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Elaine,

You are the best grandmother a girl could have. It must have been

ridiculous listening to your daughter set " boundaries " for you. It

seems you are biding your time and doing the smart thing. Good luck

with the guardianship - hopefully you will get custody of your

grand, and not look back!!

Carolyn

>

> Hi, it is alte Saturday afternoon so time to let you all know how

the appts went.

>

> Guardianship: went well, Is tatred the procees, the court date

isn't until Sept to give me lots of time to work with this. I ahve

to subpoena both her and the dad and I prefer to wait until after

the court date in August to see if he gets visitation rights back

again or not.

>

>

>

> Very interesting event ahppend that evening though. dgter called,

I answered because I ahd promised to babysit if she got any calls,

remember her work is by call to an ad in the yellow pages or a

newspaper and is immediate. Sadly it ended up an angry and somewhat

abusive call. She started of telling me what a great day she ahd,

got a new job (same work) but in a studio, new daycare, several

other things, she was happy and it was good, then of course the ax

fell and she told me she needed to set some boundaries with me

because she can't ahndle my abusive behaviour and me pushing her

buttons and making ehr angry. Now dear friends please be sitting

down, this is good:

>

> 1. When she calls and asks me for anything I am NOT allowed to

ask why? So if I might babysit so she can work instead of party I am

not allowed to ask Why just yes or no. I said I wouild do my best

>

> 2. Doing my best is not acceptable: this means I can justify my

behaviour. I can only do it or not and if I fail I can try to

apolgize if she is able to stay on the phone and not rage, if not

then I guess I cané do anything

>

> 3. I am not allowed tot alk to grand about her or anything that

ahppens at home

>

> 4. I am resposnsible for taking grand to church becasue it is

something she can not do ehrself, that may mean I will have to

babysit every Sunday. She did ask if I would agree to that and I

did. Hopefully grand will have some positive influences in ehr life

although I did take my own kids and look at how she turned out.

>

> 5. I am not to judge her work. She sees it as a service. it is not

adultery because the client walks through the door. Adultery would

be if she tried to pick him up knowing he was married

>

> 6. I am not to try and get guardianship becasue she would be

terrified that if I got tired of grand I would dump her just like I

dumped dgter when the going gets rough. Again, no sense of

responsibility, that Is ent ehr to erh dAd's and then the group home

becasue of ehr behaviour not because she was little miss charming.

>

> So then she proceeded to tell me that while she was living here a

few weeks ago I apparently gave grand a piece of paper to write on

and on the back was a page from my journal she of course would never

read my jouranl but I had now put this paper into the public domain

and she was really hurt by it and that was why she left. The paper

ahd my life story and several times I ahd written and " she goes on

and on, nothing ever changes " It sit rue I wrote this, I do not

beleive I gave it to grand and of course she read it out of context,

anyway she is realy in pain becasue I ahve nothing good to say about

her. All of you know that story and of course then the rage again

and it isa ll my fault because I put her in a group home.

>

>

>

> anyway, I hung up and the phone said 58 min and 42 seconds, my arm

was numb and I was in shock. How did she know I had statred the

guardianship, how was I ever to be so epfect. anyway I called my

friend, dumped it out and went to bed.

>

>

>

> Friday I saw the new psychologist and I am totlayy pleased. he

specializes in BPD so he could understadn me and ehar me. He agrees

I am doing a great job and that I need support so we will meet

monthly, that is all I can afford right now, and he will help me

process and see if I am coping. The best news though is that there

is DBT program in Calgary. The person in charge was trained by

Marsha Lineham. I ahve the info and I will call Monday to see what

the process is and then find a time to approach dgter with the

inforamtion. When she was with me she did ask for info and all I

could find was addictions stuff. this psych told me that would help

but it doesn't give coping skill after the person is sober, it

teaches how to stay sober which is great but not enough for BPD's,

they need tools to fucntion and that is what dbt offers.

>

> I was to meet her and grand, somehow she twisted the times so i

really got raged at, even grand is feeling that. Seh asks me

sometimes why her Mom yells at me. I tell ehr that ehr Mom has a lot

of stress and soemtimes just gets angry, that she needs to find ways

of coping and we are wroking on that togetehr.

>

> Grand slept over and tody we went downtonw, it is Calgary sTampede

and this city is great for free activities, pancake breaksfasts,

horses, parades, Indian dancing, and on adn on. It is really excitng

so we spent the morning doing that and then just chilled for the

afternoon. She ahs gone hoem now, I am going over alter to sleep so

dgter can be on call but I can leave first thing as there is an othe

babysitter organized.

>

> I'll let you all know waht I find out about this program. Have a

great Sudnay

>

>

>

> Elaine

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.

>

>

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Elaine--

Kudos to you for pressing in and working on getting guardianship.

It sounds like your bp is being so totally unrealistic. It was

amazing to read your post and know that she actually believed that

stuff.

But, you're getting to spend time with your grand, so that's good.

You'll be in my thoughts and prayers, especially as it gets closer

to the court date.

Dot

>

> Hi, it is alte Saturday afternoon so time to let you all know how

the appts went.

>

> Guardianship: went well, Is tatred the procees, the court date

isn't until Sept to give me lots of time to work with this. I ahve

to subpoena both her and the dad and I prefer to wait until after

the court date in August to see if he gets visitation rights back

again or not.

>

>

>

> Very interesting event ahppend that evening though. dgter called,

I answered because I ahd promised to babysit if she got any calls,

remember her work is by call to an ad in the yellow pages or a

newspaper and is immediate. Sadly it ended up an angry and somewhat

abusive call. She started of telling me what a great day she ahd,

got a new job (same work) but in a studio, new daycare, several

other things, she was happy and it was good, then of course the ax

fell and she told me she needed to set some boundaries with me

because she can't ahndle my abusive behaviour and me pushing her

buttons and making ehr angry. Now dear friends please be sitting

down, this is good:

>

> 1. When she calls and asks me for anything I am NOT allowed to

ask why? So if I might babysit so she can work instead of party I am

not allowed to ask Why just yes or no. I said I wouild do my best

>

> 2. Doing my best is not acceptable: this means I can justify my

behaviour. I can only do it or not and if I fail I can try to

apolgize if she is able to stay on the phone and not rage, if not

then I guess I cané do anything

>

> 3. I am not allowed tot alk to grand about her or anything that

ahppens at home

>

> 4. I am resposnsible for taking grand to church becasue it is

something she can not do ehrself, that may mean I will have to

babysit every Sunday. She did ask if I would agree to that and I

did. Hopefully grand will have some positive influences in ehr life

although I did take my own kids and look at how she turned out.

>

> 5. I am not to judge her work. She sees it as a service. it is not

adultery because the client walks through the door. Adultery would

be if she tried to pick him up knowing he was married

>

> 6. I am not to try and get guardianship becasue she would be

terrified that if I got tired of grand I would dump her just like I

dumped dgter when the going gets rough. Again, no sense of

responsibility, that Is ent ehr to erh dAd's and then the group home

becasue of ehr behaviour not because she was little miss charming.

>

> So then she proceeded to tell me that while she was living here a

few weeks ago I apparently gave grand a piece of paper to write on

and on the back was a page from my journal she of course would never

read my jouranl but I had now put this paper into the public domain

and she was really hurt by it and that was why she left. The paper

ahd my life story and several times I ahd written and " she goes on

and on, nothing ever changes " It sit rue I wrote this, I do not

beleive I gave it to grand and of course she read it out of context,

anyway she is realy in pain becasue I ahve nothing good to say about

her. All of you know that story and of course then the rage again

and it isa ll my fault because I put her in a group home.

>

>

>

> anyway, I hung up and the phone said 58 min and 42 seconds, my arm

was numb and I was in shock. How did she know I had statred the

guardianship, how was I ever to be so epfect. anyway I called my

friend, dumped it out and went to bed.

>

>

>

> Friday I saw the new psychologist and I am totlayy pleased. he

specializes in BPD so he could understadn me and ehar me. He agrees

I am doing a great job and that I need support so we will meet

monthly, that is all I can afford right now, and he will help me

process and see if I am coping. The best news though is that there

is DBT program in Calgary. The person in charge was trained by

Marsha Lineham. I ahve the info and I will call Monday to see what

the process is and then find a time to approach dgter with the

inforamtion. When she was with me she did ask for info and all I

could find was addictions stuff. this psych told me that would help

but it doesn't give coping skill after the person is sober, it

teaches how to stay sober which is great but not enough for BPD's,

they need tools to fucntion and that is what dbt offers.

>

> I was to meet her and grand, somehow she twisted the times so i

really got raged at, even grand is feeling that. Seh asks me

sometimes why her Mom yells at me. I tell ehr that ehr Mom has a lot

of stress and soemtimes just gets angry, that she needs to find ways

of coping and we are wroking on that togetehr.

>

> Grand slept over and tody we went downtonw, it is Calgary sTampede

and this city is great for free activities, pancake breaksfasts,

horses, parades, Indian dancing, and on adn on. It is really excitng

so we spent the morning doing that and then just chilled for the

afternoon. She ahs gone hoem now, I am going over alter to sleep so

dgter can be on call but I can leave first thing as there is an othe

babysitter organized.

>

> I'll let you all know waht I find out about this program. Have a

great Sudnay

>

>

>

> Elaine

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.

>

>

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Elaine,

I am glad you found a counselor to confirm your parenting skills. Now hopefully

to alieve some of the stress!!!

Can you possibly have your daughter write down the new rules and guidelines for

you? (Something to show the people in the systems/courts/counselors, etc???)

Don't sign anything.

Sounds like you need to set some boundaries for you -- behaviors you will and

won't accept from her. Maybe you can work with the counselor on that. They need

to learn they are not in control of others behavior. I know it's tricky with

grand...

It sounds like guardianship is a long and lonely road -- are you proving she is

incompetent? Best to you,

Carol

-------------- Original message --------------

>

> Hi, it is alte Saturday afternoon so time to let you all know how the appts

> went.

>

> Guardianship: went well, Is tatred the procees, the court date isn't until

Sept

> to give me lots of time to work with this. I ahve to subpoena both her and the

> dad and I prefer to wait until after the court date in August to see if he

gets

> visitation rights back again or not.

>

>

>

> Very interesting event ahppend that evening though. dgter called, I answered

> because I ahd promised to babysit if she got any calls, remember her work is

by

> call to an ad in the yellow pages or a newspaper and is immediate. Sadly it

> ended up an angry and somewhat abusive call. She started of telling me what a

> great day she ahd, got a new job (same work) but in a studio, new daycare,

> several other things, she was happy and it was good, then of course the ax

fell

> and she told me she needed to set some boundaries with me because she can't

> ahndle my abusive behaviour and me pushing her buttons and making ehr angry.

Now

> dear friends please be sitting down, this is good:

>

> 1. When she calls and asks me for anything I am NOT allowed to ask why? So if

I

> might babysit so she can work instead of party I am not allowed to ask Why

just

> yes or no. I said I wouild do my best

>

> 2. Doing my best is not acceptable: this means I can justify my behaviour. I

can

> only do it or not and if I fail I can try to apolgize if she is able to stay

on

> the phone and not rage, if not then I guess I cané do anything

>

> 3. I am not allowed tot alk to grand about her or anything that ahppens at

home

>

> 4. I am resposnsible for taking grand to church becasue it is something she

can

> not do ehrself, that may mean I will have to babysit every Sunday. She did ask

> if I would agree to that and I did. Hopefully grand will have some positive

> influences in ehr life although I did take my own kids and look at how she

> turned out.

>

> 5. I am not to judge her work. She sees it as a service. it is not adultery

> because the client walks through the door. Adultery would be if she tried to

> pick him up knowing he was married

>

> 6. I am not to try and get guardianship becasue she would be terrified that if

I

> got tired of grand I would dump her just like I dumped dgter when the going

gets

> rough. Again, no sense of responsibility, that Is ent ehr to erh dAd's and

then

> the group home becasue of ehr behaviour not because she was little miss

> charming.

>

> So then she proceeded to tell me that while she was living here a few weeks

ago

> I apparently gave grand a piece of paper to write on and on the back was a

page

> from my journal she of course would never read my jouranl but I had now put

this

> paper into the public domain and she was really hurt by it and that was why

she

> left. The paper ahd my life story and several times I ahd written and " she

goes

> on and on, nothing ever changes " It sit rue I wrote this, I do not beleive I

> gave it to grand and of course she read it out of context, anyway she is realy

> in pain becasue I ahve nothing good to say about her. All of you know that

story

> and of course then the rage again and it isa ll my fault because I put her in

a

> group home.

>

>

>

> anyway, I hung up and the phone said 58 min and 42 seconds, my arm was numb

and

> I was in shock. How did she know I had statred the guardianship, how was I

ever

> to be so epfect. anyway I called my friend, dumped it out and went to bed.

>

>

>

> Friday I saw the new psychologist and I am totlayy pleased. he specializes in

> BPD so he could understadn me and ehar me. He agrees I am doing a great job

and

> that I need support so we will meet monthly, that is all I can afford right

now,

> and he will help me process and see if I am coping. The best news though is

that

> there is DBT program in Calgary. The person in charge was trained by Marsha

> Lineham. I ahve the info and I will call Monday to see what the process is and

> then find a time to approach dgter with the inforamtion. When she was with me

> she did ask for info and all I could find was addictions stuff. this psych

told

> me that would help but it doesn't give coping skill after the person is sober,

> it teaches how to stay sober which is great but not enough for BPD's, they

need

> tools to fucntion and that is what dbt offers.

>

> I was to meet her and grand, somehow she twisted the times so i really got

raged

> at, even grand is feeling that. Seh asks me sometimes why her Mom yells at me.

I

> tell ehr that ehr Mom has a lot of stress and soemtimes just gets angry, that

> she needs to find ways of coping and we are wroking on that togetehr.

>

> Grand slept over and tody we went downtonw, it is Calgary sTampede and this

city

> is great for free activities, pancake breaksfasts, horses, parades, Indian

> dancing, and on adn on. It is really excitng so we spent the morning doing

that

> and then just chilled for the afternoon. She ahs gone hoem now, I am going

over

> alter to sleep so dgter can be on call but I can leave first thing as there is

> an othe babysitter organized.

>

> I'll let you all know waht I find out about this program. Have a great Sudnay

>

>

>

> Elaine

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.

>

>

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Hello, All,

Been a long time since I last posted. We went away for three weeks

at Christmas and wound up helping my parents move into their new

house (primary b/c we needed a WORKING kitchen for SCD and it

snowballed from there). I was so burned out upon our return that

it's taken me this long to bring myself back to list, though all the

digests are piling up in my SCD folder.

At any rate, my husband is just under a year on SCD and just had is

first colonoscopy since his diagnosis 5 1/2 years ago. We were

preparing ourselves for bad news b/c he'd been in a flare for the

last 3 weeks, in spite of returning to the intro diet, but in fact

he said the pictures look much better than they did the first time,

and while he is still inflamed, the " mild to moderate " diagnosis

held, which means nothing got worse, and if anything, my husband

believes it looks much better. So that gave us heart. Now we'll have

to see how he does on the intro again post-colonoscopy and are

hoping he'll be back to wheere he was a few months ago.

In fact, he was doing so well that he'd cut back slightly on his

meds, but then FORGOT two days in a row to take two doses, and his

stress level with work skyrocketed. We're hoping to get him

completely back on track for the summer, and deal with other ways of

addressing the stress. But over all, the diet continues to do

wonders for controlling the colitis and he's doing great.

Still making crazy adaptations to scd recipes and lovign the

results. The latest was banana icecream.

Best wishes to all,

beth (husband, UC 5.5 yrs, SCD 11 mo)

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beth,

Great news to hear!

Marilyn

New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Surgery for Endometrial Cancer, 7 April 2008

Darn Good SCD Cook

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