Guest guest Posted January 1, 2001 Report Share Posted January 1, 2001 Hi All, Remember the big controversy around that " letter " from C. Stimmel and his views on the role of hydrocortisone/adrenal/autoimmunie disorders and RSS? I took the liberty to ask the moderator of another listserve to which I belong (HGF-Peds) to take a close look at the lengthy letter and analyze it from an objective, research-oriented and analytical view. For those of you familiar with the listserve, you know that if nothing else, Earl is a research fanatic and is really good at sniffing out papers and journal articles related to Growth hormone topics. Anyway, here is his view on the whole issue. It is a long email, but I hope worth reading to those of you still interested in getting some other opinions on this topic. The beginning of his email paraphrases the basic arguments that C. Stimmel sets forth. Make sure you read on past this section! The end of the email summarizes Earl's belief that these arguments, as listed in the letter, do not necessarily hold up to any rigorous analysis. Rightfully so, Earl chose not to comment on any of the personal or mean-spirited comments made towards individuals. He only looked at the medical/scientific validity of the points stated in the letter. As always, remember that this is just a layperson's view and that we should always check with our docs on new theories that come across the internet. And, Happy New Year to everyone! Katy Earl's Response Begins Here: -------------------------------------------------------------- 12/31/00 Katy, The following is in response to your request of December 16, 2000, for my views on Chandler Stimmel's presentation of his views on the treatment of RSS with hydrocortisone and, related matters, set forth in his correspondence of December 7, 2000. Chandler states that his research shows the following: The basis for RSS resides in polyglandular autoimmune diseases and disorders that affect the thyroid and adrenal glands: adrenal insufficiency, thyroid disease, insulin-dependent diabetes mellitus, gonadal failure, diabetes insipidus, virtiligo, alopecia, pernicious enema, myasthenia gravis, immune thrombocytopenia purpura, Sjogren's syndrome, and rheumatoid arthritis. Those autoimmune diseases and disorders are either the cause of or are contributory to RSS, or are an indication that some other kind of autoimmune disease or disorder may be the cause of or contributory to many of the symptoms seen in RSS children: hypothyroidism, sub-clinical hypoadrenalism, 's disease, short stature, hypothyroidism, ectodermal dysplasia, allergies, chronic fatigue syndrome, hypoglycemia, caloric deprivation from poor appetite, and low blood pressure. Physicians fail to diagnose properly hypothyroidism and sub-clinical hypoadrenalism because the thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) and the adrenocorticotropin hormone (ACTH) normal values are not representative of the population (i.e., they are based on a fatally skewed population that understates the underlying thyroid and adrenal deficiencies). Also, physicians are not trained adequately in the clinical symptoms of hypothyroidism and hypoadrenalism. Based on the erroneous acceptance of normal TSH levels that are, in fact, too high (i.e, indicates thyroxin is too low), and normal ACTH levels that are, in fact, too low (indicates that cortisol is sufficiently high); and, on the failure of physicians to recognize the clinical symptoms of hypothyroidism and hypoadrenalism, physicians fail to treat patients with those disorders with safe, physiological levels of cortisone, which could reduce or eliminate many of the problems underlying the symptoms of RSS children. " GH is not the optimal approach for RSS children because 'hypoglycemia in children with cortisol or GH deficiency or both is generally preceded caloric deprivation that is largely corrected by glucocorticoid (cortisol therapy). . . '. " He also states that growth hormone masks, rather than addresses, those hormonal deficiencies. (Citations omitted). Chandler relies on a survey he conducted of RSS parents (57 of 310 responded) that shows significantly higher thyroid disorders, 's disease, diabetes, Lupus, scleroderma, and Crohn's disease in RSS children relative to the general population. There is not enough information presented about the survey protocol, methodology, or execution to show which, if any of the responders, reported children who had autoimmune diseases and those who didn't because there are many causes of those diseases and disorders other than autoimmune defects. For the same reasons, there is no basis to establish that the responders constituted a representative sample of the queried parents of the RSS children from which it would be possible to project the results of the survey to the population of all RSS children. That the RSS children would have significantly higher endocrine, autoimmune, or other diseases or disorders in relation to the general population would not be surprising because RSS children are a subset of children born intrauterine growth retardation, which can be accompanied by or be a part of other disorders and diseases including those of genetic origin. Although thyroxin deficiency can cause or contribute to attention deficit disorder, it is only one of a number of possible causes of attention deficit disorder that occur in children, including those with RSS. To the extent that a cortisol deficiency is responsible for failing to counteract hypoglycemia, Chandler is correct that " GH is not the optimal approach for RSS children because 'hypoglycemia in children with cortisol or GH deficiency or both is generally preceded caloric deprivation . . . .that is largely corrected by glucocorticoid replacement [cortisol] therapy) whereas human growth hormone has little effect. . . . " Textbook of Endocrinology, 9th Ed. (W.B. Saunders, Philadelphia: 1998) at p. 957. Howeer, the prinicipal hormone that counteracts hypoglycemia is glucogen, followed by epinephrine, GH, and cortisol. The levels of those " counterregulatory " hormones normally rise in response to hypoglycemia. In persons who are deficient in the counterregulatory hormones, appropriate replacement therapy is given as indicated. But, there is no basis to treat with cortisol therapy in the absence of a deficiency in cortisol. Chandler also relies collectively on the following physicians for his views: Drs. Robban Sica, Ridha Arem, A. P. Weetman, ph , Mussey, Hauser, and Jefferies, According to Chandler, those physicians are knowledgeable in the areas of adrenal, thyroid disorders, and autoimmune diseases involving the thyroid and adrenal glands. A cursory review of Medline abstracts under " growth hormone " (subject field) and their respective names (title field) revealed no reports by any of those physicians of investigations or studies involving the association of thyroid or adrenal disorders or auto immune diseases with any disorder of growth including GHD in RSS children. Thus, it appears that Chandler supports his positions by selecting and linking certain overlapping symptoms of various adrenal, thyroid, and growth hormone disorders and autoimmune diseases related to those hormones without any significant evidence to demonstrate a causal relationship that is unique to any specific disorder of growth, including GHD in RSS children. It is well documented that thyroid and adrenal hormones, among others, can have substantial adverse impacts on the secretion, uptake, and utilization of growth hormone whether in idiopathic GHD or non-GHD children, including those with RSS. It is also recognized that Likewise, there is no question that hypopituitarism and polyglandular syndromes can involve the interactions of thyroid, adrenal, and growth hormones in ways that cause differences in their respective blood levels based on many different variables. It is also known that cortisol insufficiency can contribute to hypoglycemia. A cursory review of Medline abstracts shows that today's competent and experienced pediatric endocrinologists are well aware of (i) those variables and their impact; (ii) the specific tests that can differentially diagnose the various endocrine disorders and diseases including autoimmune diseases; (iii) the clinical presentation of those disorders and diseases; and (iv) the available treatment modalities and their administration for those disorders and diseases. It is therefore, unlikely that a child with sub-clinical hypoadrenalism or hypothyroidism would go undiagnosed and untreated, regardless of any other diagnosis such as GHD in RSS children. Thus, there is no material issue of whether rGH masks or doesn't address any underlying adrenal or thyroid disorder. Further, autoimmune diseases of the pituitary, thyroid, adrenal or other glands ultimately result in the destruction of those glands, and the administration of available replacement therapies or other treatment modalities. Chandler states that the investigative reports of Drs. S. Cassidy, J. Hall, and T. Limbird in the areas of hypopituitarism, slipped capital femoral epiphysis, hypothyroidism, hypoglycemia, and growth hormone deficiency, as those disorders relate to RSS children, show a lack of recognition of the role and significance of adrenal hormones as a cause or contributing factor to those disorders. It was obviously not within the scope of the studies giving rise to those reports to focus on the adrenal hormones, which are not central to the diagnosis or to the treatment of RSS, but are discussed in reports of studies involving intrauterine growth retardation, of which RSS is a subset. In conclusion, I find no basis in the medical literature or in Chandler's presentation to show that RSS is grounded in polyglandular autoimmune disease. Although its etiology is not fully known, the medical literature shows that RSS is associated with several different genetic defects; that rGH therapy can be beneficial in final height outcome, that bone age is not a reliable parameter to predict final height in RSS children, and that the absence of " catch down " growth in non-GHD RSS children shows that short-term rGH therapy may be efficacious (i.e., meaning that such a child can grow at a normal rate with short-term treatment). Earl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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