Re: Re: Mercola Turns Against Cod Liver Oi

[Guest guest]

Hey Dave-

Good to see you here.

I kind of agree with you... but I also kind of don't, entirely.

Treating something as sacred is basically a way to protect and

preserve it, but without a full understanding of exactly what it is

that's being protected and why, it's a very imperfect protection at

best. We need a scientific understanding of how all this works in

order to assure that the values which led to something being

considered sacred in the first place aren't inadvertently lost even

while tradition is maintained.

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> i would like to see a change in focus early in the debate. change

> the focus or discussion

> from clo good/bad to industrialization of our sacred foods as good

> or bad.

[Guest guest]

What do you think of Carlson's cod liver oil?

From: timjohan1 <timjohan1@...>

Subject: Re: Mercola Turns Against Cod Liver Oi

Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 6:38 AM

I've posted quite a few comments on Mercola's blog concerning my

belief that he is wrong on this topic, and he has deleted all of them.

I have lost any remnants of respect that I once had for him. Mercola

is a man with an agenda, and truth is not his primary objective.

[Guest guest]

Mercola's blog is HEAVILY censored. pretty much anything that doesn't correspond

to his party line is deleted. Occasionally a complaint about this appears, but

my bet is that they try to delete everything.

I believe that he is primarily about profits. I don't trust him at all.

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[Guest guest]

I've gotten on his case in the past for irresponsibly claiming that all

artificial sweeteners are worse for you than sugar, even if someone's a

diabetic. Of course, that kind of thing is ignored. He also went on a

rampage about the suggestion that boys should be vaccinated against

HPV. Where does he think women catch it, magic virus fairies? I know

the issues surrounding vaccination, and I totally support the right of a

parent to refuse vaccination for their kids, but for those of us who

live in crowded areas and who aren't willing to take the risk, I don't

appreciate being called a dummy by someone who's got a few dumb

arguments of his own.

*shrug* This is why I do my own reading. If I see enough people

recommending something and they don't all have an obvious agenda that

seems harmful to me, I'm more likely to accept it.

timjohan1 wrote:

> I've posted quite a few comments on Mercola's blog concerning my

> belief that he is wrong on this topic, and he has deleted all of them.

> I have lost any remnants of respect that I once had for him. Mercola

> is a man with an agenda, and truth is not his primary objective.

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[Guest guest]

Tom,

I've read what some companies do is isolate the natural A and D, and then

add the same natural A and D back to the original oil in set amounts so they

can control the ratio.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote

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> It just seemed improbable to me that the vitamins A & D naturally

> present in the oil would occur in *precisely* a 10:1 ratio. On my

> bottle of HV Blue Ice the A is listed as 5750 IU and the D as 575 IU.

> However, on your more recent label I see the amounts are listed as

> 5000 IU " min " and 500 IU " min " which makes more sense.

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[Guest guest]

> Here's my 2 cents from the POV of a Green Pasture's customer...

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> There was only one plant in all of Europe that was setting aside

> natural A/D from the CLO itself and adding that back to adjust A/D

> levels. This plant has switched to using synthetic A/D. Many brands of

> HVCLO used this plant so they are all affected. Dr. Ron's is one

> example.

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> The only products affected at Green Pastures AFAIK is their HVCLO, not

> the fermented stuff.

Hi ,

Neither Green Pastures' nor Dr. Ron's HVCLO contains synthetic vitamins. Dr.

Ron's CLO IS the Green Pasture's CLO, just has a different label. Same for

Dr. Ron's fermented CLO. From what I have been told, there is still a

relatively large supply of the Blue Ice HVCLO without the synthetic

vitamins. Only when this supply is gone, will Dave and Dr. Ron and those of

us who sell their CLO stop selling this product. So you can be sure that

Blue Ice brand (whether Green Pasture or Dr. Ron's) will continue to only

provide CLO that contains natural vitamins A and D, unless Dave changes his

mind one day to do it differently.

I suspect though, that this will be when hell freezes over :-)

Suze

[Guest guest]

I use Green Pastures fermented CLO but am wondering about the oxidation of the

oil during processing. I've heard that all oil oxidizes quickly and create

volatile compounds. Also, the label says it 'is tested to international purity

standards'. Okay, but does it meet these standards?

Anne

Re: Mercola Turns Against Cod Liver Oi

where is the wapf shopping guide?

> > What do you think of Carlson's cod liver oil?

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