> more. I baby sat this 2 kids in a afluent

> neihbourhood and they almost didnt want to pay

> even after i said 8 dollars for the two kids. I

> think many ppl in that area charged more even.

>

> Chantelle

>

> Overheard in the office of the food and drug administration: If laughter is

> the best medicin, shouldnt we be regulating it?

>

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April 2, 2005

Hey i just want to point out this topic is

getting off what the original question was. This

girl wants to know how much she should charge for

baby sitting.

Chantelle

Overheard in the office of the food and drug administration: If laughter is the

best medicin, shouldnt we be regulating it?

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April 4, 2005

The ADA in the US applies to any business. Yes, sitters can charge

anything they want. But they can't charge more for a child with special

needs than they would another child. It may be hard to prove, but if

someone posted their rates in an ad or on a flyer with a higher rate for

children with special needs, it would be a blatant violation. It would

be like categorizing any other minority group and charge more simply

because of their label.

Michele W

Chantelle McLaren wrote:

> How can the ada regulate baby sitters? They can

> charge whatever they want cant they? I think

> though regulated day cars cant charge more, but

> baby sitters i dont think are regulated. They are

> more work though. Depends on the special needs

> though.

>

> Chantelle

April 4, 2005

Yes-- I would think that a case could not be made against that sitter

because she charges every family individually. The problem is when a

particular group is discriminated against with higher rates. And yes,

the state does pay based on the child's needs when they pay for respite,

nurses, etc, but that's a different deal. That's not discrimination.

That's giving a benefit to the family of the child by allowing them to

hire qualified help. A family can agree to pay more, but a licensed

provider cannot make a higher fee schedule simply based on special

needs, race, ethnicity, gender, etc.

Michele W

Locke wrote:

> That is interesting that ADA regulates this as prior

> to Kiara's adoption, my sitter was paid on an " 005 "

> for licensed home daycare from the State. The rate

> paid for Kiara was much higher than the rate being

> paid for her sister who was also living with us and as

> I stated this was paid by the State. Kiara's " 005 "

> stated specialized care. The rate the State paid was

> the rate we continued after the adoption but adjust

> accordingly each year as that was 3 years ago. I do

> know that my sitter charges different rates for

> different families but it is not just because of the

> needs of the child, it is rated based on the needs of

> the family. She does have a few single parents working

> minimum wage and obviously they can't pay the rate of

> a two income family. This could cause arguement for

> some but I personally think that looking at the whole

> family not just a flat rate for everyone is a

> blessing.

>

April 4, 2005

Yes, in IL we have regional Child Care Resource and Referral Agencies

who will help new providers by giving them info on the going rate in

their area. I would think all states have a similar agency.

Michele w

>

June 8, 2005

We have allowed our daughter to be taken by her 1:1

assistant and her speech therapist has taken her out

into the community off school time. I as the parent

never ask them to take her but when they contact me to

make special plans with her I thinks its great.

mom to Kiara (13)

--- 1304@... wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

> Just out of curiosity, Would you allow your

> childrens one-to-one paras

> or their teachers take them out on weekends to go to

> the movies or park or

> something else fun? As most of you know i am a

> one-to-one aide for a 17 year old

> with down syndrome. I have worked with him for 5

> years. To make a long story

> short, The last couple of years my students has had

> some behavior problems

> such as shutting down when he is supposed to be

> doing work. Last summer he had

> an excellent summer and as i tell him he did not get

> 1 bad report sent home,

> so i took him after school to go to the boardwalk to

> go on the rides as a

> reward for an excellent summer so he could see how

> proud i was. No one had a

> problem with this. This year i work with a new

> teacher who is very old

> fashioned and everytime the other aide (she has

> worked with this student for 10

> years) and i take him out for excellent behavior the

> teacher makes a face and asks

> us why we spend our money on that. Since we have

> been doing this my students

> behavior has been excellent and not 1 bad report has

> been sent home. We are

> all so proud of him except for the new teacher who

> does not beilieve me on

> how bad the behaviors used to be. It is not like we

> take him out every weekend,

> it is about every 5 or 6 months. This year we took

> him to see a play that

> his old teacher was in and to the movies twice. If

> he does well in summer

> school we will take him to the boardwalk again at

> the end of the summer. Even his

> case manager agrees this is an excellent reward

> system for him and we are

> doing nothing wrong, his parents tell me i can take

> him whenever i want, and my

> student looks foward to it and it gives him

> something to work for. As parents

> of children with special needs do you think i am

> doing something wrong or is

> the teacher just not understanding the situation.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Lucille

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

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June 8, 2005

i wnat to agre with all of you i believe the same thing ive had a teacher

when i used to live in my old house she was round the corner still have her

but when we lived closer shed pop in to say hi and one teacher when i was in

primary school i still ring her up and she used to take me home when i was

sick and nurses that have come to look after me when mum and dad have gone

out its these people i believe that makes parents able to cdo more stuff for

them selves and not be there all the time ellen

>

> sometimes parents might feel uncomfortable about spending money i donno,

> but

> i dont think its any of the teachers business..

>

> nothing wrong with spending a little bit of money on peo[ple if it makes

> you

> and them happy,

> Re: question

>

> > We have allowed our daughter to be taken by her 1:1

> > assistant and her speech therapist has taken her out

> > into the community off school time. I as the parent

> > never ask them to take her but when they contact me to

> > make special plans with her I thinks its great.

> >

> > mom to Kiara (13)

> >

> > --- 1304@... wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone,

> > > Just out of curiosity, Would you allow your

> > > childrens one-to-one paras

> > > or their teachers take them out on weekends to go to

> > > the movies or park or

> > > something else fun? As most of you know i am a

> > > one-to-one aide for a 17 year old

> > > with down syndrome. I have worked with him for 5

> > > years. To make a long story

> > > short, The last couple of years my students has had

> > > some behavior problems

> > > such as shutting down when he is supposed to be

> > > doing work. Last summer he had

> > > an excellent summer and as i tell him he did not get

> > > 1 bad report sent home,

> > > so i took him after school to go to the boardwalk to

> > > go on the rides as a

> > > reward for an excellent summer so he could see how

> > > proud i was. No one had a

> > > problem with this. This year i work with a new

> > > teacher who is very old

> > > fashioned and everytime the other aide (she has

> > > worked with this student for 10

> > > years) and i take him out for excellent behavior the

> > > teacher makes a face and asks

> > > us why we spend our money on that. Since we have

> > > been doing this my students

> > > behavior has been excellent and not 1 bad report has

> > > been sent home. We are

> > > all so proud of him except for the new teacher who

> > > does not beilieve me on

> > > how bad the behaviors used to be. It is not like we

> > > take him out every weekend,

> > > it is about every 5 or 6 months. This year we took

> > > him to see a play that

> > > his old teacher was in and to the movies twice. If

> > > he does well in summer

> > > school we will take him to the boardwalk again at

> > > the end of the summer. Even his

> > > case manager agrees this is an excellent reward

> > > system for him and we are

> > > doing nothing wrong, his parents tell me i can take

> > > him whenever i want, and my

> > > student looks foward to it and it gives him

> > > something to work for. As parents

> > > of children with special needs do you think i am

> > > doing something wrong or is

> > > the teacher just not understanding the situation.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Lucille

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> >

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June 8, 2005

Ellen-

Yes, those people are such a comfort and support to parents. The old

saying " It's takes a village to raise a child " is even more true for you

guys. We parents really need a " team " helping us out. I have been so

overwhelmed this summer already. It's an indescribable comfort to me

that her aide is willing to work on math and spelling with her, that her

speech therapist is so dedicated and helpful, etc. If I felt like I was

the only one who was dedicated to this child, I would feel so exhausted

and alone. A little bit of support goes a long way to easing those

feelings. Besides being a relief to parents, it's invaluable for kids

to have a world that is bigger than just their parents.

Michele W

ellen howe wrote:

> i wnat to agre with all of you i believe the same thing ive had a teacher

> when i used to live in my old house she was round the corner still

> have her

> but when we lived closer shed pop in to say hi and one teacher when i

> was in

> primary school i still ring her up and she used to take me home when i

> was

> sick and nurses that have come to look after me when mum and dad have

> gone

> out its these people i believe that makes parents able to cdo more

> stuff for

> them selves and not be there all the time ellen

>

March 7, 2006

Hi Marilynn,

I have NEVER heard of a surgeon removing someone's remaining

stomach. Looking forward to seeing the members responses.

Robyn

>

> I had open RNY. WHen I had my surgery the doctor took my gull

bladder and

> apendix. He also formed me a new pouch and took out my old

stomach. Has

> any one else had their old stomach taken out?

> Namaste,

> Marilynn

>

March 7, 2006

apperantly it is a newer procedure. That has been done in the past 10 or so

years. There are a handful of surgeons world wide that are now doing it.

>

> Hi Marilynn,

>

> I have NEVER heard of a surgeon removing someone's remaining

> stomach. Looking forward to seeing the members responses.

>

> Robyn

>

> >

> > I had open RNY. WHen I had my surgery the doctor took my gull

> bladder and

> > apendix. He also formed me a new pouch and took out my old

> stomach. Has

> > any one else had their old stomach taken out?

> > Namaste,

> > Marilynn

> >

March 9, 2006

I had a revision in 2004. I had a leakage between my pouch and original

stomach. Because the leak went un-noticed the doctor said it was in bad shape

and severed it from my pouch. I failed to ask him if he actually took it out or

if it's floating around somewhere. I guess I assumed that since it was severed,

it was removed.

Wild Child wrote: I had open RNY. WHen I had my surgery

the doctor took my gull bladder and

apendix. He also formed me a new pouch and took out my old stomach. Has

any one else had their old stomach taken out?

Namaste,

Marilynn

March 9, 2006

I had lap rny 3/3/06..Is it normal to have a tightening feeling on my

left side where the drain was down to my belly button?..I called the

nurse and all she would say was thatI knew my body and what kind of

pain was normal for me..I wanted to reach through the phone and grab

her...lol...My husband keeps saying that it hasn't even been a week

and expect that...Other than that I feel great I have been walking,

well I still am sleeping in the recliner...I start my full liquids

Saturday..WOOHOO...Any advice on this would be great...I mean no fever

no redness and no drainage..So I don't know if it is normal or not.

March 10, 2006

,

I am 3 weeks out and I had the same feelings. I could best describe them as

contractions. They passed for the most part by the second weeks. The first

few days they would be so bad that I would have to call to someone in the

house to come help me walk back to the chair.

Lorie from Indiana

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