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Yes, and they have no Bill of Rights for Veterans as during WWII,

and are just being treated as cannon fodder, and then thrown

away. I see it daily here in the S.F. Bay Area where we all

work to build shelters for them and to get them into group homes.

Maybe if we just all cared about one another at home, oh, well,

I cannot stop dreaming, never have. . .of course, if we all had

decent medical care, these veterans would not be left out, and

if we had more low income housing, and, and, and, I know,

dreaming again. . .for all of us, including us on this list

Good one, Trista,

love,

n

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> We have a vet that has to pan handle to eat. He is a double amputee in a

> wheelchair. This is why I get so upset at our $ going out of our country

> to help, when we have American citizens here that fought for our country,

> that go without food and meds. And a lot of them are homeless. What does

> this say about our Government? We are failing these people.

>

> Smyelin groovy wrote:

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> Not just your opinion!! It's absurd the way our Vets are treated.

>

> Each Memorial Day a couple of our older Vets sit outside a few of the

> grocery stores. The little can for dropping of dollars in is sitting on the

> table, with the small and simply-made forgetmenots spread out. When you

> drop a bit in the can, you get a flower. This money is being raised is to

> pay for gas to get our Vets to and from the VA hospital. That hospital is

> 3½ to 4 hours from me, so about the same for others in our area, and even

> further for more.

>

> They shouldn't have to travel so far. They shouldn't have to sit in front

> of the grocery store, hoping for a dollar dropped here and there, just to

> get to that medical care.

>

> Oh, the whole thing pisses me off.

>

> Derailing myself now. LOL

>

> Challis

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> Re: Sad news for California recipients of Medi-Cal or

> Medi-Medi

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> Yes...This is sad. So sad, my blood is boiling with anger! This is not good,

> and many people who are already suffering from illness, will never be able

> to get the care they need. I think it's a real tragedy.

> Love and blessings...

> Val

>

> n Rojas <Rojas5915Gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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> http://www.californ iahealthline. org/articles/ 2008/2/4/ Lawmakers-

> To-Examine- MediCal-Cuts- in-Governors- Budget-Plan. aspx

>

> Cuts in governor's plan in California will remove from Medi-Cal

> (Medicaid in California)

> many programs:

>

> dental care for adults

> optometry (glasses) for adults

> podiatry (for adults)

> cuts to nursing homes, convalescent homes, rehabilitation centers

> lower re-imbursement rates to physicians and hospitals

>

> And so on. These things also apply to those who have both

> SSDI/Medicare and SSI/Medi-Cal (Medicaid in California) as

> fewer doctors and hospitals are willing to take those patients

> with both sets of coverage as they get so little re-imbursement.

>

> I know, more cheer!

> Love to you all,

> n, aka, your friendly link lady

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>

>

> Love and blessings...

> Val <*)))><

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> Euphemisms are unpleasant truths wearing diplomatic cologne. ~Quentin

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I cannot even imagine being a homeless vet, on the streets there. It does get cold here in Winter, but not nearly as bad as other places.n Rojas wrote: Yes, and they have no Bill of Rights for Veterans as during WWII,and are just being treated as cannon fodder, and then thrownaway. I see it daily here in the S.F. Bay Area where we allwork to build shelters for them and to get them into group homes.Maybe if we just all cared about one another at

home, oh, well,I cannot stop dreaming, never have. . .of course, if we all haddecent medical care, these veterans would not be left out, andif we had more low income housing, and, and, and, I know,dreaming again. . .for all of us, including us on this listGood one, Trista,love,nOn Feb 12, 2008 1:36 PM, Trista <tabeloe37> wrote:>>>>> We have a vet that has to pan handle to eat. He is a double amputee in a> wheelchair. This is why I get so upset at our $ going out of our country> to help, when we have American citizens here that fought for our country,> that go without food and meds. And a lot of them are homeless. What does> this say about our Government? We are failing these people.>> Smyelin groovy <smyelingroovy>

wrote:>>> Not just your opinion!! It's absurd the way our Vets are treated.>> Each Memorial Day a couple of our older Vets sit outside a few of the> grocery stores. The little can for dropping of dollars in is sitting on the> table, with the small and simply-made forgetmenots spread out. When you> drop a bit in the can, you get a flower. This money is being raised is to> pay for gas to get our Vets to and from the VA hospital. That hospital is> 3½ to 4 hours from me, so about the same for others in our area, and even> further for more.>> They shouldn't have to travel so far. They shouldn't have to sit in front> of the grocery store, hoping for a dollar dropped here and there, just to> get to that medical care.>> Oh, the whole thing pisses me off.>> Derailing myself now. LOL>> Challis>>>>> -----

Original Message ----> From: Trista <tabeloe37>> To: MSersLife > Sent: Friday, February 8, 2008 7:54:38 PM> Subject: Re: Sad news for California recipients of Medi-Cal or> Medi-Medi>>> What makes me the maddest is that our veterans get substandard care here.> My FIL has a horrible time getting appointments and meds. I think they> should have a card they can take to any Dr. or hospital of their choice. We> do not treat our veterans properly in the US. (just my opinion)>> Sharon <wobbletowalk@ yahoo.com> wrote:>> ILpulled. Arizona has it's own form of Medicaid because our state opted out> of that federal program but we did get federal approval for our own version> of Medicaid called AHCCCS.>> Not all

states have the same services apparently. It would be ideal for> everyone who needs help gets it but unfortunately those in charge don't> agree. I know there are a lot of people who get the medical services by> fraud and if that wasn't happening then perhaps the funding would spread> further. Wouldn't that be wonderful?>> Sharon>>>> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling> and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to> be considered flaws or defects.>>>>>> Re: Sad news for California recipients of Medi-Cal or> Medi-Medi>>> Yes...This is sad. So sad, my blood is

boiling with anger! This is not good,> and many people who are already suffering from illness, will never be able> to get the care they need. I think it's a real tragedy.> Love and blessings...> Val>> n Rojas <Rojas5915Gmail (DOT) com> wrote:>> http://www.californ iahealthline. org/articles/ 2008/2/4/ Lawmakers-> To-Examine- MediCal-Cuts- in-Governors- Budget-Plan. aspx>> Cuts in governor's plan in California will remove from Medi-Cal> (Medicaid in California)> many programs:>> dental care for adults> optometry (glasses) for adults> podiatry (for adults)> cuts to nursing homes, convalescent homes, rehabilitation centers> lower re-imbursement rates to physicians and hospitals>> And so on. These things also apply to those who have both> SSDI/Medicare and SSI/Medi-Cal (Medicaid in

California) as> fewer doctors and hospitals are willing to take those patients> with both sets of coverage as they get so little re-imbursement.>> I know, more cheer!> Love to you all,> n, aka, your friendly link lady>>>> Love and blessings...> Val <*)))><>> Euphemisms are unpleasant truths wearing diplomatic cologne. ~Quentin> Crisp~> ________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it> now.>>> ________________________________> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.>>>> Blessings, Trista> 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'...> (Sinclair )>> ________________________________> Looking for last minute shopping

deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.>>> ________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it> now.>>>> Blessings, Trista> 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'...> (Sinclair )>>> ________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it> now.>>>> Blessings, Trista 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'... (Sinclair )

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