Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 > Crystal wrote: > What does surrendering to the pain really mean? Giving up on life. Well I can't do that. Emotionally accepting that you will always be in pain. Well I thought I've already done that. It's almost the same idea as forgiveness. I can say the words, and think I mean it, but my heart will still hurt, and it will always feel the same. Surrendering and forgiveness seem to be concepts my heart just can't get around. Crystal, I don't like the idea of surrendering to the pain. I agree that sounds like giving up on life. Instead of " surrendering " to the pain how about " accepting " the pain? It is something in our lives right now. It is something we can work at changing. Maybe we will or we won't be successful at changing it. But for right now, pain is a factor that is part of my life right now. Pain limits what I can do. Pain interferes with what I want to do. And sometimes, pain can bring me closer to other people. For example, I'd never be part of this Yahoo Group without it. When I try to ignore the pain, or do stupid things, like over-scheduling myself, my pain increases. When I have accepted that pain is a part of my life, like it or not, then things can get easier. I don't get to do everything I want to do, but it has helped me concentrate on the things that really matter to me. Hope your day is getting more pain-free by the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Crystal I have personally found it beneficial to occasionally surrender to the pain (take a day to veg when you need it, the world can wait). Pushing through chronic pain can cause more pain. The key is to find a balance between surrendering completely and killing yourself. Pushing through the pain is NOT a substitute for proper treatment of pain. NEVER allow your doctor to force you into pushing through the pain instead of prescribing opioids. Wishing everyone low pain. Steve M in PA, age 21 Married with 3 year old daughter Duragesic 300mcg/hr (q48hr) Actiq-600 (4/day) OxyIR 30mg (6/day) Grade II DIPG (Diffuse Intrinsic Pontine Glioma) Fibromyalgia Probable RSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Three cheers for Crystal! Well done you, you are not alone with those feelings. Ken Crystal wrote: Internalizing the pain. PUSHING THROUGH IT. Then it hit me. I can't remember a time when I haven't pushed through the pain. Sometimes it can be so subconscious. I don't even know that's what I do because I've done it so long. What are my other choices? Make a face in pain, fall down writhing in pain on the floor. Well I don't have time for that. I have to get to work! What is it like to not be in pain. What is it like to NOT have to push through the pain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I agree with taking a step back and allowing the pain to come and go, especially on a day off. Instead of focusing on " getting ahead " like I used to do. For me, it is better to focus on finding little ways to find comfort in alternative treatments, like resting with a moist heating pad with feet propped up, instead of pushing through another load of folding laundry. It can wait until the foot spasms stop. That's easier said than done when you can't work any more, but " pushing through it " was all I had when my pain was small enough to keep pushing. It was once like a small child, who could make life difficult, but the latest tantrum was soon forgotten as soon as the child was in somebody else's hands. Over the years the child grew, and the tantrums were replaced by trade-offs of chores and rewards, versus rebellion and consequences. Today it is as tall as me, and I am no longer able to control it by myself, so I have to receive whatever help is available, and make compromises along my way through new paths in this short life. It's like an improvised education plan (I E P) for physically handicapped children. The lesson assignments and goals are the same as for other kids, but there is an adaptation for how the handicapped child attains the same goal. Everybody has to live with some amount of pain or sadness or discomfort in this life. We just have bigger portions of it and need to include different tools in order to get from point A to point B, and all the way to Z. Right? Bonnie from SC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I am hoping as more time passes and my work is further along with my counselor that I can reaccept my pain, build a new normal for me, and get to living. I know I need more than a medicine to work that will replace the neurontin that stopped helping. Patience runs low and depression becomes deep, but there is the chance for more and as long as I remind myself of this even when I do not truly believe it all the time it allows me to keep going. One day things will click. All of us need reminders of such at one time or another. I know I do. Christy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Well said all you guys! Your messages really inspire me to get through one more day. As a single mom with 2 kids in college, I know I have to work 2 more years. Quitting is just not an option. I will fight the pain each morning even though some days I come home almost in tears from the pain I am in. I cannot take a higher dose of opioid medication and work. My doctor has offered them to me but I know my limits. I also refuse to have any more procedures that cause me pain without promising me relief. I have endured those enough, too. Right now I am just trying to survive and I tell myself there is a better life for me in the not too soon future as I think retirement will ease my stress which I know will help with pain relief and if not, then maybe I will say yes to more opioid medication. I hope everyone has a good Friday and great weekend. Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thank you everyone for the inspirational words! It helps so much to know I am not the only one dealing with these emotions, thoughts, realizations, and struggles. At the same time, it both saddens me and give me solace that others have it to much worse off. It solaces me in that I am so lucky that I can still push through the pain, and do many of the things that bring me joy - like working with animals. It saddens me thinking about how much more many of you have to deal with. More and more I believe doctors know less and less, but that's a topic for another posting Cheers! -Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 I am trying to soften around the pain - not react with tension or anxiety and not get into hopeless internal dialog. I am new to this method and have much to learn Rik > Crystal wrote: > What does surrendering to the pain really mean? Giving up on life. Well I can't do that. Emotionally accepting that you will always be in pain. Well I thought I've already done that. It's almost the same idea as forgiveness. I can say the words, and think I mean it, but my heart will still hurt, and it will always feel the same. Surrendering and forgiveness seem to be concepts my heart just can't get around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Crystal Yauch wrote: > This morning as I'm getting ready for work I'm brushing my hair, > putting moisturizer on my face, brushing my teeth and I'm biting the bullet. Internalizing the pain. PUSHING THROUGH IT. Then it hit me. I can't remember a time when I haven't pushed through the pain. Crystal, Your thoughts are so logical to me, I admire you so much. There have been times, I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in no pain. I remember going for an exam they gave me Versed and I actually had no pain for two hours but I can't stay on that all my life. I look at my fur-kids that were rescues and their happiness and their love for me, they don't say " Oh you are not in pain, but lay by me when I hurt and we snuggle and love on each other " It is so great. They also know that I will take care of them and have actually laid by my one doggy when she had tummy ache all night. Surrendering to pain, with some techniques means as if in La manse birth techniques, relaxing, deep breathes, is a form of surrendering and as in biofeedback the machine I was hooked up to, I could see my blood pressure go down, feel my muscles relax. The word surrender is used as far as focalizing at your big toe imagine going up your leg, to your hip etc. So I think surrender doesn't mean giving up. I didn't give up on steam cleaning a carpet and lifting two weeks ago and actually set myself back to more pain. One must know your limitation to prevent more pain or damage, also. If it helps you to be better, go for it. Fighting chronic pain is an expression which is used, surrender is a word. Acceptance has allowed me to protect what function I do have left. Just my experience. Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 That's a really cool way to look at things, Bennie. I remember feeling the exact same way when I was on anesthesia for a stomach procedure. Ahhh. No pain. Just reading your words helped me realize that I am lying here, all tensed up. I miss my fur kids. I've had to put them in foster care when I had to leave my home near Nashville to move in my dad's house and his wife's. I'm close to losing my long term disability and won't have my ssdi hearing until jan/feb. Ellen-Hangin in > Bennie wrote: > The word surrender is used as far as focalizing at your big toe imagine going up your leg, to your hip etc. So I think surrender doesn't mean giving up. I didn't give up on steam cleaning a carpet and lifting two weeks ago and actually set myself back to more pain. One must know your limitation to prevent more pain or damage, also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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