Guest guest Posted September 4, 2000 Report Share Posted September 4, 2000 Hi , Yes - it is really hard isn't it? I've coped with the weight loss up till the last few months fairly well I think but now I feel as if I have lost all my presence and am fading away to this weak, old, shrunken, insignificant little woman. I feel as if I am becoming invisible and no longer have any " force " or " power " - I think you put it really well - the weight has been a shield and I'm sure some of us (particluarly the oldies) have carried that shield around with us for so long, as a way of not only surviving in the rather cruel, unforgiving world out there, but as a way of getting what we want. Hey, I may be fat but I'm worth two (or three, or four) of you any day. And it is not all in the mind. I have a job that pushes me to the front. It is nothing to present to ten people or fifty or more people at workshops, meetings etc.and I am involved in promoting and energising people to achieve. I loved it and thrived on the challenges and the achievements and I gloried in the " awesome presence " I created around me. But once the coffee time came, I shrivelled back into my shell and clutched my papers to me and wandered around with an earnest look on my face and latched on to anyone who wanted to talk turkey. So I got a reputation as one who got things done, could take on more - " Give it to Di, she will do it! " Great! See, I'm Superwoman - I'm fat but I'm Superwoman! " But now, I've lost all that. The strange thing is I'd much rather sit around drinking coffee and discussing people with people. The work can go to hell - I've lost it. And it is a real effort to keep it all together. People notice or maybe now they feel more relaxed with me and able to talk about personal things. Who knows? But I definitely feel as if I have lost my presence - what I had built up so strenuously over the years. I can understand what you went through at 21. It is such a huge effort to keep it all together. I loved Uni studies - Have achieved two degrees and post-graduate diplomas in my chosen field of education for special needs and my lifelong interest in archaeology and ancient history - have studied ancient languages and written paper after paper in these areas, and it almost broke me when I could no longer manage to bring up a child on my own, be a fulltime teacher and study at Uni at night. I just couldn't physically do it. Now it doesn't mean a thing, which is sad - The reason I had the lapband done was to regain some fitness and that mental and physical strength and maybe, just maybe, lose enough weight to go researching through the ruins of prehistoric Greece and Turkey. Now, I'd much rather go for coffee and talk and gossip. Well maybe that's age as well, but I don't think so. But it kept me going - If I didn't have that, I would have given up. I was really fortunate I think, when in primary school, I learned one very important thing. At the ripe old age of 11, I realised that if I was not going to be a victim, I would have to start throwing my weight around. And I did - got hauled up to the principal's office so many times because I'd flattened some boy who had " dared " to call me fattie. They soon learned. Trouble is I had to learn to develop some other strategies really quickly by the time I reached high school and realised such anti-social behaviour was not going to work any more. So then it was throwing my weight around mentally - and that has worked so well for over thirty years. Now what do I do, I don't have that weight or shield (or battering ram) any more and I just don't have the womanly social skills of simpering, battering my eyelids or deferring to the male or dominant to get my way - I'm totally at a loss and Crikey, I'm really stuck. At my worst moments, I think that maybe I need to remove this " lifesaver " and get my weight back. But we all know we can't go back. Don't get me wrong - I love being a normal woman - It's absolutely delightful but I really miss that " shield " at times. I just go to bed and howl, feel so much better and know that I don't really want to go back to that old life. Anything is better than that. Thanks - It's really great to know that others do understand and have or are going through similar issues. I think we could all do with a course in cognitive behaviour therapy. I must dig out my old texts on behaviour modification, I'm in dire need! Someone suggested to me at yesterday's Brisbands meeting that counselling might be the tick and it does really sound a great idea. I had three years of psychological analysis in the early nineties when the world I had built up wasn't working for me any more and that " shield " just was not doing its job; and I went back to see the psychologist on the advice of Trudy last year. It was great revisiting him and seeing his reaction to this changed woman. He spent most of the session just grinning at me and saying the changes (both physical and emotional) were unbelievable and that made me feel really great but of so far out on that limb. I was really ready to go back into analysis and tap into the regressive hypnotherapy that really brought home to me then how deep my pain and anguish was....Too scary and something I still am not ready for. But I will, one day. Till then I will continue to lay my beating heart bare online and thank you all for your words of encouragement. When you all bellow at me " Enough already! " I know it's time to go back and face my childhood history. Well, I think it is time for me to just catch my breath and jump right off - It will be alright. We all have to believe that. The world will not cave in just because we are rejoining the human race....and it is probably not as unforgiving as we perceived it to be. We shall see. It's great that you are feeling much more positive about things, I'm sure the experiences and the lessons learned in that time will hold you in good stead. You have probably got quite a few lessons for us to learn. Thanks . Dianne ---------- > From: melissa.perrow@... > To: ozbandegroups > Subject: Re: Catch Up Time > Date: Monday, 4 September 2000 12:14 > [<http://adimg./img/8940/8/_/707298/_/968033654/PassionFish468x60 ..gif>] <http://click./1/8940/8/_/707298/_/968033654/> [eGroups: </img/logo/logo72.gif>] </> My Groups </mygroups> | ozband Main Page </group/ozband> | Start a new group! <http://click./1/8150/8/_/707298/_/968033654/> Dianne, Your thoughts have struck a cord with me....re: lifelong fatties...i was a " normal size " for a couple of years in my late teens...due to barely eating 3 days a week...and hours and hours of exercise....but the fact is, for me, the weight is a shield that i carry around with me...protecting me from the evils of society....the evils i know only too well from my childhood....i am considering doing cognitive behaviour therapy (learning to change your reactions to a given situation) again....as i didnt really try at all the first time i went into therapy....for anyone who doesnt know...i had a nervous breakdown at the ripe old age of 21....spent a whole year in bed....and postponed completing my uni studies for a year.....well ive been feeling really great for at least the last year....but i know as soon as the weight starts to drop then some of those evil thoughts may come back to haunt me....i wonder how i will cope without my shield..! .. Missy_Belle " dianne " 03/09/2000 10:04 Please respond to ozband To: " lapbanders " <ozbandegroups> cc: Subject: Catch Up Time <http://click./1/8949/8/_/707298/_/967939873/> </> My Groups </mygroups> | ozband Main Page </group/ozband> | Start a new group! <http://click./1/8150/8/_/707298/_/967939873/> Hello everyone, Please excuse if this message is a repeat as my computer failed me the first time and I'm rewriting it. Went back to the docs after quite a while and I've lost 1 more kg. Whoopee! That makes a grand total of 1 kg in over four months. Still - a positive start to Spring. Just come back from my early Sunday walk around the Lake and the birds were all chirping and the mother ducks were shepherding their fluffy little ducklings away from this awesome creature thundering her way down the track. I am determined to get back on the losing track one way or another. Hopefully, regular doses of epsom salts each weekend and more daily exercise will work. I don't know what else to do. I am considering structured exercises but I have never managed to stick to them before - maybe panic will set in soon and I will hire a trainer as some of you are doing. But at least it is light enough around 5.30-5.45 for me to get back to my daily sunrise sessions around the Lake. I've really missed them during winter as it has been still dark when I leave for work and usually still dark when I get home - Ah! Roll on Summer Luckily it should warm up pretty quickly and I can start swimming again as well as my yoga and walking. Mind you I am well aware that I have lost most of my blubber and that the water is going to seem awfully cold for quite a while. I may have to consider heating the pool - more expense. And speaking of expense, I am today throwing out or giving to Vinnies every blessed item of seventies fashion I have squirrelled away in the last of my suitcases. I opened the last one up last Monday evening and just sat there on the floor and howled and howled. It is as if the last vestige of my former life with all the trials and tribulations of wardrobe hunting and " making do " with any old thing because that was all I was ever going to be able to wear have finally caught up with me. We talked about it a little while yesterday - I guess it is quite a common issue. But for lifelong fatties who have never been " normal-sized " it is quite frightening to enter the realm of Size 16s and to give up our fat bodies and all that goes with it. Sounds weird but it is a real issue - our appearance and the way we have presented ourselves for so long (ie all our life) has to be relinquished and we have none of the " normal experiences " to cope. At least that is the way I'm thinking of it. Jo - that book is needed! So I am going shopping ....................in a big way. Hey - has anyone heard from from Innisfail? , would love to hear from you? Hello Sheree - mentioned your earlier problem and solution re a week after lapband surgery at the meeting. Why not put it over the band? More data for our research banks. We had a great meeting yesterday - I'm sure we all left a little light-hearted, if not light-headed and ready to face the coming weeks. I love the way we can discuss anything and everything and laugh, giggle and tease our way through our problems. One of our doctors up here has been broached about advising lapbander patients with concerns about support, of our OZBAND site - responded quite energetically initially, but we're not sure if it will be followed up. Our nutritionist, Trudy , is interested and you may hear her on the net at some stage with her valuable information. We are planning to leave some business cards with her. Hey, my " fashion advisor " from yesterday - my sister takes a " Rescue Remedy " from the health food shops for those times when thing (and people) get too much to bear. I must admit I've taken some drops when I'm about to shatter into a thousand little fragile pieces and they do seem to work. Mind you, it might be the rather strong alcholic solution they are in too. Well, hope all are well, and looking forward to the summer months and ready to lose heaps. Cheers Dianne Band: 2/07/97 Weight Loss: 73kg To lose: about 20-30kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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