Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Go to www.bpdcentral.com they have a list of books that you can get (I think Amazon.com) but it's a start and they tell you a little about what each book is about. Amazon.com sometimes lets you look inside the book and read a few pages to see if it's what you want. There's alot of information out there. I have about 20 books that I have read, including the Stop Walking on Eggshells book and workbook. (Very good material). I just suggest going to the above website to get started! Jan Re: Re:He's Back In Jail > > I know that throughout this month period that I have been posting, many of > you have mentioned various books. I am ready to learn. Could, would someone > give me a list of books, workbooks, groups I could join, etc. Thanks in > advance. > > Jean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Meredith-- No one intended you to be offended. A little levity helps now and again. Chill. RE: Re:He's Back In Jail I find this sort of talk offensive. Virtually no one acts normally in abnormal environments. Hollywood celebrities are ordinary people set adrift in crazy circumstances. I doubt many people could handle themselves well. I also think that when we discuss mentally ill artists in derogatory terms we fail to appreciate that their brain chemistry made it possible for this art to exist. WPeople with mental illness may be difficult to live with, but without their differences, we would have little to enjoy. Meredith Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 , I wholeheartedly agree with you and Kelley. I remember being so angry with my daughter (before she had dx) I couldn't for the life of me figure out why she was acting the way she was! Like a spoiled brat and a baby all wrapped in up in herself! Then, through educating myself through reading, reading, more reading and being on this chat group, the lite bulb went off! I was empowered with knowledge! I learned to seperate her from the disease and felt an overwhelming compassion for what she was going through. She must have felt so alone and not thinking she could trust me! I think if you can see BP's from this attitude it truly is healthier for both. You are right too, that they don't manipulate and do things on purpose, they are driven by the illness to react in a childish way......and I try not to take things she says in anger personally any more. I just walk away. She isn't mad at me, she's simply mad. Jan Re: Re:He's Back In Jail > > > Kelley > > If she cannot deal with more than one person at a time, then why not > just > give me the boys and they'll be out of her hair. And she can have the > dirt bag > and her loser husband whom she will not be able to support much longer > and > > she'll have the baby, isn't that already more than she can handle? > > Jean > > PS You're right about only one person at a time. When she is with him > she > > doesn't want to leave him at all. She doesn't want to work unless he > can > go > too, that's why last summer she pretended to work at real estate by > having > HIM > with the dirty long hair pass out flyers ( " Thinking of Selling Your > Home? " ) with > her. Now wouldn't anyone want him even on their doorstep !!!??? And, > I > > asked her if she was going to be going back to waitressing a few > days/week. She > told me absolutely not. That's because she would have to be away from > him. > So, she's not planning on working! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Kelley-- Good points, and good perspectives. I certainly feel I have the freedom to think someone strange that thinks and acts in the fashion. Re: Re:He's Back In Jail I find knowing celebrities are not sane makes them more normal. There are many celebritites now attributed to have had BPD. All celebrities are not any more mental ill than all stock brokers or all lawyers. Those that have done some really insane things do get noticed more. As for Angelina Jolie, when you read such things in her public bio such as : Was married to Jonny Lee in a black leather pants and a white shirt. On the white shirt she painted her husband's name in her own blood (across the back). it kind a makes one wonder whats up with that. her bio is fascinating as is the list of superstars in her family. She is doing really good stuff with her life now, but her dreams as a child were to be a funeral director and she collects knives and has an interest in mortuary science, a tatoo of the Japanese symbol for death as well. I would say at the very least she was fascinated with death. All though her own statements in her bio say that she may think about death more often than most people but that is because she loves life so....something like that. She also claimed to be so bored with movies in 2003 that she was going to settle down in England and just be a Mum, but has a list of new movies since then and some in production. One of her other quotes was that she didnt need therapy, her roles are therapy. Has a tattoo of a blue window on her lowerback. She claims it's because no matter where she was at any point in her life she always found herself looking out a window wishing to be elsewhere. i don't know but if my neighbors daughter did these things I would speculate some kind of problems More links about famous borderlines, m ovies that portray borderlines etc..... http://www.bpdresources.com/stockholm.html#Famous Kelley RE: Re:He's Back In Jail I find this sort of talk offensive. Virtually no one acts normally in abnormal environments. Hollywood celebrities are ordinary people set adrift in crazy circumstances. I doubt many people could handle themselves well. I also think that when we discuss mentally ill artists in derogatory terms we fail to appreciate that their brain chemistry made it possible for this art to exist. WPeople with mental illness may be difficult to live with, but without their differences, we would have little to enjoy. Meredith Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Meredith-- I find MANY things to enjoy without adding the differences (i.e. chaos, tension, frustration, hurt, pain, etc.) the mentally ill insert into our lives. As a matter of fact, I find it difficult to understand what about those above things add to my enjoyment of life. > I find this sort of talk offensive. Virtually no one acts normally in abnormal environments. Hollywood celebrities are ordinary people set adrift in crazy circumstances. I doubt many people could handle themselves well. > > I also think that when we discuss mentally ill artists in derogatory terms we fail to appreciate that their brain chemistry made it possible for this art to exist. WPeople with mental illness may be difficult to live with, but without their differences, we would have little to enjoy. > > Meredith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Jan it is much easier once we can do this, but I do recall the anguish to get that far! Kelley Re: Re:He's Back In Jail > > > Kelley > > If she cannot deal with more than one person at a time, then why not > just > give me the boys and they'll be out of her hair. And she can have the > dirt bag > and her loser husband whom she will not be able to support much longer > and > > she'll have the baby, isn't that already more than she can handle? > > Jean > > PS You're right about only one person at a time. When she is with him > she > > doesn't want to leave him at all. She doesn't want to work unless he > can > go > too, that's why last summer she pretended to work at real estate by > having > HIM > with the dirty long hair pass out flyers ( " Thinking of Selling Your > Home? " ) with > her. Now wouldn't anyone want him even on their doorstep !!!??? And, > I > > asked her if she was going to be going back to waitressing a few > days/week. She > told me absolutely not. That's because she would have to be away from > him. > So, she's not planning on working! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Angelina especially has done tv shows where she talked about cutting.....there is a whole page of celebrity talk i fofund that horrified me, but at the same time was glad to see that celebrities with problems step up and tell others thier problems. On the other hand an interview I read by Cristina Ricci was not something I would want a teen who felt the need to self injure to read, as she did not act like burning herself was wrong, only that it calmed her down. EEKS.... i think you mentioned A Bright Red Scream? is that the book that first talked about the problems Princess Di had? or did her autibiography come out first? hugs Kelley RE: Re:He's Back In Jail I find this sort of talk offensive. Virtually no one acts normally in abnormal environments. Hollywood celebrities are ordinary people set adrift in crazy circumstances. I doubt many people could handle themselves well. I also think that when we discuss mentally ill artists in derogatory terms we fail to appreciate that their brain chemistry made it possible for this art to exist. WPeople with mental illness may be difficult to live with, but without their differences, we would have little to enjoy. Meredith Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Kelley-- To be honest, I have not read all of A Bright Red Scream. I purchased it when I was doing research for my memoir about my horrid years of dealing with bp. So, am unable to answer your question at this point. However, I'll dig the book out and see if I can find something about Princess Di. A person who struggles with bp, whether a celebrity or not, is very courageous to come forward and talk frankly about that same struggle. And, like you, there are many things I've read when people were discussing their struggle plainly and honestly that I hope my bp dtr never, ever hears about. It would just fuel her own already very vivid imagination. Re: Re:He's Back In Jail Angelina especially has done tv shows where she talked about cutting.....there is a whole page of celebrity talk i fofund that horrified me, but at the same time was glad to see that celebrities with problems step up and tell others thier problems. On the other hand an interview I read by Cristina Ricci was not something I would want a teen who felt the need to self injure to read, as she did not act like burning herself was wrong, only that it calmed her down. EEKS.... i think you mentioned A Bright Red Scream? is that the book that first talked about the problems Princess Di had? or did her autibiography come out first? hugs Kelley RE: Re:He's Back In Jail I find this sort of talk offensive. Virtually no one acts normally in abnormal environments. Hollywood celebrities are ordinary people set adrift in crazy circumstances. I doubt many people could handle themselves well. I also think that when we discuss mentally ill artists in derogatory terms we fail to appreciate that their brain chemistry made it possible for this art to exist. WPeople with mental illness may be difficult to live with, but without their differences, we would have little to enjoy. Meredith Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 dont do that for me, i will just buy both books thanks for the thought though. Ido agree about some of the written information not being for our kids. I want my BPH to read these things but he is at a point wwhere he should be able to handle them but our kids might just take some of this as a go ahead and a green light for what is happening in thier lives. Hugs Kelley RE: Re:He's Back In Jail I find this sort of talk offensive. Virtually no one acts normally in abnormal environments. Hollywood celebrities are ordinary people set adrift in crazy circumstances. I doubt many people could handle themselves well. I also think that when we discuss mentally ill artists in derogatory terms we fail to appreciate that their brain chemistry made it possible for this art to exist. WPeople with mental illness may be difficult to live with, but without their differences, we would have little to enjoy. Meredith Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I heard the other day on the radio, that Princess was borderline personality. > > > Who can keep up with all those Hollywood types?! > > katie > > Re: Re:He's Back In Jail > > > Has anything ever been said about Kidman having any psych problems. > My son says he always thought there was something not right with her. Being > in > the acting/theater field is probably a good hiding place for people with > problems. Who would know if they have fluid identies---it would seem > normal. > > Jean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 She wrote about it in a book she wrote before she died, i think or it was included in a biography about her.....cant find the book now. There are many books on BPD that include excerps abut . Dont know if the bpd is mentioned in this book In Search of Herself: Portrait of a Trouble Princess, but it does discuss her behavior. Hugs Kelley Re: Re:He's Back In Jail > > > Has anything ever been said about Kidman having any psych problems. > My son says he always thought there was something not right with her. Being > in > the acting/theater field is probably a good hiding place for people with > problems. Who would know if they have fluid identies---it would seem > normal. > > Jean > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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