Re: cp attitudes

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> Desert Fire wrote:

> I certainly understand being a positive person, yet the light is beginning to

fade. I am upbeat, some say too positive, I always have believed the mind is a

powerful thing and with the right focus pain can even diminish its power. Yet

this last month that perception is beginning to not hold as much power it once

did. I have found out a new disability that has taken its toll on me, something

is very wrong with nerve and bones going from my left hip to my lumbar part of

> my spine. I see a different pain specialist on the fourth of August

>> Kitty wrote:

>> Honestly, I'm a pretty positive person, but my sunshine-y outlook is fading

All,

When I broke down at my pain management doctors office, she did nothing to stop

me from crying or lecture me on requesting pain meds, handling pain, she let me

vent and say " I am so ANGRY, SO ANGRY " No self help, mind control, shrink,

friend, family or anyone should stop you from venting so you can let it out and

say, " Well, you must use you imagery, mind control, positive attitude, faith,

maintain your power to heal " as your body is saying EMOTE, you are hurting, get

something done, help us.

The flight or fight and I do not have many holes but frankly do not care to deal

with many people who do not want to assist me in getting better as I don't have

the time or energy for them, I have to do do this for me.

I believe 240/124 is a strong signal from the brain that states pain and I do

not look physically in pain, maybe irritated but one thing I can and I believe

others who experience pain can tell if others are in pain if you look in their

eyes. They will tell you and my recent ER visit with the dingbat Nurse before

getting the good nurses, needs to take a extensive course in that.

Off topic as fun (as much fun as we could have) remember when we shared answers

which we could say when they ask to describe our pain or tell us how we " feel "

after the dueling pain control.

Desert Fire, don't cheat yourself and stay " too positive " if you are hurting,

say I am hurting like hell as if you took a knife and skinned me inside out and

did not give me and lidocaine. I may use unusual analogies but being from the

military background there are not too many men who have rpg or have been impaled

that are singing " Show tunes or Hip Hop " and worrying about if they ave the

right focus .

The mind is a powerful thing but the pain receptor substance P that research is

blaming for some intractable pain patients getting their pain gate stuck open

and no manner, happy mantras, faith will close that gate without pushing it

close and we have not found it yet as the neuro brain transmitters are hard to

tag with dyes that we can trace,find the chemical composition to have some kind

of chemical or enzyme bulldozer to close the gate and stop those millions of

neuro transmitters sending pain impulses for real or somatic pain.

As I said, learning all you can is empowering and if you can start with :

Theories on pain, acute, chronic, and intractable.

This group has developed great archives or you can research for yourself. I had

a lot of time to research at Washington University, Jewish, Hospital

while I was doing my clinicals and was doing my psychiatric clinics at the same

time. I was only just starting with back pain and I was in an advanced Nursing

program even though I was working as a case manager so everything or anything I

learned assisted me.

The most interesting seminar I was able to attend was held at the Chicago Brain

Institute and it was to be on identifying serotonin with PET Scans as these were

beginning to reflect pre and post depression treatment which gave documentation

to verifying administrating Serotonin can reduce Depression. We could not tag

the other brain chemical neurotransmitters yet as we had not find out how to so

we did not know if increasing norepinephrin or