Re: Inventorytaking, the curse of

[Guest guest]

Well put Joe... I almost busted a skirt zipper I was laughing so hard.

I did remind her gently that she was taking my inventory by pointing

out that I mustn't take other people's inventory. Ahhh.... the great

infinite loop of idiocy. I usually rebuttle such comments by pointing

out that the profession of newscasting and journalism is all about

taking inventories and making them public. Do they suggest that we

abolish such practices as well?

Apple

>

> Hi Apple- a remarkable email if you think about it. It is this kind

of

> thing that suggests that some followers of the 12 steps are

perilously

> close to being total idiots. Some people really don't understand that

the

> idea of " not taking people's inventories " is only a tenet of the 12

steps,

> and hardly something that someone who does not practise the 12 steps

can be

> chastised for not doing. That is like criticising a Hindu for not

attending

> confession- it is a total irrelevance. That criticism, when applied

to you,

> is just nonsense, since " not taking peoples' inventories " is not part

of

> your philosophy in the first place. Not to mention the fact that in

> complaining that you were taking other peoples' inventories, she was

taking

> your inventory, which she at least as a religious stepper is supposed

not

> to do. I hereby award that woman the Wooden Brain award for

significant

> achievement in the field of stupidity. She may collect it in a week

or so

> when I have had it carved from a block of birdseye maple.

>

> Joe B.

>

[Guest guest]

Would someone explain to me what taking inventory means? Is it the the same

thing as the concept I learned about dont focus on other peoples problems

focus on yourself?

Louree

[Guest guest]

I hereby award that woman the Wooden Brain award for significant

achievement in the field of stupidity. She may collect it in a week or so

when I have had it carved from a block of birdseye maple.

Joe B.

Sorry Joe,

But I have a bitch with you now. How could you waist such a great piece

of wood on someone like that? Use naughty pine, she probably needs her

brain aired out anyway.

Mike M

[Guest guest]

finally..

Taking/not taking Inventory is a made-up concept.

Drop the AA mindset, drop the 12-step language tunnel.

Behaviors, problems and traits of a person are not akin to cans or car

parts in a warehouse.

Who is to say that critique of another individual or group is " wrong? "

How is critique related to the issue of alcohol dependence and abuse,

and by what scientific or rational connection?

Becuase Bill , a depressive, sexist, sexual predator, business

failure, liar, cult member, grandiose x-drunk said so?

Maybe we can also include dropping " Sober " from the lexicon where Sober

is incorrectly used to mean Dry or Abstinent.

Sober means [par.] " not intoxicated, moderate. " Sober absolutely does

not mean Abstinent.

There are a lot of sober people. There are a lot of Dry people.

There are also a lot of sober people who Drink alcohol.

-G

appledt-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12861

> Well put Joe... I almost busted a skirt zipper I was laughing so

hard.

> I did remind her gently that she was taking my inventory by pointing

> out that I mustn't take other people's inventory. Ahhh.... the great

> infinite loop of idiocy. I usually rebuttle such comments by pointing

> out that the profession of newscasting and journalism is all about

> taking inventories and making them public. Do they suggest that we

> abolish such practices as well?

> Apple

> >

> > Hi Apple- a remarkable email if you think about it. It is this kind

> of

> > thing that suggests that some followers of the 12 steps are

> perilously

> > close to being total idiots. Some people really don't understand

that

> the

> > idea of " not taking people's inventories " is only a tenet of the 12

> steps,

> > and hardly something that someone who does not practise the 12 steps

> can be

> > chastised for not doing. That is like criticising a Hindu for not

> attending

> > confession- it is a total irrelevance. That criticism, when applied

> to you,

> > is just nonsense, since " not taking peoples' inventories " is not

part

> of

> > your philosophy in the first place. Not to mention the fact that in

> > complaining that you were taking other peoples' inventories, she was

> taking

> > your inventory, which she at least as a religious stepper is

supposed

> not

> > to do. I hereby award that woman the Wooden Brain award for

> significant

> > achievement in the field of stupidity. She may collect it in a week

> or so

> > when I have had it carved from a block of birdseye maple.

> >

> > Joe B.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/1/00 1:22:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, gprice@...

writes:

> Taking/not taking Inventory is a made-up concept.

>

> Drop the AA mindset, drop the 12-step language tunnel.

Although I am a current member of AA and agree with much of their philosophy,

I am not one of those " Big Book Thumpers " who are hurting AA and potential

members by their intolerance and irrational resistance to change.

A great paradox in AA sayings is, " Stick with the Winners "

" Don't take anyone's Inventory.

Hard to do the first one without a little inventory taking.

As far as this talk about a cult goes, I believe there may be some of that,

but it depends on the people and the group. The meetings I go to and the

friends I have are not afraid to question the orthodoxy and is something in

the Big Book is not agreed with, members will state their feelings during our

Big Book meetings.

I know this is not the case everywhere. There are these groups who take

everything Joe and Charlie say as gospel. Here in NY they are called " Big

Book Study Groups. " The few I went to reminded me of the brainwashing that

was prevalent in Therapeutic Communities.

I'm lucky I came into AA when I did with a sponsor who was tolerant and

didn't push anything on me.

Sometimes I feel that it is imperative for people like me to stay around and

counterbalance the garbage that these holy rollers are dishing out to

newcomers.

It they have made some inroads in NYC, I can only imagine what meetings must

be like in places where the Christian Right is powerful. I don't think I

would feel too comfortable at a meeting in Alabama or Mississippi.

[Guest guest]

At 12:37 PM 2/28/00 -0700, Snazy wrote:

>Would someone explain to me what taking inventory means? Is it the the same

>thing as the concept I learned about dont focus on other peoples problems

>focus on yourself?

>

>Louree

Yes, very much so - it comes from step 4, " ...made a searching and fearless

moral inventory of ourselves " . The instruction from AA is that alcoholics

(or AA members) are to " take their own inventories " , look at their own faults,

and not at the faults of others.

-----

http://listen.to/benbradley

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe

AAs get so brainwashed they seem to think that *everybody* has signed

up - or at est anyone who talks abt AA hs. In a debate on a list abt

whether AA is religious, one guy wrote me saying " Remember our Traditon

to not bring AA into controversy. " !

P.

" joe b. " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12860

>

> Hi Apple- a remarkable email if you think about it. It is this kind

of

> thing that suggests that some followers of the 12 steps are

perilously

> close to being total idiots. Some people really don't understand that

the

> idea of " not taking people's inventories " is only a tenet of the 12

steps,

> and hardly something that someone who does not practise the 12 steps

can be

> chastised for not doing. That is like criticising a Hindu for not

attending

> confession- it is a total irrelevance. That criticism, when applied

to you,

> is just nonsense, since " not taking peoples' inventories " is not part

of

> your philosophy in the first place. Not to mention the fact that in

> complaining that you were taking other peoples' inventories, she was

taking

> your inventory, which she at least as a religious stepper is supposed

not

> to do. I hereby award that woman the Wooden Brain award for

significant

> achievement in the field of stupidity. She may collect it in a week

or so

> when I have had it carved from a block of birdseye maple.

>

> Joe B.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi apple,

when I criticised a soap opera on addict-l for being soft on AA, a

grouper wrote telling me it was unfair to criticise it when the

scriptwriter wasnt there to defend himself!

P.

appledt-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12861

> Well put Joe... I almost busted a skirt zipper I was laughing so

hard.

> I did remind her gently that she was taking my inventory by pointing

> out that I mustn't take other people's inventory. Ahhh.... the great

> infinite loop of idiocy. I usually rebuttle such comments by pointing

> out that the profession of newscasting and journalism is all about

> taking inventories and making them public. Do they suggest that we

> abolish such practices as well?

> Apple

[Guest guest]

AMEN!

I have seen it claimed that all abstinence-based professional

counsellors use the word " sober " to mean " abstinent " but I'm not sure I

believe it - it is very likely not true in the UK. Even it is true, it

just shows that the abstinence-based ppl generally are infected with AA

speak. To my dismay, I saw recently that Albert Ellis of RET fame has

invented a rapprochement with 12-step and is advertising it in seminars

- he's sleeping with the enemy.

P.

" george price " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12874

> finally..

>

> Taking/not taking Inventory is a made-up concept.

>

> Drop the AA mindset, drop the 12-step language tunnel.

>

> Behaviors, problems and traits of a person are not akin to cans or car

> parts in a warehouse.

>

> Who is to say that critique of another individual or group is

" wrong? "

> How is critique related to the issue of alcohol dependence and abuse,

> and by what scientific or rational connection?

>

> Becuase Bill , a depressive, sexist, sexual predator, business

> failure, liar, cult member, grandiose x-drunk said so?

>

> Maybe we can also include dropping " Sober " from the lexicon where

Sober

> is incorrectly used to mean Dry or Abstinent.

>

> Sober means [par.] " not intoxicated, moderate. " Sober absolutely does

> not mean Abstinent.

>

> There are a lot of sober people. There are a lot of Dry people.

> There are also a lot of sober people who Drink alcohol.

> -G

>

>

> appledt-@... wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=128

61

> > Well put Joe... I almost busted a skirt zipper I was laughing so

> hard.

> > I did remind her gently that she was taking my inventory by pointing

> > out that I mustn't take other people's inventory. Ahhh.... the

great

> > infinite loop of idiocy. I usually rebuttle such comments by

pointing

> > out that the profession of newscasting and journalism is all about

> > taking inventories and making them public. Do they suggest that we

> > abolish such practices as well?

> > Apple

> > >

> > > Hi Apple- a remarkable email if you think about it. It is this

kind

> > of

> > > thing that suggests that some followers of the 12 steps are

> > perilously

> > > close to being total idiots. Some people really don't understand

> that

> > the

> > > idea of " not taking people's inventories " is only a tenet of the

12

> > steps,

> > > and hardly something that someone who does not practise the 12

steps

> > can be

> > > chastised for not doing. That is like criticising a Hindu for not

> > attending

> > > confession- it is a total irrelevance. That criticism, when

applied

> > to you,

> > > is just nonsense, since " not taking peoples' inventories " is not

> part

> > of

> > > your philosophy in the first place. Not to mention the fact that

in

> > > complaining that you were taking other peoples' inventories, she

was

> > taking

> > > your inventory, which she at least as a religious stepper is

> supposed

> > not

> > > to do. I hereby award that woman the Wooden Brain award for

> > significant

> > > achievement in the field of stupidity. She may collect it in a

week

> > or so

> > > when I have had it carved from a block of birdseye maple.

> > >

> > > Joe B.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hello

Thankyou for admitting you are an AA. This isnt a debating group, or

even 12-step neutral - it is 12-step FREE. I dont like seeing AA

apologist/advocates like you here. Many of us have some ambivalence

yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any) ALONE

or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post apologia

unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

Pete

miken-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12879

> In a message dated 3/1/00 1:22:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

gprice@...

> writes:

>

> > Taking/not taking Inventory is a made-up concept.

> >

> > Drop the AA mindset, drop the 12-step language tunnel.

>

> Although I am a current member of AA and agree with much of their

philosophy,

> I am not one of those " Big Book Thumpers " who are hurting AA and

potential

> members by their intolerance and irrational resistance to change.

>

> A great paradox in AA sayings is, " Stick with the Winners "

> " Don't take anyone's Inventory.

>

> Hard to do the first one without a little inventory taking.

>

> As far as this talk about a cult goes, I believe there may be some of

that,

> but it depends on the people and the group. The meetings I go to and

the

> friends I have are not afraid to question the orthodoxy and is

something in

> the Big Book is not agreed with, members will state their feelings

during our

> Big Book meetings.

>

> I know this is not the case everywhere. There are these groups who

take

> everything Joe and Charlie say as gospel. Here in NY they are called

" Big

> Book Study Groups. " The few I went to reminded me of the brainwashing

that

> was prevalent in Therapeutic Communities.

>

> I'm lucky I came into AA when I did with a sponsor who was tolerant

and

> didn't push anything on me.

>

> Sometimes I feel that it is imperative for people like me to stay

around and

> counterbalance the garbage that these holy rollers are dishing out to

> newcomers.

>

> It they have made some inroads in NYC, I can only imagine what

meetings must

> be like in places where the Christian Right is powerful. I don't

think I

> would feel too comfortable at a meeting in Alabama or Mississippi.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/2/00 12:27:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

awatt04@... writes:

> Many of us have some ambivalence

> yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any) ALONE

> or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post apologia

> unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

I guess Freedom of Speech to you means only speech that you agree with.

The hilarious thing is the things lyou put AA down for you are guilty of

yourself.

If you didn't feel threatened by AA or may deep down you still haven't shaken

them off, your reponse is the typical one.

I'll continue to post when I want to unless you guys are so INTOLERANT you

can't handle it.

BTW, playing games with people on line pretending to be someone you are not

shows a lot of anger.

Maybe you should hit your knees.....LOL

[Guest guest]

At 20:28 01/03/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi Joe

>

>AAs get so brainwashed they seem to think that *everybody* has signed

>up - or at est anyone who talks abt AA hs. In a debate on a list abt

>whether AA is religious, one guy wrote me saying " Remember our Traditon

>to not bring AA into controversy. " !

>

>P.

I think sometimes we need clearly worded responses for such occasions,

specifically designed to allow the thought-challenged person the

possibility of considering something new, something outside the proverbial

box. On this occasion I would be inclined to respond with something like;

" Since I am now by choice outside of AA and am criticising it for what I

believe to be its many very serious faults, do you seriously expect me to

be following 'the traditions of AA' whilst doing so? What makes you think I

would want to? "

Joe B.

[Guest guest]

Hi doorman.

Guess your'e still keeping the list clean.

Have you ever reflected about the consequences of being stuck in the

second stage of freudian development?

Happy 2K.

Forever yours.

Bjørn

"pete watts" wrote: original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12902

> Hello

> > Thankyou for admitting you are an AA. This isnt a debating group, or

> even 12-step neutral - it is 12-step FREE. I dont like seeing AA

> apologist/advocates like you here. Many of us have some ambivalence

> yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any) ALONE

> or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post

apologia

> unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

> > Pete

> > miken-@... wrote: > original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=128

79

> > In a message dated 3/1/00 1:22:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> gprice@... > > writes:

> > > > > Taking/not taking Inventory is a made-up concept.

> > > > > > Drop the AA mindset, drop the 12-step language tunnel. > > > > Although I am a current member of AA and agree with much of their

> philosophy, > > I am not one of those "Big Book Thumpers" who are hurting AA and

> potential > > members by their intolerance and irrational resistance to change.

> > > > A great paradox in AA sayings is, "Stick with the Winners"

> > "Don't take anyone's Inventory.

> > > > Hard to do the first one without a little inventory taking.

> > > > As far as this talk about a cult goes, I believe there may be some

of

> that, > > but it depends on the people and the group. The meetings I go to and

> the > > friends I have are not afraid to question the orthodoxy and is

> something in > > the Big Book is not agreed with, members will state their feelings

> during our > > Big Book meetings.

> > > > I know this is not the case everywhere. There are these groups who

> take > > everything Joe and Charlie say as gospel. Here in NY they are called

> "Big > > Book Study Groups." The few I went to reminded me of the

brainwashing

> that > > was prevalent in Therapeutic Communities. > > > > I'm lucky I came into AA when I did with a sponsor who was tolerant

> and > > didn't push anything on me. > > > > Sometimes I feel that it is imperative for people like me to stay

> around and > > counterbalance the garbage that these holy rollers are dishing out

to > > newcomers.

> > > > It they have made some inroads in NYC, I can only imagine what

> meetings must > > be like in places where the Christian Right is powerful. I don't

> think I > > would feel too comfortable at a meeting in Alabama or Mississippi.

> > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Miken.

HAHA.

I actually enjoyed reading what you wrote..UNTIL..in typical AA

( " Advice and Analysis " ) fashion...you ended your post

by....analyzing..then..advising...the person you directed your mesage

to.

HAHA.

You guys crack me up.

guadman

miken-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12919

> In a message dated 3/2/00 12:27:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> awatt04@... writes:

>

> > Many of us have some ambivalence

> > yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any)

ALONE

> > or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post

apologia

> > unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

>

>

> I guess Freedom of Speech to you means only speech that you agree

with.

>

> The hilarious thing is the things lyou put AA down for you are guilty

of

> yourself.

>

> If you didn't feel threatened by AA or may deep down you still

haven't shaken

> them off, your reponse is the typical one.

>

> I'll continue to post when I want to unless you guys are so

INTOLERANT you

> can't handle it.

>

> BTW, playing games with people on line pretending to be someone you

are not

> shows a lot of anger.

>

> Maybe you should hit your knees.....LOL

[Guest guest]

Mike,

As expected, you DONT UNDERSTAND what freedom of speech is.

I agree either you agree with freedom of speech for your enemies or you

dont agree with free speech. However free speech does not mean you

have a right to insult me in my own home for example.

Neither I nor anyone else here can deprive you of net free speech,

because you can pronounce whatever you like all over the net. However

we can tell you to shut up in our OWN HOME, and 12-step-free is our

home. We also have the right to throw you out of home too if we wish

too. If you want to praise AA piss off to where such thoughts are

wanted. Also, you might think you will post what you want here, but you

wont, because if you say things that Ken the listowner thinks

inappropriate he will ax you, and rightly so.

Another example of your lack of cortical matter is you seem to think I

approved of Alan Ross's behavior. you will recall I asked him if he

were an agent provacateur - i.e. an infiltrator trying to encourage

excessive behvaior to discredit us - something I have suspected of him

before - and hence have indicated a DISAPPROVAL of his his beehvior.

You on the other hand, with your first-grader understanding of what

free speech is, presumably defend his right to behave like that!

miken-@... wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12919

> In a message dated 3/2/00 12:27:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> awatt04@... writes:

>

> > Many of us have some ambivalence

> > yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any)

ALONE

> > or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post

apologia

> > unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

>

>

> I guess Freedom of Speech to you means only speech that you agree

with.

>

> The hilarious thing is the things lyou put AA down for you are guilty

of

> yourself.

>

> If you didn't feel threatened by AA or may deep down you still

haven't shaken

> them off, your reponse is the typical one.

>

> I'll continue to post when I want to unless you guys are so

INTOLERANT you

> can't handle it.

>

> BTW, playing games with people on line pretending to be someone you

are not

> shows a lot of anger.

>

> Maybe you should hit your knees.....LOL

[Guest guest]

Hi nutcase.

Just exercising the first-grader right of speech to tell this guy to

shut the fuck up!

"bjørn herring" wrote: original article:

Hi doorman.

Guess your'e still keeping the list clean.

Have you ever reflected about the consequences of being stuck in the

second

stage of freudian development?

Happy 2K.

Forever yours.

Bjørn

"pete watts" wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12902

> Hello

>

> Thankyou for admitting you are an AA. This isnt a debating group, or

> even 12-step neutral - it is 12-step FREE. I dont like seeing AA

> apologist/advocates like you here. Many of us have some ambivalence

> yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any) ALONE

> or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post

apologia

> unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

>

> Pete

>

> miken-@... wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=128

79

> > In a message dated 3/1/00 1:22:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> gprice@...

> > writes:

> >

> > > Taking/not taking Inventory is a made-up concept.

> > >

> > > Drop the AA mindset, drop the 12-step language tunnel.

> >

> > Although I am a current member of AA and agree with much of their

> philosophy,

> > I am not one of those "Big Book Thumpers" who are hurting AA and

> potential

> > members by their intolerance and irrational resistance to change.

> >

> > A great paradox in AA sayings is, "Stick with the Winners"

> > "Don't take anyone's Inventory.

> >

> > Hard to do the first one without a little inventory taking.

> >

> > As far as this talk about a cult goes, I believe there may be some

of

> that,

> > but it depends on the people and the group. The meetings I go to and

> the

> > friends I have are not afraid to question the orthodoxy and is

> something in

> > the Big Book is not agreed with, members will state their feelings

> during our

> > Big Book meetings.

> >

> > I know this is not the case everywhere. There are these groups who

> take

> > everything Joe and Charlie say as gospel. Here in NY they are called

> "Big

> > Book Study Groups." The few I went to reminded me of the

brainwashing

> that

> > was prevalent in Therapeutic Communities.

> >

> > I'm lucky I came into AA when I did with a sponsor who was tolerant

> and

> > didn't push anything on me.

> >

> > Sometimes I feel that it is imperative for people like me to stay

> around and

> > counterbalance the garbage that these holy rollers are dishing out

to

> > newcomers.

> >

> > It they have made some inroads in NYC, I can only imagine what

> meetings must

> > be like in places where the Christian Right is powerful. I don't

> think I

> > would feel too comfortable at a meeting in Alabama or Mississippi.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Of course I analyze and advise you - why the fuck shouldnt I?

Ive analyzed you as an AA menshevik (look it up and think if you can)

who wants to use this list as what he wished AA was, and Im advising

you to fuck off, and a " proud 12-step-free member " to do so!

" guadman " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12941

> Miken.

> HAHA.

> I actually enjoyed reading what you wrote..UNTIL..in typical AA

> ( " Advice and Analysis " ) fashion...you ended your post

> by....analyzing..then..advising...the person you directed your mesage

> to.

> HAHA.

> You guys crack me up.

>

> guadman

>

>

>

>

> miken-@... wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=129

19

> > In a message dated 3/2/00 12:27:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > awatt04@... writes:

> >

> > > Many of us have some ambivalence

> > > yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any)

> ALONE

> > > or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post

> apologia

> > > unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

> >

> >

> > I guess Freedom of Speech to you means only speech that you agree

> with.

> >

> > The hilarious thing is the things lyou put AA down for you are

guilty

> of

> > yourself.

> >

> > If you didn't feel threatened by AA or may deep down you still

> haven't shaken

> > them off, your reponse is the typical one.

> >

> > I'll continue to post when I want to unless you guys are so

> INTOLERANT you

> > can't handle it.

> >

> > BTW, playing games with people on line pretending to be someone you

> are not

> > shows a lot of anger.

> >

> > Maybe you should hit your knees.....LOL

>

[Guest guest]

Soory guadan -looks like I got you mixed uop with Mike N. - and I

ranted back at what I thought was a rant at me!

youre not the same guy are you?

P.

" guadman " wrote:

original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=12941

> Miken.

> HAHA.

> I actually enjoyed reading what you wrote..UNTIL..in typical AA

> ( " Advice and Analysis " ) fashion...you ended your post

> by....analyzing..then..advising...the person you directed your mesage

> to.

> HAHA.

> You guys crack me up.

>

> guadman

>

>

>

>

> miken-@... wrote:

> original article:/group/12-step-free/?start=129

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> > In a message dated 3/2/00 12:27:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > awatt04@... writes:

> >

> > > Many of us have some ambivalence

> > > yes, but I dont see ppl just taklking abt the positives (if any)

> ALONE

> > > or make excuses like you have done. Can you kindly *not* post

> apologia

> > > unless you also have some problem with AA you need to talk abt?

> >

> >

> > I guess Freedom of Speech to you means only speech that you agree

> with.

> >

> > The hilarious thing is the things lyou put AA down for you are

guilty

> of

> > yourself.

> >

> > If you didn't feel threatened by AA or may deep down you still

> haven't shaken

> > them off, your reponse is the typical one.

> >

> > I'll continue to post when I want to unless you guys are so

> INTOLERANT you

> > can't handle it.

> >

> > BTW, playing games with people on line pretending to be someone you

> are not

> > shows a lot of anger.

> >

> > Maybe you should hit your knees.....LOL

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/3/00 7:09:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,

awatt04@... writes:

> Ive analyzed you as an AA menshevik (look it up and think if you can)

My you are hostile! If AA made you like this, I apologize.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/3/00 10:42:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, guadman@...

writes:

> HAHA.

> You guys crack me up.

I'm glad I was able to bring some laughter into your day. :-)