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I'm going to get myself in trouble, I know, but I have to get my $0.02 in.

After seeing the complaints about AMR, RM, and various private services, I'm

glad I live in a city with a municipal third service EMS. If nothing else,

it's reassuring to know that the bottom line isn't the only factor in care

for myself and my loved ones.

Flame away,

Wes

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How do you figure RM let you down? They lost the contract and left town,

and offered every employee bonus's to go with another RM operation. You

chose to stay, reap your rewards and stop whining about it. Step up and

make the service better, it begins at the bottom. Employees make

compliance, not managers.

IMHO

Mike

AMR Arlington

I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in October.

We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

and take care of the City.

As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

make our compliance for February also.

Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

leadership has been horrible.

We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if we

can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

breaking point!

The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

patient care is suffering.

RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

fairly.

Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

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Surely, you must realize that by not revealing your name you have

rendered your entire message inert. These kinds of authorless,

indiscriminate and destructive posts serve only to discredit the entire

EMS industry. If you are a current employee of the aforementioned

company - and the your pain has exceeded your pleasure - .QUIT.

primarymedic wrote:

> I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

> We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in October.

>

> We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

> and take care of the City.

>

> As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

> compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

> make our compliance for February also.

>

> Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

> Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

> leadership has been horrible.

>

> We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

> death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if we

> can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

> breaking point!

>

> The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

> patient care is suffering.

>

> RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

> there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

> fairly.

>

> Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

>

>

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Well said Bob.

Mike

Re: AMR Arlington

Surely, you must realize that by not revealing your name you have

rendered your entire message inert. These kinds of authorless,

indiscriminate and destructive posts serve only to discredit the entire

EMS industry. If you are a current employee of the aforementioned

company - and the your pain has exceeded your pleasure - .QUIT.

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Yes there is a County Opening in Washington County for a Paramedic. Email me

privately if you like. I'm sorry, but this list sever many times is like the pot

calling the kettle black. The bottom blames the top, and the top blames the

bottom. We like the team approach here. We all swim or drown together.

Thanks,

Executive Director

Washington County EMS

AMR Arlington

I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in October.

We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

and take care of the City.

As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

make our compliance for February also.

Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

leadership has been horrible.

We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if we

can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

breaking point!

The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

patient care is suffering.

RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

fairly.

Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

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Mike,

The last sentence in your note is oh so TRUE!!!!

Joby Berkley

AMR Arlington

>

>

> I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

> We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in October.

>

> We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

> and take care of the City.

>

> As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

> compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

> make our compliance for February also.

>

> Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

> Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

> leadership has been horrible.

>

> We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

> death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if we

> can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

> breaking point!

>

> The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

> patient care is suffering.

>

> RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

> there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

> fairly.

>

> Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

>

>

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Ok y'all, let's not go there.

Connie

--- Joby Berkley wrote:

> Mike,

>

> The last sentence in your note is oh so TRUE!!!!

>

> Joby Berkley

>

>

> AMR Arlington

> >

> >

> > I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in

> HUGE trouble!

> > We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> Rural/Metro in October.

> >

> > We were told as employees that AMR would treat

> their employees well

> > and take care of the City.

> >

> > As of today, we are in major breach of the

> contract, we did not make

> > compliance in the first month of operations - we

> probably will not

> > make our compliance for February also.

> >

> > Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas

> and the Manager of

> > Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> going for us. The

> > leadership has been horrible.

> >

> > We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> being worked to

> > death. There is a small group that is talking to

> a union to see if we

> > can organize, but who knows if that will go

> anywhere. We are at our

> > breaking point!

> >

> > The ship is sinking after 3 months of service

> and I am worried that

> > patient care is suffering.

> >

> > RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any

> County jobs out

> > there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I

> am being treated

> > fairly.

> >

> > Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

> >

> >

> >

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primary~ I'm sorry to hear all of that. I kept up

with things there for a while, but it just got too

sad. I think you have the right thought, about going

municipal even with a pay cut. Like someone else said,

it takes on a different look when shareholders don't

fit into the picture. Life is too short to work

somewhere where you don't feel valued.

Good luck to you and your coworkers. And for the

record, I understand perfectly why you didn't sign

your post. :-)

Sincerely, Connie

--- primarymedic wrote:

> I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE

> trouble!

> We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> Rural/Metro in October.

>

> We were told as employees that AMR would treat their

> employees well

> and take care of the City.

>

> As of today, we are in major breach of the contract,

> we did not make

> compliance in the first month of operations - we

> probably will not

> make our compliance for February also.

>

> Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and

> the Manager of

> Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> going for us. The

> leadership has been horrible.

>

> We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> being worked to

> death. There is a small group that is talking to a

> union to see if we

> can organize, but who knows if that will go

> anywhere. We are at our

> breaking point!

>

> The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I

> am worried that

> patient care is suffering.

>

> RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any

> County jobs out

> there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am

> being treated

> fairly.

>

> Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

>

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Are you willing to move to the Austin area?

Austin/ Co. EMS and on Co. EMS

(on Co is immediately north of

Austin/ Co) are two excellent high-speed

progressive systems.

The Austin Fire Department is also accepting

applications, I think, although I'm not sure.

Further information is available at www.wilco.org

(find and click the EMS link) for on Co.

EMS, and at www.ci.austin.tx.us (find and squish

the " fire " link) for Austin FD, or at

www.austinems.com for Austin EMS information.

on Co. EMS and Austin EMS are both

single-role government agency Advanced Life

Support providers, while the Austin Fire

Department is a BLS First Responder Fire

Department. A/TCEMS and WCEMS both cover their

entire respective counties; AFD responds only

within the city limits for the most part.

Good luck and stay safe.

Phil Reynolds Jr.

Austin Fire Department Firefighter/Paramedic

Former Austin EMS Employee

--- primarymedic wrote:

> I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in

> HUGE trouble!

> We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> Rural/Metro in October.

>

> We were told as employees that AMR would treat

> their employees well

> and take care of the City.

>

> As of today, we are in major breach of the

> contract, we did not make

> compliance in the first month of operations -

> we probably will not

> make our compliance for February also.

>

> Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas

> and the Manager of

> Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> going for us. The

> leadership has been horrible.

>

> We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> being worked to

> death. There is a small group that is talking

> to a union to see if we

> can organize, but who knows if that will go

> anywhere. We are at our

> breaking point!

>

> The ship is sinking after 3 months of service

> and I am worried that

> patient care is suffering.

>

> RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there

> any County jobs out

> there? I will take a pay cut just to know that

> I am being treated

> fairly.

>

> Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

>

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The point is that " primarymedic " used this forum to broadcast

unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing on a variety of levels. What

did " primarymedic " hope to achieve, given that no one on this list has

the duty, right or obligation (to say nothing of evidence) to intercede.

Did " primarymedic " file a similar complaint with his employer? Did

" primarymedic " follow the established channels regarding dispute

resolution? Did " primarymedic " petition Arlington city staff to

investigate the complaints or to impose corrective action(s) or

sanctions? Has " primarymedic " exhausted all proper means to resolve

these issues internally? Is " primarymedic " even an employee of the

accused company? Or, could he be a competitor? We don't know.

What we do know is that allegations such as these can be posted by

anyone, at any time and against any service provider. They can have a

serious material effect on those companies and employees who stand

accused.

This forum is not a trial court. Yet, " primarymedic " has chosen us to

hear his allegation of " major " contractual breach. This forum is not a

medical advisory board. Yet, " primarymedic " has opted for us to hear

that he is " worried that patient care is suffering " . This forum is not

the senior corporate staff of the accused company. Yet, " primarymedic "

has chosen us to hear his complaint that " the leadership has been

horrible " .

Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?

connie mundell wrote:

> primary~ I'm sorry to hear all of that. I kept up

> with things there for a while, but it just got too

> sad. I think you have the right thought, about going

> municipal even with a pay cut. Like someone else said,

> it takes on a different look when shareholders don't

> fit into the picture. Life is too short to work

> somewhere where you don't feel valued.

>

> Good luck to you and your coworkers. And for the

> record, I understand perfectly why you didn't sign

> your post. :-)

>

> Sincerely, Connie

>

> --- primarymedic wrote:

> > I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE

> > trouble!

> > We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> > Rural/Metro in October.

> >

> > We were told as employees that AMR would treat their

> > employees well

> > and take care of the City.

> >

> > As of today, we are in major breach of the contract,

> > we did not make

> > compliance in the first month of operations - we

> > probably will not

> > make our compliance for February also.

> >

> > Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and

> > the Manager of

> > Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> > going for us. The

> > leadership has been horrible.

> >

> > We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> > being worked to

> > death. There is a small group that is talking to a

> > union to see if we

> > can organize, but who knows if that will go

> > anywhere. We are at our

> > breaking point!

> >

> > The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I

> > am worried that

> > patient care is suffering.

> >

> > RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any

> > County jobs out

> > there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am

> > being treated

> > fairly.

> >

> > Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Don't lump all private services in one basket. I work for a private

service, make a decent living, and we are meeting the needs of our patients.

Just my .02 worth

C.

Re: AMR Arlington

I'm going to get myself in trouble, I know, but I have to get my $0.02 in.

After seeing the complaints about AMR, RM, and various private services,

I'm

glad I live in a city with a municipal third service EMS. If nothing

else,

it's reassuring to know that the bottom line isn't the only factor in care

for myself and my loved ones.

Flame away,

Wes

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Wes et al- Please don't get too complacent. I've seen " third " , FD based,

private for profit, private non-profit and unpaid volunteer services come

and go over the years. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I wonder,

after 34 years in the business, when we will act as an EMS community on some

cold, hard facts. EMS job security for the individual can be a tenuous

thing. An EMS system can be either hugely successful or abysmmally poor,

regardless of system structure. We must act consistently and continuously to

educate and influence those that have the future of EMS in their hands.

Successful services have done that in their communities. It takes lotsa

money, lotsa united mouths and lotsa time to get and hold the attention of

politicians, both elected and appointed. You can preach excellence as an

individual motivation, and it's true as far as it goes. But excellent

application of excellence requires support and empowerment. Unite and

contribute, folks.

Jay Garner

Re: AMR Arlington

> I'm going to get myself in trouble, I know, but I have to get my $0.02 in.

> After seeing the complaints about AMR, RM, and various private services,

I'm

> glad I live in a city with a municipal third service EMS. If nothing

else,

> it's reassuring to know that the bottom line isn't the only factor in care

> for myself and my loved ones.

>

> Flame away,

> Wes

>

>

>

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Not to be out done Ron. We too have openings for medics. Full time and

part-time. See contact information below.

Henry Barber

216 E. Mahan Street

Port Lavaca, Texas 77979

fax

wrote:

> Yes there is a County Opening in Washington County for a Paramedic.

> Email me privately if you like. I'm sorry, but this list sever many

> times is like the pot calling the kettle black. The bottom blames the

> top, and the top blames the bottom. We like the team approach here. We

> all swim or drown together.

> Thanks,

>

> Executive Director

> Washington County EMS

> AMR Arlington

>

>

> I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

> We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in

> October.

>

> We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

> and take care of the City.

>

> As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

>

> compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

> make our compliance for February also.

>

> Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

> Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

> leadership has been horrible.

>

> We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

> death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if

> we

> can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

> breaking point!

>

> The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

> patient care is suffering.

>

> RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

> there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

> fairly.

>

> Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

>

>

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Jay Garner for president!

Jay Garner wrote:

> Wes et al- Please don't get too complacent. I've seen " third " , FD

> based,

> private for profit, private non-profit and unpaid volunteer services

> come

> and go over the years. I know I'm preaching to the choir, but I

> wonder,

> after 34 years in the business, when we will act as an EMS community

> on some

> cold, hard facts. EMS job security for the individual can be a tenuous

>

> thing. An EMS system can be either hugely successful or abysmmally

> poor,

> regardless of system structure. We must act consistently and

> continuously to

> educate and influence those that have the future of EMS in their

> hands.

> Successful services have done that in their communities. It takes

> lotsa

> money, lotsa united mouths and lotsa time to get and hold the

> attention of

> politicians, both elected and appointed. You can preach excellence as

> an

> individual motivation, and it's true as far as it goes. But excellent

> application of excellence requires support and empowerment. Unite and

> contribute, folks.

> Jay Garner

> Re: AMR Arlington

>

>

> > I'm going to get myself in trouble, I know, but I have to get my

> $0.02 in.

> > After seeing the complaints about AMR, RM, and various private

> services,

> I'm

> > glad I live in a city with a municipal third service EMS. If

> nothing

> else,

> > it's reassuring to know that the bottom line isn't the only factor

> in care

> > for myself and my loved ones.

> >

> > Flame away,

> > Wes

> >

> >

> >

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If ya have enough money, I'll give it a shot.

Jay

Re: AMR Arlington

> >

> >

> > > I'm going to get myself in trouble, I know, but I have to get my

> > $0.02 in.

> > > After seeing the complaints about AMR, RM, and various private

> > services,

> > I'm

> > > glad I live in a city with a municipal third service EMS. If

> > nothing

> > else,

> > > it's reassuring to know that the bottom line isn't the only factor

> > in care

> > > for myself and my loved ones.

> > >

> > > Flame away,

> > > Wes

> > >

> > >

> > >

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So, " primarymedic " , if you have so many problems in Arlington, what would

you do to solve them? What are your solutions? Do you have any, or are you

just preoccupied with complaining? IMHO, any good paramedic should have a

couple of different solutions in mind (if possible) when a problem arises.

Let's see what you can come up with to fix the problems you guys have.

Macara Trusty

>

>Reply-To:

>To:

>Subject: AMR Arlington

>Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:50:02 -0000

>

>I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

>We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in October.

>

>We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

>and take care of the City.

>

>As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

>compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

>make our compliance for February also.

>

>Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

>Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

>leadership has been horrible.

>

>We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

>death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if we

>can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

>breaking point!

>

>The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

>patient care is suffering.

>

>RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

>there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

>fairly.

>

>Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

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I don't see anything wrong with free speech, which is what the internet

provides. However it must moderated to prevent using pieces of the Bill of

Rights as spit wads, and then hiding under Lady Liberty's skirt. Maybe the

feedback this individual is receiving will someway help put things in better

perspective. Maybe after venting, this individual and those that feel they

are in the same boat might be willing to help solve the actual or perceived

problems. A lot of times the first step in figuring a problem out, or

deciding if there is truly a problem is to 'put it out there'. Somehow this

individual perceives there is a problem. Maybe now that the individual sees

responses on differing levels, clarity and objectivity will set in.

Just MY own thoughts - mikey

Bob Kellow wrote:

> The point is that " primarymedic " used this forum to broadcast

> unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing on a variety of levels. What

> did " primarymedic " hope to achieve, given that no one on this list has

> the duty, right or obligation (to say nothing of evidence) to intercede.

>

> Did " primarymedic " file a similar complaint with his employer? Did

> " primarymedic " follow the established channels regarding dispute

> resolution? Did " primarymedic " petition Arlington city staff to

> investigate the complaints or to impose corrective action(s) or

> sanctions? Has " primarymedic " exhausted all proper means to resolve

> these issues internally? Is " primarymedic " even an employee of the

> accused company? Or, could he be a competitor? We don't know.

>

> What we do know is that allegations such as these can be posted by

> anyone, at any time and against any service provider. They can have a

> serious material effect on those companies and employees who stand

> accused.

>

> This forum is not a trial court. Yet, " primarymedic " has chosen us to

> hear his allegation of " major " contractual breach. This forum is not a

> medical advisory board. Yet, " primarymedic " has opted for us to hear

> that he is " worried that patient care is suffering " . This forum is not

> the senior corporate staff of the accused company. Yet, " primarymedic "

> has chosen us to hear his complaint that " the leadership has been

> horrible " .

>

> Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?

>

> connie mundell wrote:

>

> > primary~ I'm sorry to hear all of that. I kept up

> > with things there for a while, but it just got too

> > sad. I think you have the right thought, about going

> > municipal even with a pay cut. Like someone else said,

> > it takes on a different look when shareholders don't

> > fit into the picture. Life is too short to work

> > somewhere where you don't feel valued.

> >

> > Good luck to you and your coworkers. And for the

> > record, I understand perfectly why you didn't sign

> > your post. :-)

> >

> > Sincerely, Connie

> >

> > --- primarymedic wrote:

> > > I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE

> > > trouble!

> > > We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> > > Rural/Metro in October.

> > >

> > > We were told as employees that AMR would treat their

> > > employees well

> > > and take care of the City.

> > >

> > > As of today, we are in major breach of the contract,

> > > we did not make

> > > compliance in the first month of operations - we

> > > probably will not

> > > make our compliance for February also.

> > >

> > > Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and

> > > the Manager of

> > > Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> > > going for us. The

> > > leadership has been horrible.

> > >

> > > We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> > > being worked to

> > > death. There is a small group that is talking to a

> > > union to see if we

> > > can organize, but who knows if that will go

> > > anywhere. We are at our

> > > breaking point!

> > >

> > > The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I

> > > am worried that

> > > patient care is suffering.

> > >

> > > RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any

> > > County jobs out

> > > there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am

> > > being treated

> > > fairly.

> > >

> > > Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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AMR Arlington

> I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE trouble!

> We took over the contract for Paramedics from Rural/Metro in October.

>

> We were told as employees that AMR would treat their employees well

> and take care of the City.

>

> As of today, we are in major breach of the contract, we did not make

> compliance in the first month of operations - we probably will not

> make our compliance for February also.

>

> Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and the Manager of

> Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had going for us. The

> leadership has been horrible.

>

> We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

> death. There is a small group that is talking to a union to see if we

> can organize, but who knows if that will go anywhere. We are at our

> breaking point!

>

> The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I am worried that

> patient care is suffering.

>

> RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any County jobs out

> there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am being treated

> fairly.

>

> Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Points well taken, Mike. However, " primarymedic " did more than exercise

his right to free speech. As justification for seeking new employment,

" primarymedic " is attempting to inflict as much damage as possible. He

said, " We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

death. " What does that mean? According to whose standards? Based on what

evidence?

I would suggest that this person is the antithesis of a " team player "

because he has gone outside the established methods of correcting

internal problems and sought a visceral response from the Texas EMS

community by proclaiming, " ...we need help. Quick. " If just one effect

of posting such a message results in fewer applications for employment,

isn't he creating a self-fulfilling prophecy? Has he no regard for his

co-workers, who he purports are being overworked and treated inhumanely?

For Ron and Henry - beware the Trojan Horse.

Mike Hudson wrote:

> I don't see anything wrong with free speech, which is what the

> internet

> provides. However it must moderated to prevent using pieces of the

> Bill of

> Rights as spit wads, and then hiding under Lady Liberty's skirt.

> Maybe the

> feedback this individual is receiving will someway help put things in

> better

> perspective. Maybe after venting, this individual and those that feel

> they

> are in the same boat might be willing to help solve the actual or

> perceived

> problems. A lot of times the first step in figuring a problem out, or

>

> deciding if there is truly a problem is to 'put it out there'.

> Somehow this

> individual perceives there is a problem. Maybe now that the

> individual sees

> responses on differing levels, clarity and objectivity will set in.

>

> Just MY own thoughts - mikey

>

> Bob Kellow wrote:

>

> > The point is that " primarymedic " used this forum to broadcast

> > unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing on a variety of levels.

> What

> > did " primarymedic " hope to achieve, given that no one on this list

> has

> > the duty, right or obligation (to say nothing of evidence) to

> intercede.

> >

> > Did " primarymedic " file a similar complaint with his employer? Did

> > " primarymedic " follow the established channels regarding dispute

> > resolution? Did " primarymedic " petition Arlington city staff to

> > investigate the complaints or to impose corrective action(s) or

> > sanctions? Has " primarymedic " exhausted all proper means to resolve

> > these issues internally? Is " primarymedic " even an employee of the

> > accused company? Or, could he be a competitor? We don't know.

> >

> > What we do know is that allegations such as these can be posted by

> > anyone, at any time and against any service provider. They can have

> a

> > serious material effect on those companies and employees who stand

> > accused.

> >

> > This forum is not a trial court. Yet, " primarymedic " has chosen us

> to

> > hear his allegation of " major " contractual breach. This forum is not

> a

> > medical advisory board. Yet, " primarymedic " has opted for us to hear

>

> > that he is " worried that patient care is suffering " . This forum is

> not

> > the senior corporate staff of the accused company. Yet,

> " primarymedic "

> > has chosen us to hear his complaint that " the leadership has been

> > horrible " .

> >

> > Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?

> >

> > connie mundell wrote:

> >

> > > primary~ I'm sorry to hear all of that. I kept up

> > > with things there for a while, but it just got too

> > > sad. I think you have the right thought, about going

> > > municipal even with a pay cut. Like someone else said,

> > > it takes on a different look when shareholders don't

> > > fit into the picture. Life is too short to work

> > > somewhere where you don't feel valued.

> > >

> > > Good luck to you and your coworkers. And for the

> > > record, I understand perfectly why you didn't sign

> > > your post. :-)

> > >

> > > Sincerely, Connie

> > >

> > > --- primarymedic wrote:

> > > > I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE

> > > > trouble!

> > > > We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> > > > Rural/Metro in October.

> > > >

> > > > We were told as employees that AMR would treat their

> > > > employees well

> > > > and take care of the City.

> > > >

> > > > As of today, we are in major breach of the contract,

> > > > we did not make

> > > > compliance in the first month of operations - we

> > > > probably will not

> > > > make our compliance for February also.

> > > >

> > > > Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and

> > > > the Manager of

> > > > Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> > > > going for us. The

> > > > leadership has been horrible.

> > > >

> > > > We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> > > > being worked to

> > > > death. There is a small group that is talking to a

> > > > union to see if we

> > > > can organize, but who knows if that will go

> > > > anywhere. We are at our

> > > > breaking point!

> > > >

> > > > The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I

> > > > am worried that

> > > > patient care is suffering.

> > > >

> > > > RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any

> > > > County jobs out

> > > > there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am

> > > > being treated

> > > > fairly.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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We also have immediate openings for Paramedics in Beaumont EMS, a third

service out of the Public Health Department. Starting salary is $11.00 per

hour for 24/48.

Andy Foote

City of Beaumont EMS

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I don't know about you folks but I'm ready for something new. Did anyone attend

the Senate Hearing in Dallas yesterday? How did it go? If you don't want to post

here then email me.

Thanks,

Ron

Re: AMR Arlington

Points well taken, Mike. However, " primarymedic " did more than exercise

his right to free speech. As justification for seeking new employment,

" primarymedic " is attempting to inflict as much damage as possible. He

said, " We cannot staff our units and the employees are being worked to

death. " What does that mean? According to whose standards? Based on what

evidence?

I would suggest that this person is the antithesis of a " team player "

because he has gone outside the established methods of correcting

internal problems and sought a visceral response from the Texas EMS

community by proclaiming, " ...we need help. Quick. " If just one effect

of posting such a message results in fewer applications for employment,

isn't he creating a self-fulfilling prophecy? Has he no regard for his

co-workers, who he purports are being overworked and treated inhumanely?

For Ron and Henry - beware the Trojan Horse.

Mike Hudson wrote:

> I don't see anything wrong with free speech, which is what the

> internet

> provides. However it must moderated to prevent using pieces of the

> Bill of

> Rights as spit wads, and then hiding under Lady Liberty's skirt.

> Maybe the

> feedback this individual is receiving will someway help put things in

> better

> perspective. Maybe after venting, this individual and those that feel

> they

> are in the same boat might be willing to help solve the actual or

> perceived

> problems. A lot of times the first step in figuring a problem out, or

>

> deciding if there is truly a problem is to 'put it out there'.

> Somehow this

> individual perceives there is a problem. Maybe now that the

> individual sees

> responses on differing levels, clarity and objectivity will set in.

>

> Just MY own thoughts - mikey

>

> Bob Kellow wrote:

>

> > The point is that " primarymedic " used this forum to broadcast

> > unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing on a variety of levels.

> What

> > did " primarymedic " hope to achieve, given that no one on this list

> has

> > the duty, right or obligation (to say nothing of evidence) to

> intercede.

> >

> > Did " primarymedic " file a similar complaint with his employer? Did

> > " primarymedic " follow the established channels regarding dispute

> > resolution? Did " primarymedic " petition Arlington city staff to

> > investigate the complaints or to impose corrective action(s) or

> > sanctions? Has " primarymedic " exhausted all proper means to resolve

> > these issues internally? Is " primarymedic " even an employee of the

> > accused company? Or, could he be a competitor? We don't know.

> >

> > What we do know is that allegations such as these can be posted by

> > anyone, at any time and against any service provider. They can have

> a

> > serious material effect on those companies and employees who stand

> > accused.

> >

> > This forum is not a trial court. Yet, " primarymedic " has chosen us

> to

> > hear his allegation of " major " contractual breach. This forum is not

> a

> > medical advisory board. Yet, " primarymedic " has opted for us to hear

>

> > that he is " worried that patient care is suffering " . This forum is

> not

> > the senior corporate staff of the accused company. Yet,

> " primarymedic "

> > has chosen us to hear his complaint that " the leadership has been

> > horrible " .

> >

> > Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture?

> >

> > connie mundell wrote:

> >

> > > primary~ I'm sorry to hear all of that. I kept up

> > > with things there for a while, but it just got too

> > > sad. I think you have the right thought, about going

> > > municipal even with a pay cut. Like someone else said,

> > > it takes on a different look when shareholders don't

> > > fit into the picture. Life is too short to work

> > > somewhere where you don't feel valued.

> > >

> > > Good luck to you and your coworkers. And for the

> > > record, I understand perfectly why you didn't sign

> > > your post. :-)

> > >

> > > Sincerely, Connie

> > >

> > > --- primarymedic wrote:

> > > > I am an employee of AMR Arlington, we are in HUGE

> > > > trouble!

> > > > We took over the contract for Paramedics from

> > > > Rural/Metro in October.

> > > >

> > > > We were told as employees that AMR would treat their

> > > > employees well

> > > > and take care of the City.

> > > >

> > > > As of today, we are in major breach of the contract,

> > > > we did not make

> > > > compliance in the first month of operations - we

> > > > probably will not

> > > > make our compliance for February also.

> > > >

> > > > Two weeks ago, the Vice President or AMR Texas and

> > > > the Manager of

> > > > Arlington quit. They were the only thing we had

> > > > going for us. The

> > > > leadership has been horrible.

> > > >

> > > > We cannot staff our units and the employees are

> > > > being worked to

> > > > death. There is a small group that is talking to a

> > > > union to see if we

> > > > can organize, but who knows if that will go

> > > > anywhere. We are at our

> > > > breaking point!

> > > >

> > > > The ship is sinking after 3 months of service and I

> > > > am worried that

> > > > patient care is suffering.

> > > >

> > > > RM and AMR have let everyone down. Are there any

> > > > County jobs out

> > > > there? I will take a pay cut just to know that I am

> > > > being treated

> > > > fairly.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for the venting but we need help. Quick.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

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I don't know.......$36,700 for a starting salary seems pretty good. Wish I

could pay new hires fresh out of school this much.

In a message dated 2/27/02 7:56:32 PM Central Standard Time, joby@...

writes:

> That's not very high for paramedics.

>

> JB

>

>

> Re: AMR Arlington

>

>

> > We also have immediate openings for Paramedics in Beaumont EMS, a third

> > service out of the Public Health Department. Starting salary is $11.00

> per

> > hour for 24/48.

> >

> > Andy Foote

> > City of Beaumont EMS

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Out of compliance with the contract. When has AMR and RM BEEN in

Compliance? All you have to do is watch the evening news to figure out that

there are problems with response times and compliance with the contract.

Give it some time, maybe it will get better.

L.P.

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I don't know, but almost $37K, with TMRS retirement, vested after 5 years in

Beaumont, Health and Dental for your first six month before you get another

raise, seems quite good to me. No transfers, all 911 calls and freedom to be

a paramedic without restrictions, I love it. This is without OT and who

doesn't work some OT when ur on 24/48's. All of our medics made between 45K

and 65K and they seem quite happy.

Andy

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In a message dated 02/27/2002 11:30:40 PM Central Standard Time,

joby@... writes:

>

> That sounds like a much better packet now. Surely someone will apply for

> this.

>

> Joby Berkley

>

>

We just lost several medics to teaching, nursing and flight programs. Hired

3 new medics last month from Cy-Fair, Montgomery County, and San AMR.

Testing one tomorrow and looking at 2 more candidates from Montgomery

County.

It is a solid system with a chance to practice paramedicine. All 911, no

transfers. Also going to try something new and hire some new grads (LP) and

see if that will work. Formerly required 2 years 911 exp. but maybe we can

train them like we want them. We only hire Paramedics.

Andy

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