Re: CF Parents = Secular list

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,

Please do not take any offense to this - because I don't mean to throw

anything back at you...

I understand that this is a secular list - my question is, are you offended

when someone writes, 'Bless you' or 'I'll be praying for you and your

family'? I am sorry, but since I have been a part of this list nothing

that anyone has written here has every offended me...whether they have been

cuss words or blessed words. I would hope that this is a place where I can

speak my mind (within boundries) and it seems that I have been given that

liberty - except I can't let someone know 'publicly' that they are in my

thoughts and prayers.

" " on 06/10/2000 07:29:43 AM

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please, Please, PLEASE do not post religious content to the list.

Thank you,

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[Guest guest]

What did I miss? I have seen religious content, and much of it at times, on

cystic L but honestly I have rarely seen any of the sort on this list (not to

disagree with you , but I personally haven't seen anything that I

would feel a need to " complain " about)

there are times on cystic-l where it certainly gets a bit heated; perhaps I

missed it all on this list.

Then I also have a question, which is just how far do we go with this?

Example 1, awhile back someone asked why we have so many kids, blah blah

blah.... answer back is that we are Catholic and don't believe in birth

control. Yep, this is a secular list; but believe it or now, the fact that

we are Catholic and have two children with cystic fibrosis has a huge impact

on us since CF is genetic. So, does that mean we can't even say the word

" catholic " on the list in discussing our " family planning " options, for

example? Or that one of our kids just celebrated First Communion (for a

catholic) or Bar mitsva (sorry if spelled wrong) for someone who is Jewish,

which are huge milestones....and even more so for a child with a fatal

genetic disease. Example 2, Grandma Bev often closes with bless you, or

often comments bless you to parents having a hard time, etc. Does the work

" bless " automatically make it religious and therefore off limits?

I am not trying to be picky here; only to ask for clarification. I do know

that on cystic-l if someone seriously violates a rule, Ron sends an email to

them about it; that way, that one person knows they " messed up " . But several

times I think that a number have people have been left wondering if they

messed up because of the general posts sent to the list about it being

secular.

Anyway, maybe I missed a flagrantly religious post and therefore I am in

error....and if so, sorry

Take care,

Jen

[Guest guest]

See the *** below.

> What did I miss? I have seen religious content, and much of it at

times, on

> cystic L but honestly I have rarely seen any of the sort on this

list (not to

> disagree with you , but I personally haven't seen anything

that I

> would feel a need to " complain " about)

***It's okay to disagree with me!

> there are times on cystic-l where it certainly gets a bit heated;

perhaps I

> missed it all on this list.

> Then I also have a question, which is just how far do we go with

this?

> Example 1, awhile back someone asked why we have so many kids, blah

blah

> blah.... answer back is that we are Catholic and don't believe in

birth

> control. Yep, this is a secular list; but believe it or now, the

fact that

> we are Catholic and have two children with cystic fibrosis has a

huge impact

> on us since CF is genetic. So, does that mean we can't even say

the word

> " catholic " on the list in discussing our " family planning " options,

for

*** As far as I'm concerned, " catholic " isn't a dirty word. I don't

care that people talk about what they do (go to church) or what

governs their decisions (religion dictates your family planning)

It is when the " I'll pray for you " or " god is telling me " posts come

through that people are bothered.

> example? Or that one of our kids just celebrated First Communion

(for a

> catholic) or Bar mitsva (sorry if spelled wrong) for someone who is

Jewish,

> which are huge milestones....and even more so for a child with a

fatal

> genetic disease. Example 2, Grandma Bev often closes with bless

you, or

> often comments bless you to parents having a hard time, etc. Does

the work

> " bless " automatically make it religious and therefore off limits?

*** I wrote before that what you put in your signatures is your own

business. Just keep in mind that what others put in their signatures

is also their business.

I still maintain that religion be kept out of the body of the emails,

though. Don't bless me, I'm atheist and find it offensive.

> I am not trying to be picky here;

***Neither am I.

>only to ask for clarification. I do know

> that on cystic-l if someone seriously violates a rule, Ron sends an

email to

> them about it; that way, that one person knows they " messed up " .

***I'm not Ron, I don't even have a beard.

>But several

> times I think that a number have people have been left wondering if

they

> messed up because of the general posts sent to the list about it

being

> secular.

***I have emailed privately those who have " messed up " before. If

you mess up, you'll be notified. Jen, you have never " messed up, " in

fact, you are very thoughtful of others feelings when you write.

Sometimes people do not take into account that there are others with

very different views than their own. You don't seem to be like that

at all (perhaps time in the public eye has trained you to walk on

eggshells???)

> Anyway, maybe I missed a flagrantly religious post and therefore I

am in

> error....and if so, sorry

> Take care,

> Jen

I HOPE I have answered your concerns. If not, I'm sure you (or

someone else) will let me know. If I have, then this would be a good

time to " drop it " and move on.

~