Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

[Guest guest]

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

" seems to help only a little bit " Probably because it wasn't pain. Emma

cried when any casts were applied to her feet, even the ones the Shriners

put on that hardly turned her feet at all. The Shriners did once put a cast

where the foot slipped slightly. We knew something was wrong then because

she cried differently and became lethargic. Sure enough a bruise had formed

on the top of her foot.

The first time Dr. Ponseti manipulated Emma's foot he stretched it much,

much farther out than the Shriners people ever did and she was smiling and

cooing all through it. Obviously the stretching caused no pain! Once he

started applying the casts she cried. Some children don't cry through any of

it.

Why are you so bent on discrediting Ponseti and his method?

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

I am most certainly NOT bent on discrediting Ponseti. He does quite well

himself with comments such as " the French Technique causes pain in some babies " .

He should have kept his comments to himself and been professional.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

There is an entire page of people posting about the discomfort. I just

referenced that one.

It would make sense to me that the child would ache and experience discomfort.

A clubfoot that is rigid and difficult to yield under manipulation will be

gently forced and stretched. Then it is held in this isometric position. Sort

of like the same achiness and discomfort a child experiences when their braces

are tightened.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

How does his opinion about the French method discredit himself or his own

method? It's just his opinion.

Re: Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

I am most certainly NOT bent on discrediting Ponseti. He does quite well

himself with comments such as " the French Technique causes pain in some

babies " .

He should have kept his comments to himself and been professional.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

The pain would be most intense upon the initial stretching, not for hours

after. And since children generally don't cry during the intial stretching

or after the casts are applied, it suggests that there is no pain.

Temperment has probably alot more to do with a child's reaction to the

stretching and casting.

I'm getting out of this discussion, you're only interest seems to be to

discredit this method because of the comments of a few about the French

method.

Re: Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

There is an entire page of people posting about the discomfort. I just

referenced that one.

It would make sense to me that the child would ache and experience

discomfort. A clubfoot that is rigid and difficult to yield under

manipulation will be gently forced and stretched. Then it is held in this

isometric position. Sort of like the same achiness and discomfort a child

experiences when their braces are tightened.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

Comments of a few? This site addresses itself as a French and Ponseti site, but

it seems that there is always some French bashing or statistic citing to

discredit it. It is aggrivating and discouraging.

I will not back down this time. Sorry if I am harsh, but that is the way it is.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

" The 70 degree rotation is neither " painful " nor " unnatural " for a baby (which,

I

believe has been asserted ad nauseum so let us please put that to rest once

and for all), in fact, Emma can turn her feet past 70 degrees on her own

during certain activities. "

Actually it is unnatural. A normal foot can only hyperextend to 40-45 degrees.

That includes a baby foot. An unbiased book on the infant skeletal system will

support this.

And I shovel the last load of dirt on that grave.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

I sprained my ankle during spring break. It hyperflexed way in and I fell. It

smarted when it happened, but I was able to hike the remaining 1 1/2 miles down

the mountian we were on. The real pain did not start until hours later....so

much that that next morning I went in and had it x-rayed.

Epinephrine is a funny thing.

Jody

Re: 1st casting with Dr. Tuck in Md.

If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is NOT

pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

Jody

>

> Holly,

>

> What did you do for the pain and discomfort? We have given him some

> children's Tylenol - seems to help only a little bit.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> Mike,

> 's first and second casts with Dr. Ponseti were rough for her,

> especially the second one! I think it was because her feet were

moved the

> farthest in those two (and probably because she was already 5

months) after

> that, it was a breeze! She had a total of 6, the sixth one being

put on

> after the tenotomy. Even that one didn't bother her near as much as

the

> second. She's in her sixth now and has been banging them around

since the

> 3rd day, post tenotomy. I imagine things will get much easier as

you go

> along. Hang in there!

> Holly

[Guest guest]

> If you type in " tylenol " into the search field on this e-group, a

> page full of posts pop up, similar to the one below. Ponseti is

NOT pain free. His hypocrisy kills me!!!!!

>

> Jody

Jody,

I know you're passionate about the treatment you've discovered, but

so are a lot of us. Calling Dr. Ponseti a hypocrite is not going to

dispose people to listen to you. Expressing your opinion in this way,

you're not going to be a very effective advocate for your method.

A.