Re: cancelled IEP

October 26, 2002

EXCUSE ME?!?!!? They keep a kid from having LUNCH?!?!!? NO WAY!! I'd be

raising holy hell with that one. I wouldn't care what their " rules " are or

whatever. No kid of mine is going without lunch, unless HE decides he

doesn't want to eat. I don't care what the infraction is.

Hope you feel better soon, and really rip someone a new hole.

You don't know how angry I am for you. That's almost as bad as corporal

punishment.

ellen

cancelled IEP

I THOUGHT I had called to cancel Boone's IEP, but apparently they went

ahead and had one without me rather than postponing the damned thing. I have

a nasty case of strep throat.

Where do I begin? With the excuse for an IEP which is ripped into small

shreds at this moment and will be signed over my dead body? Or with the

report that was sent home stating " Boone was not allowed to go to lunch

again today because he didn't finish his work ... "

NO LUNCH?? AGAIN? WHAT THE F***???

Sissi who hasn't yet killed anyone but only because I have a fever of 103.

October 26, 2002

> EXCUSE ME?!?!!? They keep a kid from having LUNCH?!?!!? NO WAY!!

The fact that today is Saturday and everybody at the school was gone

when I got the report yesterday has also added to the responsible

person's life span and possibly saved me from a life of imprisonment.

No wonder the poor kid has regressed.

I've made a decison. I'm not sending him back to school until

everything is resolved.

They will hear from me and my lawyer.

I just can't do this to Boone anymore.

Sissi

October 26, 2002

Good for you!!! It actually borders on child abuse. But again, that's my

opinion, FWIW.

HUGS!!!

ellen

Re: cancelled IEP

> EXCUSE ME?!?!!? They keep a kid from having LUNCH?!?!!? NO WAY!!

The fact that today is Saturday and everybody at the school was gone

when I got the report yesterday has also added to the responsible

person's life span and possibly saved me from a life of imprisonment.

No wonder the poor kid has regressed.

I've made a decison. I'm not sending him back to school until

everything is resolved.

They will hear from me and my lawyer.

I just can't do this to Boone anymore.

Sissi

October 26, 2002

Sissi ~

I am asking you this in an attempt to save your sanity, and keep you from

killing anyone. Is homeschooling an option for you? At this point, I would

really be considering it as an option.

You know, I would be ready to kill someone myself. Personally, I would be going

down to the school, breathing on everyone and giving them strep throat. They

deserve it, and a whole lot worse.

Georga

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Re: cancelled IEP

> EXCUSE ME?!?!!? They keep a kid from having LUNCH?!?!!? NO WAY!!

The fact that today is Saturday and everybody at the school was gone

when I got the report yesterday has also added to the responsible

person's life span and possibly saved me from a life of imprisonment.

No wonder the poor kid has regressed.

I've made a decison. I'm not sending him back to school until

everything is resolved.

They will hear from me and my lawyer.

I just can't do this to Boone anymore.

Sissi

October 26, 2002

Hmmm....

Wonder how much legal trouble the school can get in for this...

Georga

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Re: cancelled IEP

> EXCUSE ME?!?!!? They keep a kid from having LUNCH?!?!!? NO WAY!!

The fact that today is Saturday and everybody at the school was gone

when I got the report yesterday has also added to the responsible

person's life span and possibly saved me from a life of imprisonment.

No wonder the poor kid has regressed.

I've made a decison. I'm not sending him back to school until

everything is resolved.

They will hear from me and my lawyer.

I just can't do this to Boone anymore.

Sissi

October 26, 2002

Oh. My. God.

Your lawyer is going to have a feild day with this...

Get the milk thing in there too.

Let us know what you can when you can.

Feel better!

-Sara.

October 26, 2002

> Where do I begin? With the excuse for an IEP which is ripped into

small shreds at this moment and will be signed over my dead body? Or

with the report that was sent home stating " Boone was not allowed to

go to lunch again today because he didn't finish his work ... "

>

> NO LUNCH?? AGAIN? WHAT THE F***???

>

> Sissi who hasn't yet killed anyone but only because I have a fever

of 103.

>

Sissi, if you're too sick to do it, let me know and I'll come take

them on. I just had a fit on my son's school and told them food is

NEVER to be an issue unless he's throwing it across the room or

smearing it somewhere other than his plate. One of the lunchroom

VOLUNTEERS took another LD kid's sandwich and threw it in the trash

because he ate his chocolate first. EXCUSE ME??? I ever find out

she's done something like that to my kids and I'll put her in the

trash.

How dare they withhold Boone's food?????? Are they being petty

because of the milk issue?

Tina

*who is still fighting the school district and talking to the state

about the principle's behavior at her son's school*

October 26, 2002

>>>>>Sissi Garvey wrote:

I THOUGHT I had called to cancel Boone's IEP, but apparently they went ahead and

had one without me rather than postponing the damned thing. I have a nasty case

of strep throat. <<<<<

Oh hon. that's awful.

>>>>>Where do I begin? With the excuse for an IEP which is ripped into small

shreds at this moment and will be signed over my dead body? <<<<<

Oh hell

>>>>>Or with the report that was sent home stating " Boone was not allowed to go

to lunch again today because he didn't finish his work ... " <<<<<<<

WHAT THE HELL.. They refused a child FOOD because he didn't finish his work???

OMG Sissi, I'm so sorry, that is just awful.

>>>>>NO LUNCH?? AGAIN? WHAT THE F***???

Sissi who hasn't yet killed anyone but only because I have a fever of 103.<<<<<<

Sissi, I hope you get some answers.

Ali

October 26, 2002

Legal field day with this one Sissi. I totally agree with keeping

him home until this is resolved. Withholding food is a form of

corporal punishment and is abusive. They also cannot hold the IEP

meeting without you even if you hadn't called to cancel unless they

have made repeated attempts to have one with you and have not had any

response at all. Go sic your lawyer on them!!! And you take your

meds and a nap. Feel better soon. (((hugs)))

October 26, 2002

Sissi, I think this is a very wise choice. Boone doen't need this s**t and

neither do you.

FWIW if I had $$$$ I would come over and kick butt for you.

Ali

>>>>>No wonder the poor kid has regressed.

I've made a decison. I'm not sending him back to school until

everything is resolved.

They will hear from me and my lawyer.

I just can't do this to Boone anymore.

Sissi<<<<<<

October 26, 2002

Another thing about yesterday. Boone went to sleep as soon as he got home

yfrom school. He slept until suppertime. After he ate, he immediately went

back to sleep. He slept all night until 8 a.m this morning. This is soooo

not like Boone, but he could be sick too, I just don't know. He's not acting

very sick today.

I was really worried. I mean really, really worried. He seems fine now and I

don't know what to make of it.

Sissi

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October 26, 2002

> Hmmm....

> Wonder how much legal trouble the school can get in for this...

>

> Georga

Unfortunately they won't....

Because they documented ( by sending her a note home )saying he

didn't not follow a direction ( finishing the work) and the

consequence ( not going to lunch till it is done)was given, and the

direction was not followed, they unfortunatley are within their legal

rights to follow through with this consquence.

To ensure this can never happen again or there WILL be legal recourse

if it does, Sissi must document to the team that this is

unacceptable, that him missing lunch or going to lunch late can NEVER

be a consquence. Without this documentation there is nothing that can

be done execpt complaining.

Sorry to be the messenger of such unfortunate news. I am so sorry

Boone missed his lunch and that they are giving you such a hard time.

I hope it gets better

Amy mom to

Noah 6 Lucas 8 ASD's

October 26, 2002

I have NEVER heard of a school not letting a kid eat because of this or that.

Not going out to recess on the other hand is used a lot.

I think that there should be some legal recourse here.

Think about it. If you or I decided to send a child to bed without dinner for

something and the neighbor found out they could call child protective services

and there would be an investigation into abuse/neglect for not feeding the

child.

How come that rule applies for us and not schools?

Serious here.

Where there may not be a " law " about it, I think that taking it to court (yes,

pain in the ass thing here) on a charge of abuse by the teacher would cause a

lot of problems for the school, the teacher, and the district/county. This

could also be approached as a discrimination thing. I mean, the school has

documentation that Boone is autistic. Being autistic there have to be

allowances made, these kids can't be expected to be like the NT kids, and behave

exactally like them (this is why there are IEPs, this is why Tony Attwood is

advoacting either no homework or homeschooling for children with Aspergers

Syndrome). This can be seen as discrimination. So he didn't finish his work.

The child either stays after school to do it, gets sent home with it and the

parent has to sign that it was done, or the child does not go out for recess.

Not feeding a child, that under IDEA, is handicapped because of a disablity that

prevents him from doing something, is ABUSE.

This is something that I seriously think can be fought. The problem is, *MOST*

parents don't want the hassle of fighting the school, questioning the teachers,

etc. They want very little involvement in the education process.

Georga

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Re: cancelled IEP

> Hmmm....

> Wonder how much legal trouble the school can get in for this...

>

> Georga

Unfortunately they won't....

Because they documented ( by sending her a note home )saying he

didn't not follow a direction ( finishing the work) and the

consequence ( not going to lunch till it is done)was given, and the

direction was not followed, they unfortunatley are within their legal

rights to follow through with this consquence.

To ensure this can never happen again or there WILL be legal recourse

if it does, Sissi must document to the team that this is

unacceptable, that him missing lunch or going to lunch late can NEVER

be a consquence. Without this documentation there is nothing that can

be done execpt complaining.

Sorry to be the messenger of such unfortunate news. I am so sorry

Boone missed his lunch and that they are giving you such a hard time.

I hope it gets better

Amy mom to

Noah 6 Lucas 8 ASD's

October 26, 2002

I don't know if it's legal or not, but I know this -- IT'S WRONG!

I have a " modified discipline plan " for Boone which is part of his IEP. This

is the second violation of the IEP (that I am aware of). I just can't let

them do this to him anymore. They're turning him into the most miserable kid

I've ever known.

Now they're complaining about hius behavior. I get a page full of complaints

about his behavior every school day.

They have consistently denied he is a behavior problem. Now he's suddenly a

behavior problem. They can't have it both ways. They can't continue to deny

behavioral therapy and while saying his behavior is a problem.

I'm going to sue. Even if I have to get a second mortgage on the house, I

have no choice at this point. I guess I could move to another state. But you

know, that's not really realistic.

Sissi

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Boone's Art Page

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Re: Re: cancelled IEP

> I have NEVER heard of a school not letting a kid eat because of this or

that. Not going out to recess on the other hand is used a lot.

>

> I think that there should be some legal recourse here.

> Think about it.

October 26, 2002

--

I have never heard of being denied lunch as a punishment for not

completing work. I mean its not even a behavioral issue necessarily.

If a kid a school doesnt do the work, the usual protocal, not to

give a good grade or reward or whatever. I can also see no recess

being used as well( which im not so keen on either, since young

children-disabled or not need to get a break for their health). The

first or second time a kid doesnt do the work, they should inform

the parent that there seems to be a problem. You may be punishing a

kid when something out of their control is happening.The kid could

be tired or sick or whatever. To put it simply, it sounds like a

bad teacher. Furthermore it could be a bad school. It just seems

like these things become a vicious cycle, how do they expect a kid

to work in a setting where theyre basic needs are not being met. Id

say theres a lawsuit here. Not having a parent informed/participate

in an IEP meeting is definitely illegal.

Thea

- In parenting_autism@y..., " Amy " <haleigh_anna4u@y...> wrote:

>

> > Hmmm....

> > Wonder how much legal trouble the school can get in for this...

> >

> > Georga

>

> Unfortunately they won't....

>

> Because they documented ( by sending her a note home )saying he

> didn't not follow a direction ( finishing the work) and the

> consequence ( not going to lunch till it is done)was given, and

the

> direction was not followed, they unfortunatley are within their

legal

> rights to follow through with this consquence.

>

> To ensure this can never happen again or there WILL be legal

recourse

> if it does, Sissi must document to the team that this is

> unacceptable, that him missing lunch or going to lunch late can

NEVER

> be a consquence. Without this documentation there is nothing that

can

> be done execpt complaining.

>

> Sorry to be the messenger of such unfortunate news. I am so sorry

> Boone missed his lunch and that they are giving you such a hard

time.

> I hope it gets better

>

> Amy mom to

> Noah 6 Lucas 8 ASD's

October 26, 2002

Just for the record, everything that I have found so far states, by law, that

withholding of food is neglect and can be considered cruel and unusual