Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Hi, I know this topic has been talked about a lot, and I reread alot of the posts to help. However, this post may be more to help me reassure my mother that I am doing better on scd than not. Last year I started a post pregnancy weight loss program with my family members. No scd diet. up and down with eating crappy food, not good eating- but lost weight 156 to 149- back to prepregnancy weight. . We decided to continue a family weight loss program this year, but Ialso started scd 5 months ago, following the diet- not counting calories or not worring about limiting food- only trying to heal, went from 149-126. I am 38 female, 5' 6 inches, medium frame. I was off and on pred. for 4 years, and have been off of it for 5 weeks finally. I am having days of alot of bms, little blood and mucus. But still feeling better than I ever have. My mother calls tonight and tells me how worried she is about my weight loss and my starting to have more diareah. (Which drives me nuts, because she has never called to tell me how worried she was when I was crapping my pants, or couldn't get off the toilet from going 20 times a day) But somehow she is thinking that if I continue this scd diet, I will continue to lose weight and my organs will shut down, and I will die. Mostly, I think she is worried that if I get a really bad flare I will lose more weight and have trouble gaining and end up in the hospital. Then she made me worry. ugh. Is it true that many tend to lose weight the first year, but then gradually gain it back. Should I be worried about my continuing weight lose? My body will tell me when I am hungry won't it? I never really get that crazy hunger feeling anymore! I really like the weight I am at and feel healthy. Many have given food ideas, like avacados, mayo, and butter, egg with nut butter and vegtables, and yogurt made with cream. I reassured my mother by saying that I will add more of these foods, and that I have a dr. appointment in june, and ask her for tests make sure I am getting good nutrition, and am not whithering away. ugh....You would have think she would have been more worried when I was continuously sick in college, and eating at mcdonalds EVERY day! sample day: breakfast. I did skip because I was going and going. ( 6 times) 10:00 Big glass of hot mint tea to soothe tummy 1130. chicken, zucchini, spinich, procuitoo, 2 eggs, cheese omlet 1230 more mint tea, cantalope peices ( not good with D. but banana's were not ripe) 1:00 took a nap with children, tired because of morning D. 430 leftover lunch chicken, 1/2 avacado, 1 slice of bacon-no sugar, cheddar cheese. few peices of cantalope 700 almond flour muffin with blueberries, and dried currants, ( not good with D. but no snacks!) 2 cups of coffee To me this looks like alot of food. I will take suggestions and reminders. or more stories on your own personal weight losses and gains. Thanks for listing to my half worried state, and half venting state. Sandy scd 5 months uc since 2004 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Sandy, Plug your diet foods into fitday.com and it will compute your calories and nutrients you're receiving from them. Then determine how many calories you need to maintain the weight you desire. Ron sandra hansen wrote: Hi, I know this topic has been talked about a lot, and I reread alot of the posts to help. However, this post may be more to help me reassure my mother that I am doing better on scd than not. Last year I started a post pregnancy weight loss program with my family members. No scd diet. up and down with eating crappy food, not good eating- but lost weight 156 to 149- back to prepregnancy weight. .. We decided to continue a family weight loss program this year, but Ialso started scd 5 months ago, following the diet- not counting calories or not worring about limiting food- only trying to heal, went from 149-126. I am 38 female, 5' 6 inches, medium frame. I was off and on pred. for 4 years, and have been off of it for 5 weeks finally. I am having days of alot of bms, little blood and mucus. But still feeling better than I ever have. My mother calls tonight and tells me how worried she is about my weight loss and my starting to have more diareah. (Which drives me nuts, because she has never called to tell me how worried she was when I was crapping my pants, or couldn't get off the toilet from going 20 times a day) But somehow she is thinking that if I continue this scd diet, I will continue to lose weight and my organs will shut down, and I will die. Mostly, I think she is worried that if I get a really bad flare I will lose more weight and have trouble gaining and end up in the hospital. Then she made me worry. ugh. Is it true that many tend to lose weight the first year, but then gradually gain it back. Should I be worried about my continuing weight lose? My body will tell me when I am hungry won't it? I never really get that crazy hunger feeling anymore! I really like the weight I am at and feel healthy. Many have given food ideas, like avacados, mayo, and butter, egg with nut butter and vegtables, and yogurt made with cream. I reassured my mother by saying that I will add more of these foods, and that I have a dr. appointment in june, and ask her for tests make sure I am getting good nutrition, and am not whithering away. ugh....You would have think she would have been more worried when I was continuously sick in college, and eating at mcdonalds EVERY day! sample day: breakfast. I did skip because I was going and going. ( 6 times) 10:00 Big glass of hot mint tea to soothe tummy 1130. chicken, zucchini, spinich, procuitoo, 2 eggs, cheese omlet 1230 more mint tea, cantalope peices ( not good with D. but banana's were not ripe) 1:00 took a nap with children, tired because of morning D. 430 leftover lunch chicken, 1/2 avacado, 1 slice of bacon-no sugar, cheddar cheese. few peices of cantalope 700 almond flour muffin with blueberries, and dried currants, ( not good with D. but no snacks!) 2 cups of coffee To me this looks like alot of food. I will take suggestions and reminders. or more stories on your own personal weight losses and gains. Thanks for listing to my half worried state, and half venting state. Sandy scd 5 months uc since 2004 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Thanks, i had forgotten about that site! I went on it in the beginning to maybe do my journalling there, and then never used it. I really like how the site breaks down everything, and even tells you vitamin and mineral reports from what you enter. I will keep doing this. It showed that I ate 1740 calories. That seems like a good amount to me!Ron Balue wrote: Sandy, Plug your diet foods into fitday.com and it will compute your calories and nutrients you're receiving from them. Then determine how many calories you need to maintain the weight you desire. Ron . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 , First off, try not to skip meals, even if you're going and going. Eat when it slows down a bit. I had one of those evenings this week: we are now transitioning from narcotic pain killers after my cancer surgery to non-narcotic. I have been on stool softeners to keep things moving after the surgical insult and while the narcotics are slowing everything down. So then I have a day, sans stool softeners and sans narcotics, and my system woke up and said, " Hey! We should be doing something about all this crap in here! " And I would p-oooooo-p, and the system would say, " Done! " And I would wash off and stand up, and flush, and the system would say, " Not done yet! " So I would p-oooooo-p, and, well, repeat 4-5 times. Felt a whole lot better afterwards, and probably a good thing I didn't do it all at once, or I'd've plugged up the toilet! Which is not to compare with something like you had, but I was really not feeling like eating while this was going on, so can sympathize. I did eat something simple when I finally got off the pot. First of all, 126 is not that bad a weight for a 5'6 " medium frame female. It's a little light (a whole four pounds, per the Metropolitan ideal weight table), but not bad. No doubt, though, it looks startling to your family, who are accustomed to seeing you somewhat larger during your pregnancy and afterwards. Second, be aware that one of the major issues that SCDers face is not only their own reluctance to give up yummy and easy commercial goodies, but family resistance to the diet. It's weird. A sick person's family hates seeing a loved one suffer, and yet, the sick person is SICK. That's the way they are. For the passive sick person to rear up and take charge of their life, with a special diet that is so weird as far as most Standard American Diet eaters are concerned, is Just Not the Way It's Done. They may not know how it should be done (though it should probably be handled by white coated doctors with a new miracle drug), but they do feel threatened by your sudden take-charge attitude. Since they feel threatened, they'll do everything in their power to return you to the role they're used to you playing: sick. It's not malice. They'll never realize what they're doing. Third, it's quite normal to lose a significant amount of weight when you are first on SCD. Your body is throwing a lot of energy into transitioning from rumen digestion (bacteria driven, like cows, only we're not cows!) to HUMAN digestion. Your body is also throwing a bunch of energy into healing what can be healed quickly. Finally, finally, you are giving it food it can digest and absorb. But SCD is a great normalizer of weight. The person who introduced me to SCD had severe digestive issues and was desperately underweight. She gained weight on SCD. I was (and am) quite obese. My acquaintance gained weight on SCD. And SCD has made great strides towards normalizing my weight, with a loss of nearly 180 pounds. Once you get past the early days of shifting from rumen to human digestion, the trick is eating the right number of calories for your body. http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/weight/calories.asp has some useful information about how many calories you need to maintain your weight. Basically, you need 10-11 calories per pound of your optimum weight just to maintain that body. If you're quite active, you may need more. So if your chosen optimum weight (which you should verify with your doctor) is 140 pounds, you need between 1400 and 1540 calories per day just to carry on your life processes of a sedentary life. If you are at all active, you need to figure out how many calories you use up with activity, and add those. This will almost certainly vary from day to day. I've mentioned before, and, someone else has just mentioned, that FitDay.Com can be a useful tool in this quest to get your weight stabilized. If you want to gain 1 pound per week, you must consume 500 calories per day MORE than you use. If you want to lose 1 pound per week, your must consume 500 calories per day LESS than you use. Using Fit Day lets you see just how much you're actually eating, and lets you track your activity levels so you know when you need to have an extra snack or reduce the size of that serving of nut-flour goody. One person as few months ago was quite concerned about his weight loss as he was a very active person. Turned out, with his activity, he was consuming something like 1500 calories a day less than he was using -- no wonder he was dropping weight like crazy and was exhausted all the time! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Thanks for your support. It helps so much. Today was the worst day ever that I can remember. Very painful, wipe me out Bms. for the whole morning. Hopefully the intro diet will give my bowels a rest as I go back to all the easy easy stuff. Either that or I go to remicaid as an option. I am trying to keep my spirits high. Today, I ate chicken broth, 1 ripe banana, grape juice, green tea, grape jello, and half pound of baked fish, probably less because my two girls kept eating off my plate instead of thiers. I am going to stick to the intro diet for a few days hoping my tummy calms down. So instead of worrying about losing or gaining weight. I am just worrying about keeping food in me long enough. Wish my luck this week. sandy uc since 2004 scd 5 months "Wizop Marilyn L. Alm" wrote: ,First off, try not to skip meals, even if you're going and going. Eat when it slows down a bit. I had one of those evenings this week: we are now transitioning from narcotic pain killers after my cancer surgery to non-narcotic. I have been on stool softeners to keep things moving after the surgical insult and while the narcotics are slowing everything down. So then I have a day, sans stool softeners and sans narcotics, and my system woke up and said, "Hey! We should be doing something about all this crap in here!" And I would p-oooooo-p, and the system would say, "Done!" And I would wash off and stand up, and flush, and the system would say, "Not done yet!" So I would p-oooooo-p, and, well, repeat 4-5 times. Felt a whole lot better afterwards, and probably a good thing I didn't do it all at once, or I'd've plugged up the toilet!Which is not to compare with something like you had, but I was really not feeling like eating while this was going on, so can sympathize. I did eat something simple when I finally got off the pot.First of all, 126 is not that bad a weight for a 5'6" medium frame female. It's a little light (a whole four pounds, per the Metropolitan ideal weight table), but not bad. No doubt, though, it looks startling to your family, who are accustomed to seeing you somewhat larger during your pregnancy and afterwards.Second, be aware that one of the major issues that SCDers face is not only their own reluctance to give up yummy and easy commercial goodies, but family resistance to the diet.It's weird. A sick person's family hates seeing a loved one suffer, and yet, the sick person is SICK. That's the way they are. For the passive sick person to rear up and take charge of their life, with a special diet that is so weird as far as most Standard American Diet eaters are concerned, is Just Not the Way It's Done. They may not know how it should be done (though it should probably be handled by white coated doctors with a new miracle drug), but they do feel threatened by your sudden take-charge attitude. Since they feel threatened, they'll do everything in their power to return you to the role they're used to you playing: sick. It's not malice. They'll never realize what they're doing. Third, it's quite normal to lose a significant amount of weight when you are first on SCD. Your body is throwing a lot of energy into transitioning from rumen digestion (bacteria driven, like cows, only we're not cows!) to HUMAN digestion. Your body is also throwing a bunch of energy into healing what can be healed quickly. Finally, finally, you are giving it food it can digest and absorb.But SCD is a great normalizer of weight. The person who introduced me to SCD had severe digestive issues and was desperately underweight. She gained weight on SCD. I was (and am) quite obese. My acquaintance gained weight on SCD. And SCD has made great strides towards normalizing my weight, with a loss of nearly 180 pounds.Once you get past the early days of shifting from rumen to human digestion, the trick is eating the right number of calories for your body.http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/weight/calories.asphas some useful information about how many calories you need to maintain your weight. Basically, you need 10-11 calories per pound of your optimum weight just to maintain that body. If you're quite active, you may need more.So if your chosen optimum weight (which you should verify with your doctor) is 140 pounds, you need between 1400 and 1540 calories per day just to carry on your life processes of a sedentary life. If you are at all active, you need to figure out how many calories you use up with activity, and add those. This will almost certainly vary from day to day.I've mentioned before, and, someone else has just mentioned, that FitDay.Com can be a useful tool in this quest to get your weight stabilized.If you want to gain 1 pound per week, you must consume 500 calories per day MORE than you use.If you want to lose 1 pound per week, your must consume 500 calories per day LESS than you use.Using Fit Day lets you see just how much you're actually eating, and lets you track your activity levels so you know when you need to have an extra snack or reduce the size of that serving of nut-flour goody.One person as few months ago was quite concerned about his weight loss as he was a very active person. Turned out, with his activity, he was consuming something like 1500 calories a day less than he was using -- no wonder he was dropping weight like crazy and was exhausted all the time! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hi ,Sorry you're having such a rough time :(I'm not sure if you meant you are on the intro diet now or are starting it soon...But just in case it helps, banana and green tea are not on the intro diet. Fish is to be broiled, rather than baked. I don't know if bake vs broil makes a difference, but...Are you diluting the grape juice? And is the "jello" actually Jello (illegal) or is it gelatin flavoured with Welch's (legal)?My feeling is: If we're going to go through the bother of the intro diet, do it exactly as outlined to reap the benefits, otherwise we may need to start over regularly.The first time I did the intro (for my kid only), I had skimmed the BTVC book and didn't really understand why everything had to be "just so". Upon re-reading it (after a setback from several tiny cheats), I really "got" what the SCD is about and am committed on a whole new level.I know it's hard --hey, I gave up 14+ years of vegetarianism to do the chicken broth!! So far, that's been worth the recovery in my health.I do indeed wish you much comfort, success, and recovery this week!Take care,BadenSCD 7 days Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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