Re: Body Healing Itself (Was: Hi All !)

[Guest guest]

There are books about the body healing itself. I know of one author, Gregg

Braden, who talks about the miracles of the body healing itself in terms of

quantum physics and spirituality. It is not a religious book, more new-age-y,

but the science is beginning to coincide with these beliefs. His book is called

" The Spontaneous Healing of Belief " and is available pretty much anywhere books

are sold (e.g., & Noble, Borders, Amazon, eBay, Alibris, etc.).

This book talks about mind over matter, and how the body can heal itself if you

believe it can. However, I think it is also important to note that the mind can

only do so much, and I think that we cannot (and should not) depend solely on

our minds to heal our pains. As someone said, the mind can only block out so

much pain before it begins to wear on us. Someone also mentioned blackouts

because of pain.

Bottom line, I think it would be a good read, although its claims should be

taken with a grain of salt (as in, trust your medical professionals and the

research that *does* exist, and conduct a thorough search of available

treatments yourself, before putting all your faith into what this--or

any--author claims). I have not yet read the book myself, but it is on my

to-read list.

I hope this helps someone.

e.h.

> Desert Fire wrote:

> So they only had to put one stint inside instead of three. Sometimes our

bodies do decide to fix itself.

[Guest guest]

miracle

All:

I have been good girl as I have tried to keep my fingers from typing what I am

going to so please receive it with love. I myself have seen an incident I called

a miracle in my life. My Doctors told me I could not have kids and one percent,

I had my son, a miracle but not the one I said before but will not share that

one because it is controversial.

I have seen survivor shows that people should be dead but somehow are alive, I

lost eight units of blood when my son was born and by artery was burst, miracle

or some good care eventually?

I had a near death experience with this and it was quite pleasant and I did see

myself outside my body with a blood pressure machine that registered 70/40,

there was a warm tanning type light or floating on an air mattress in a swimming

pool. I was in shock

E. Hyland wrote:

> There are books about the body healing itself. I know of one author, Gregg

Braden, who talks about the miracles of the body healing itself in terms of

quantum physics and spirituality. It is not a religious book, more new-age-y,

but the science is beginning to coincide with these beliefs. His book is called

" The Spontaneous Healing of Belief " and is available pretty much anywhere books

are sold (e.g., & Noble, Borders, Amazon, eBay, Alibris, etc.).

>

> This book talks about mind over matter, and how the body can heal itself if

you believe it can. However, I think it is also important to note that the mind

can only do so much, and I think that we cannot (and should not) depend solely

on our minds to heal our pains. As someone said, the mind can only block out so

much pain before it begins to wear on us. Someone also mentioned blackouts

because of pain.

>

> Bottom line, I think it would be a good read, although its claims should be

taken with a grain of salt (as in, trust your medical professionals and the

research that *does* exist, and conduct a thorough search of available

treatments yourself, before putting all your faith into what this--or

any--author claims). I have not yet read the book myself, but it is on my

to-read list.

>

> I hope this helps someone.

>

> e.h.

[Guest guest]

A few year ago, my regular doctor freaked out when she noticed that my heart was

considerably larger than she felt was normal. Being that I'm heavy, have

chronic pain (little exercise) and a family history of diabetes and heart

disease, she sent me to a cardiologist.

They first did a stress test, which was interesting because they couldn't get my

heart rate up to what they needed, even speeding up the treadmill and adding

more incline. They finally got it up to the required level after almost 45

minutes (I thought I was going to die from the pain), it reached 1 point above

what they needed.

The cardiologist was shocked to learn that despite being 3 times larger than

normal and all my other issues, including a prolapsed

mitrovalve, my stress test was that of a 25 year old (I'm 42) at perfect

weight.

Due to the other issues, they sent me to a place to have a test

done which they thread a camera up through the femoral artery to " see " the

heart. What they found made the cardiac surgeon have me sign a release so he

could use it to show others. My heart had weakening in several major

veins/arteries, but it RE-ROUTED itself to others to by-pass the damaged

veins/arteries.

The doctor said that for some reason, my stem cells were re-working themselves

to fulfill my bodies needs. It's not unusual for

children to do this, but for a 40 year old woman, it's remarkable apparently.

I'm not sure what the scientific terms were, but

that was the gist of it: the vein/artery (can't remember which in

particular) was damaged, so my body re-routed it and the damaged one died off.

There were 7 cardiac guys that insisted on coming in to see the results while I

was there.

Marta

> E. H. wrote:

> There are books about the body healing itself.

[Guest guest]

All,

I have also had a near death experience, as well as an out of body

experience. The near death experience was incredible, and the out of body

experience was interesting. I am very lucky to be alive also; I definitely

consider it a miracle that I am. Because I " should " be dead, but I am not.

Also, my uncle should be dead also, but he is alive. This is also another

miracle in my and in my family's opinions.

I guess whether or not something is a miracle may be dependent on one's

perspective. Even if one doesn't believe in miracles, however, it is still

reasonable to agree that there is a lot of " luck " involved. I personally do

believe in miracles, and in fate. But that's just me. I know that there are a

lot of differing opinions in the world, and on this list, and I do respect them

all.

Thank you for sharing your experience, Bennie. It really touched me. :-)

> Bennie wrote:

> I myself have seen an incident I called a miracle in my life.

[Guest guest]

H. wrote:

> I guess whether or not something is a miracle may be dependent on one's

perspective. Even if one doesn't believe in miracles, however, it is still

reasonable to agree that there is a lot of " luck " involved. I personally do

believe in miracles, and in fate. But that's just me. I know that there are a

lot of differing opinions in the world, and on this list, and I do respect them

all.

I'm glad you respect all the opinions :-) I've been clinically dead

twice - no out of body anythings - absolutely nothing. It was like no

time passed.

Like Bennie, I was never supposed to have kids, but managed to have two.

I'd have bled to death with the first one, if it hadn't been for the

good people who donate blood and the medical people, who had learned how

to administer it and how to stop the bleeding.

I used to be quite spiritually inclined, but as I got older and read

more and travelled more, I realized I no longer believed in higher

beings. Throughout my life, I had only been going by what I had been

taught to believe by my parents, who had been taught the same by their

parents. I truly enjoy being on my own path.

I figure that coincidences will always be coincidences. :-)

Lyndi

[Guest guest]

You hold the key to eliminating the need for bypass surgeries.

Jennette

>Marta wrote:

>Due to the other issues, they sent me to a place to have a test

done which they thread a camera up through the femoral artery to " see " the

heart. What they found made the cardiac surgeon have me

sign a release so he could use it to show others. My heart had weakening in

several major veins/arteries, but it RE-ROUTED itself

to others to by-pass the damaged veins/arteries.

>The doctor said that for some reason, my stem cells were re-working themselves

to fulfill my bodies needs. It's not unusual for

children to do this, but for a 40 year old woman, it's remarkable apparently.

[Guest guest]

>Marta wrote:

> My heart had weakening in several major veins/arteries, but it RE-ROUTED

itself to others to by-pass the damaged veins/arteries.

>

> The doctor said that for some reason, my stem cells were re-working themselves

to fulfill my bodies needs. It's not unusual for

> children to do this, but for a 40 year old woman, it's remarkable apparently.

I'm not sure what the scientific terms were, but

> that was the gist of it: the vein/artery (can't remember which in

> particular) was damaged, so my body re-routed it and the damaged one died off.

There were 7 cardiac guys that insisted on coming in to see the results while I

was there.

Marta,

The body is an amazing thing and researchers used to think that the nerves could

not regenerate, the brain compensate when one side id damaged.

I have been lucky enough to see some of this. I mean, if people do not mind

maggots (they are sterilized) placed in open wounds that they have been told

their skin would not grow back together, they have laid down skin and filled it

in and healed.

I am a curious person and know there is someone out there that will say, Bennie

you have that piece of herniated disc lying on a irritated nerve and I just

called their office, they left at 4:30 but they got a very " blunt " message. The

ER doctor said I can't believe you neugosurgeon did not do a complete evaluation

EMG, bone scan etc and I did the research and he is right so some " young nurse "

will be running around tomorrow saying " Ms is calling, doesn't she get

it "

Well, I always try to respect them but when I ask some of his young staff where

they trained, " They giggle and state : advertising etc, something that has

nothing to do wit the medical field.

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-06-biomaterial-aids-nerve-regeneration.html

has some really neat information on nerve regeneration and other spinal repairs.

My left eye compensated for my rt eye for years but the eye doctor said I wore

it down. Oh well, I keep reading.

Bennie

[Guest guest]

> Lyndi wrote:

> I figure that coincidences will always be coincidences. :-)

Lyndi,

This series " Wormhole theories " or whatever with Freeman is really

interesting giving perspectives about the metaphysical, physics and other

communities. It has shown some research on the brain that really amazed me. I

had known about the primitive brain and it touches on some people who regrow

parts of their brain (my layperson explanation) Through the Wormhole with

Freeman: God Theories:

http://www.ndespace.org/video/through-the-wormhole-with

Now, for all the religions, I have to respect wherever I live and when I lived

in Japan and a young woman stated they practice Christianity, they gave presents

at Christmas, I said that was charitable . When my housekeeper who was in her

70's put water and food out in front of my cat's urn when he died as she said he

would need it for his journey to the beyond, I allowed it to be there forty

days.

I did also rub the Fertility God's Buddha belly (and got pregnant a month later

after ten year of trying) had two calls for adoption but would have to stayed

five years longer and I wanted to go home. I would not worship at the shrines

or jangle the rope, as I do not believe that way but respect those who did.

I thought I had made an international incident as I took a picture of one of the

monk in passing and they believe it takes their spirit away.

Did I say, Oh God save me when that guy pulled out in front of me and have spent

many nights " Thinking of many of you on this group " Okay, I prayed for you Lyndi

and if you don't like it, well just " give me a hug " lol. I believe in "

miracles " , one of them is that I found this group and the woman, who is very

busy, and may not read this, saved me. She would e-mail me nightly and encourage

me and daily and make sure my job was not harassing me too much and also sent

here love and sincere wishes for me to do well, an it meant the world to m as I

didn't care if I lived or not and really I am worth more dead than alive.

I have seen a couple of really strange things that i will never know why they

happened. Won't share them here as i know you guys already think I am nuts, but

this world is awesome. I have asked the question to some in this group, Do you

fly and those that do, know what I mean. I have not done in it in a long time

but wish I would.

I blurted that out in an open room somewhere I had gone for a meeting and about

four people said, " Oh wow, you mean you do also ? " The rest just made sure

they did not sit by us the rest of the meeting.

This wormhole program this weekend showed some physicists proving the mind can

emit neurons that others can accept to move numbers also, so Lyndi, I sure wish

you would send those feeling lucky Lotto numbers, Ha. While you are at it, move

my hardware where it won't hurt. Bennie

*Most recently when I went to my Dads to care from him, he lives on a farm with

no street lights and you can seem like you can reach and touch the stars and

this " satellite " as my Dad calls it always seems to smaller and then larger and

then repeats this process.

I logically explained this to my husband and asked him to look it up on the NASA

night skies or other internet sites and he couldn't locate it and he is nerd,

objective to a fault, but when he came to pick me up and went out at night and

my Dad showed him " that there " satellite, my husband immediately wanted to go in

the house.

Call King, Lyndi. Bennie

[Guest guest]

I'm not a Christian, though I respect everyone's religion, especially since

almost every religion boils down to the same thing: treat others as you want to

be treated, what you do has consequences, etc. Though I separate religion from

other things (Empathy, Mediumship, telepathy, lucid dreaming and OBEs), I have a

vast curiosity about many things. I guess I'm a " nook " sorta person, who puts

different things in little nooks. For instance, while I'm a Pagan, I don't

feel that my other abilities are connected to my

religion, though I use them in my worship sometimes.

I think that you really never start to grow old until you stop learning. And my

tastes are eclectic, I love learning about things, even if they are not

" normal " , LOL.

Marta

> Lyndi wrote:

> I figure that coincidences will always be coincidences. :-)