Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Elaine, You are the best grandmother a girl could have. It must have been ridiculous listening to your daughter set " boundaries " for you. It seems you are biding your time and doing the smart thing. Good luck with the guardianship - hopefully you will get custody of your grand, and not look back!! Carolyn > > Hi, it is alte Saturday afternoon so time to let you all know how the appts went. > > Guardianship: went well, Is tatred the procees, the court date isn't until Sept to give me lots of time to work with this. I ahve to subpoena both her and the dad and I prefer to wait until after the court date in August to see if he gets visitation rights back again or not. > > > > Very interesting event ahppend that evening though. dgter called, I answered because I ahd promised to babysit if she got any calls, remember her work is by call to an ad in the yellow pages or a newspaper and is immediate. Sadly it ended up an angry and somewhat abusive call. She started of telling me what a great day she ahd, got a new job (same work) but in a studio, new daycare, several other things, she was happy and it was good, then of course the ax fell and she told me she needed to set some boundaries with me because she can't ahndle my abusive behaviour and me pushing her buttons and making ehr angry. Now dear friends please be sitting down, this is good: > > 1. When she calls and asks me for anything I am NOT allowed to ask why? So if I might babysit so she can work instead of party I am not allowed to ask Why just yes or no. I said I wouild do my best > > 2. Doing my best is not acceptable: this means I can justify my behaviour. I can only do it or not and if I fail I can try to apolgize if she is able to stay on the phone and not rage, if not then I guess I cané do anything > > 3. I am not allowed tot alk to grand about her or anything that ahppens at home > > 4. I am resposnsible for taking grand to church becasue it is something she can not do ehrself, that may mean I will have to babysit every Sunday. She did ask if I would agree to that and I did. Hopefully grand will have some positive influences in ehr life although I did take my own kids and look at how she turned out. > > 5. I am not to judge her work. She sees it as a service. it is not adultery because the client walks through the door. Adultery would be if she tried to pick him up knowing he was married > > 6. I am not to try and get guardianship becasue she would be terrified that if I got tired of grand I would dump her just like I dumped dgter when the going gets rough. Again, no sense of responsibility, that Is ent ehr to erh dAd's and then the group home becasue of ehr behaviour not because she was little miss charming. > > So then she proceeded to tell me that while she was living here a few weeks ago I apparently gave grand a piece of paper to write on and on the back was a page from my journal she of course would never read my jouranl but I had now put this paper into the public domain and she was really hurt by it and that was why she left. The paper ahd my life story and several times I ahd written and " she goes on and on, nothing ever changes " It sit rue I wrote this, I do not beleive I gave it to grand and of course she read it out of context, anyway she is realy in pain becasue I ahve nothing good to say about her. All of you know that story and of course then the rage again and it isa ll my fault because I put her in a group home. > > > > anyway, I hung up and the phone said 58 min and 42 seconds, my arm was numb and I was in shock. How did she know I had statred the guardianship, how was I ever to be so epfect. anyway I called my friend, dumped it out and went to bed. > > > > Friday I saw the new psychologist and I am totlayy pleased. he specializes in BPD so he could understadn me and ehar me. He agrees I am doing a great job and that I need support so we will meet monthly, that is all I can afford right now, and he will help me process and see if I am coping. The best news though is that there is DBT program in Calgary. The person in charge was trained by Marsha Lineham. I ahve the info and I will call Monday to see what the process is and then find a time to approach dgter with the inforamtion. When she was with me she did ask for info and all I could find was addictions stuff. this psych told me that would help but it doesn't give coping skill after the person is sober, it teaches how to stay sober which is great but not enough for BPD's, they need tools to fucntion and that is what dbt offers. > > I was to meet her and grand, somehow she twisted the times so i really got raged at, even grand is feeling that. Seh asks me sometimes why her Mom yells at me. I tell ehr that ehr Mom has a lot of stress and soemtimes just gets angry, that she needs to find ways of coping and we are wroking on that togetehr. > > Grand slept over and tody we went downtonw, it is Calgary sTampede and this city is great for free activities, pancake breaksfasts, horses, parades, Indian dancing, and on adn on. It is really excitng so we spent the morning doing that and then just chilled for the afternoon. She ahs gone hoem now, I am going over alter to sleep so dgter can be on call but I can leave first thing as there is an othe babysitter organized. > > I'll let you all know waht I find out about this program. Have a great Sudnay > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Elaine-- Kudos to you for pressing in and working on getting guardianship. It sounds like your bp is being so totally unrealistic. It was amazing to read your post and know that she actually believed that stuff. But, you're getting to spend time with your grand, so that's good. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers, especially as it gets closer to the court date. Dot > > Hi, it is alte Saturday afternoon so time to let you all know how the appts went. > > Guardianship: went well, Is tatred the procees, the court date isn't until Sept to give me lots of time to work with this. I ahve to subpoena both her and the dad and I prefer to wait until after the court date in August to see if he gets visitation rights back again or not. > > > > Very interesting event ahppend that evening though. dgter called, I answered because I ahd promised to babysit if she got any calls, remember her work is by call to an ad in the yellow pages or a newspaper and is immediate. Sadly it ended up an angry and somewhat abusive call. She started of telling me what a great day she ahd, got a new job (same work) but in a studio, new daycare, several other things, she was happy and it was good, then of course the ax fell and she told me she needed to set some boundaries with me because she can't ahndle my abusive behaviour and me pushing her buttons and making ehr angry. Now dear friends please be sitting down, this is good: > > 1. When she calls and asks me for anything I am NOT allowed to ask why? So if I might babysit so she can work instead of party I am not allowed to ask Why just yes or no. I said I wouild do my best > > 2. Doing my best is not acceptable: this means I can justify my behaviour. I can only do it or not and if I fail I can try to apolgize if she is able to stay on the phone and not rage, if not then I guess I cané do anything > > 3. I am not allowed tot alk to grand about her or anything that ahppens at home > > 4. I am resposnsible for taking grand to church becasue it is something she can not do ehrself, that may mean I will have to babysit every Sunday. She did ask if I would agree to that and I did. Hopefully grand will have some positive influences in ehr life although I did take my own kids and look at how she turned out. > > 5. I am not to judge her work. She sees it as a service. it is not adultery because the client walks through the door. Adultery would be if she tried to pick him up knowing he was married > > 6. I am not to try and get guardianship becasue she would be terrified that if I got tired of grand I would dump her just like I dumped dgter when the going gets rough. Again, no sense of responsibility, that Is ent ehr to erh dAd's and then the group home becasue of ehr behaviour not because she was little miss charming. > > So then she proceeded to tell me that while she was living here a few weeks ago I apparently gave grand a piece of paper to write on and on the back was a page from my journal she of course would never read my jouranl but I had now put this paper into the public domain and she was really hurt by it and that was why she left. The paper ahd my life story and several times I ahd written and " she goes on and on, nothing ever changes " It sit rue I wrote this, I do not beleive I gave it to grand and of course she read it out of context, anyway she is realy in pain becasue I ahve nothing good to say about her. All of you know that story and of course then the rage again and it isa ll my fault because I put her in a group home. > > > > anyway, I hung up and the phone said 58 min and 42 seconds, my arm was numb and I was in shock. How did she know I had statred the guardianship, how was I ever to be so epfect. anyway I called my friend, dumped it out and went to bed. > > > > Friday I saw the new psychologist and I am totlayy pleased. he specializes in BPD so he could understadn me and ehar me. He agrees I am doing a great job and that I need support so we will meet monthly, that is all I can afford right now, and he will help me process and see if I am coping. The best news though is that there is DBT program in Calgary. The person in charge was trained by Marsha Lineham. I ahve the info and I will call Monday to see what the process is and then find a time to approach dgter with the inforamtion. When she was with me she did ask for info and all I could find was addictions stuff. this psych told me that would help but it doesn't give coping skill after the person is sober, it teaches how to stay sober which is great but not enough for BPD's, they need tools to fucntion and that is what dbt offers. > > I was to meet her and grand, somehow she twisted the times so i really got raged at, even grand is feeling that. Seh asks me sometimes why her Mom yells at me. I tell ehr that ehr Mom has a lot of stress and soemtimes just gets angry, that she needs to find ways of coping and we are wroking on that togetehr. > > Grand slept over and tody we went downtonw, it is Calgary sTampede and this city is great for free activities, pancake breaksfasts, horses, parades, Indian dancing, and on adn on. It is really excitng so we spent the morning doing that and then just chilled for the afternoon. She ahs gone hoem now, I am going over alter to sleep so dgter can be on call but I can leave first thing as there is an othe babysitter organized. > > I'll let you all know waht I find out about this program. Have a great Sudnay > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Elaine, I am glad you found a counselor to confirm your parenting skills. Now hopefully to alieve some of the stress!!! Can you possibly have your daughter write down the new rules and guidelines for you? (Something to show the people in the systems/courts/counselors, etc???) Don't sign anything. Sounds like you need to set some boundaries for you -- behaviors you will and won't accept from her. Maybe you can work with the counselor on that. They need to learn they are not in control of others behavior. I know it's tricky with grand... It sounds like guardianship is a long and lonely road -- are you proving she is incompetent? Best to you, Carol -------------- Original message -------------- > > Hi, it is alte Saturday afternoon so time to let you all know how the appts > went. > > Guardianship: went well, Is tatred the procees, the court date isn't until Sept > to give me lots of time to work with this. I ahve to subpoena both her and the > dad and I prefer to wait until after the court date in August to see if he gets > visitation rights back again or not. > > > > Very interesting event ahppend that evening though. dgter called, I answered > because I ahd promised to babysit if she got any calls, remember her work is by > call to an ad in the yellow pages or a newspaper and is immediate. Sadly it > ended up an angry and somewhat abusive call. She started of telling me what a > great day she ahd, got a new job (same work) but in a studio, new daycare, > several other things, she was happy and it was good, then of course the ax fell > and she told me she needed to set some boundaries with me because she can't > ahndle my abusive behaviour and me pushing her buttons and making ehr angry. Now > dear friends please be sitting down, this is good: > > 1. When she calls and asks me for anything I am NOT allowed to ask why? So if I > might babysit so she can work instead of party I am not allowed to ask Why just > yes or no. I said I wouild do my best > > 2. Doing my best is not acceptable: this means I can justify my behaviour. I can > only do it or not and if I fail I can try to apolgize if she is able to stay on > the phone and not rage, if not then I guess I cané do anything > > 3. I am not allowed tot alk to grand about her or anything that ahppens at home > > 4. I am resposnsible for taking grand to church becasue it is something she can > not do ehrself, that may mean I will have to babysit every Sunday. She did ask > if I would agree to that and I did. Hopefully grand will have some positive > influences in ehr life although I did take my own kids and look at how she > turned out. > > 5. I am not to judge her work. She sees it as a service. it is not adultery > because the client walks through the door. Adultery would be if she tried to > pick him up knowing he was married > > 6. I am not to try and get guardianship becasue she would be terrified that if I > got tired of grand I would dump her just like I dumped dgter when the going gets > rough. Again, no sense of responsibility, that Is ent ehr to erh dAd's and then > the group home becasue of ehr behaviour not because she was little miss > charming. > > So then she proceeded to tell me that while she was living here a few weeks ago > I apparently gave grand a piece of paper to write on and on the back was a page > from my journal she of course would never read my jouranl but I had now put this > paper into the public domain and she was really hurt by it and that was why she > left. The paper ahd my life story and several times I ahd written and " she goes > on and on, nothing ever changes " It sit rue I wrote this, I do not beleive I > gave it to grand and of course she read it out of context, anyway she is realy > in pain becasue I ahve nothing good to say about her. All of you know that story > and of course then the rage again and it isa ll my fault because I put her in a > group home. > > > > anyway, I hung up and the phone said 58 min and 42 seconds, my arm was numb and > I was in shock. How did she know I had statred the guardianship, how was I ever > to be so epfect. anyway I called my friend, dumped it out and went to bed. > > > > Friday I saw the new psychologist and I am totlayy pleased. he specializes in > BPD so he could understadn me and ehar me. He agrees I am doing a great job and > that I need support so we will meet monthly, that is all I can afford right now, > and he will help me process and see if I am coping. The best news though is that > there is DBT program in Calgary. The person in charge was trained by Marsha > Lineham. I ahve the info and I will call Monday to see what the process is and > then find a time to approach dgter with the inforamtion. When she was with me > she did ask for info and all I could find was addictions stuff. this psych told > me that would help but it doesn't give coping skill after the person is sober, > it teaches how to stay sober which is great but not enough for BPD's, they need > tools to fucntion and that is what dbt offers. > > I was to meet her and grand, somehow she twisted the times so i really got raged > at, even grand is feeling that. Seh asks me sometimes why her Mom yells at me. I > tell ehr that ehr Mom has a lot of stress and soemtimes just gets angry, that > she needs to find ways of coping and we are wroking on that togetehr. > > Grand slept over and tody we went downtonw, it is Calgary sTampede and this city > is great for free activities, pancake breaksfasts, horses, parades, Indian > dancing, and on adn on. It is really excitng so we spent the morning doing that > and then just chilled for the afternoon. She ahs gone hoem now, I am going over > alter to sleep so dgter can be on call but I can leave first thing as there is > an othe babysitter organized. > > I'll let you all know waht I find out about this program. Have a great Sudnay > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Hello, All, Been a long time since I last posted. We went away for three weeks at Christmas and wound up helping my parents move into their new house (primary b/c we needed a WORKING kitchen for SCD and it snowballed from there). I was so burned out upon our return that it's taken me this long to bring myself back to list, though all the digests are piling up in my SCD folder. At any rate, my husband is just under a year on SCD and just had is first colonoscopy since his diagnosis 5 1/2 years ago. We were preparing ourselves for bad news b/c he'd been in a flare for the last 3 weeks, in spite of returning to the intro diet, but in fact he said the pictures look much better than they did the first time, and while he is still inflamed, the " mild to moderate " diagnosis held, which means nothing got worse, and if anything, my husband believes it looks much better. So that gave us heart. Now we'll have to see how he does on the intro again post-colonoscopy and are hoping he'll be back to wheere he was a few months ago. In fact, he was doing so well that he'd cut back slightly on his meds, but then FORGOT two days in a row to take two doses, and his stress level with work skyrocketed. We're hoping to get him completely back on track for the summer, and deal with other ways of addressing the stress. But over all, the diet continues to do wonders for controlling the colitis and he's doing great. Still making crazy adaptations to scd recipes and lovign the results. The latest was banana icecream. Best wishes to all, beth (husband, UC 5.5 yrs, SCD 11 mo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 beth, Great news to hear! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Surgery for Endometrial Cancer, 7 April 2008 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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