Re: Low oxalate/ gluten free diet

[Guest guest]

There's a low oxalate group called " Trying Low Oxalates " that should be able

to give good guidance (and success stories).

B1 and B6, the heat sensitive B vitamins, are vital to the body's ability to

handle oxalate.

For extreme nausea, I'd wonder if she's getting enough B3. I had that bad

at the height of my mercury poisoning and when I finally discovered B3 would

fix it I was sooo happy!

-Lana

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

> That is what I'm urging my cousin to go on to see if she feels better.

> Has anyone had any good success with this diet for interstitial

> cystitis and/or GI symptoms? (she suffers from constipation and

> extreme nausea). Thanks in advance. All prayers for Donna appreciated

> as well. Kathy P.

[Guest guest]

Kidney/bladder supports will help - uva ursi, cranberry, etc. Also, avoid

citrus. Nausea is almost always caused by gall bladder issues (and often so is

constipation). Has she ever eaten a low fat diet or a diet high in trans fats?

The other classic gall bladder markers are 'fair, forty, female, and gassy'.

Low oxalate/ gluten free diet

That is what I'm urging my cousin to go on to see if she feels better.

Has anyone had any good success with this diet for interstitial

cystitis and/or GI symptoms? (she suffers from constipation and

extreme nausea). Thanks in advance. All prayers for Donna appreciated

as well. Kathy P.

[Guest guest]

--- Thanks Lana, ,I'll tell her that about b3. But the funny thing is

in looking at message boards and info. sites, b6 itself seems to

bother some people, stomach wise. So I had just sent her some

(chewable) b6 but asked her to wait till she tried the diet for a few

days first. Of course now she is not going on the diet yet as she is

trying to use up the stuff in the fridge first. Sigh....What did you

do eat stuff with high b3 or take supplements?

Kathy

In , Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...>

wrote:

>

> There's a low oxalate group called " Trying Low Oxalates " that should

be able

> to give good guidance (and success stories).

> B1 and B6, the heat sensitive B vitamins, are vital to the body's

ability to

> handle oxalate.

>

> For extreme nausea, I'd wonder if she's getting enough B3. I had

that bad

> at the height of my mercury poisoning and when I finally discovered

B3 would

> fix it I was sooo happy!

>

> -Lana

>

> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

>

> > That is what I'm urging my cousin to go on to see if she feels better.

> > Has anyone had any good success with this diet for interstitial

> > cystitis and/or GI symptoms? (she suffers from constipation and

> > extreme nausea). Thanks in advance. All prayers for Donna appreciated

> > as well. Kathy P.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was pretty bad off with the mercury poisoning so despite eating B rich

foods, I needed supplements to see improvement. I used niacinamide

specifically when it came to the B3.

There are a couple of different forms of B6 too, I had the best of luck with

P5P. The regular pyridoxine HCl bothered my stomach a little bit, but my

biggest issue with that form was that it used up so much of my B2.

It is strange thinking back to those days... I remember being so miserable

before I got everything sorted...

-Lana

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

> --- Thanks Lana, ,I'll tell her that about b3. But the funny thing is

> in looking at message boards and info. sites, b6 itself seems to

> bother some people, stomach wise. So I had just sent her some

> (chewable) b6 but asked her to wait till she tried the diet for a few

> days first. Of course now she is not going on the diet yet as she is

> trying to use up the stuff in the fridge first. Sigh....What did you

> do eat stuff with high b3 or take supplements?

>

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

so which company product did you settle on that was friendly to your stomach?

 

Mike

> --- Thanks Lana, ,I'll tell her that about b3. But the funny thing is

> in looking at message boards and info. sites, b6 itself seems to

> bother some people, stomach wise. So I had just sent her some

> (chewable) b6 but asked her to wait till she tried the diet for a few

> days first. Of course now she is not going on the diet yet as she is

> trying to use up the stuff in the fridge first. Sigh....What did you

> do eat stuff with high b3 or take supplements?

>

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

--- I'll tell her that. SHe couldn't talk tonight feeling too

miserable. All prayers appreciated! I'd like to know the brand you

used too. p5p is what I am looking for in a chewable for my son. If

you or anyone knows where I could get that let me know. THanks.

Kathy

In , Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...>

wrote:

>

> I was pretty bad off with the mercury poisoning so despite eating B rich

> foods, I needed supplements to see improvement. I used niacinamide

> specifically when it came to the B3.

> There are a couple of different forms of B6 too, I had the best of

luck with

> P5P. The regular pyridoxine HCl bothered my stomach a little bit,

but my

> biggest issue with that form was that it used up so much of my B2.

>

> It is strange thinking back to those days... I remember being so

miserable

> before I got everything sorted...

>

> -Lana

>

>

> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

>

> > --- Thanks Lana, ,I'll tell her that about b3. But the funny thing is

> > in looking at message boards and info. sites, b6 itself seems to

> > bother some people, stomach wise. So I had just sent her some

> > (chewable) b6 but asked her to wait till she tried the diet for a few

> > days first. Of course now she is not going on the diet yet as she is

> > trying to use up the stuff in the fridge first. Sigh....What did you

> > do eat stuff with high b3 or take supplements?

> >

> > Kathy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Solgar for the P5P (I used solgar a lot back then), the niacinamide was my

old local HFS's brand. I've seen similar labeling at several small HFS, but

there's no note on the label about who actually makes it.

-Lana

[Guest guest]

--- Lana how did you know you had mercury poisoning? Were you tested?

Kathy

In , Lana Gibbons

<lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

>

> Solgar for the P5P (I used solgar a lot back then), the niacinamide

was my

> old local HFS's brand. I've seen similar labeling at several small

HFS, but

> there's no note on the label about who actually makes it.

> -Lana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- The reason I ask about the mercury poisoning is that I suspect

toxic overload in my cousin too. Did you just figure it out on

symptoms? Also how much niacinamide did you take? THe supplements I

found online were like 2500? times the RDA! Thanks Kathy

In , " Kathy " <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

>

> --- Lana how did you know you had mercury poisoning? Were you tested?

>

> Kathy

>

>

> In , Lana Gibbons

> <lana.m.gibbons@> wrote:

> >

> > Solgar for the P5P (I used solgar a lot back then), the niacinamide

> was my

> > old local HFS's brand. I've seen similar labeling at several small

> HFS, but

> > there's no note on the label about who actually makes it.

> > -Lana

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Well,I had no clue what was wrong with me (I was practically disabled at all

of 20 years old) - until my fillings broke. They all separated from the

sides of the filling, meaning the mercury had evaporated out of them. A

hair test showed that I was indeed poisoned by them. It was miserable... I

wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

> --- Lana how did you know you had mercury poisoning? Were you tested?

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

In the end, all of my symptoms (a plethora, which started with my cycles and

accumulated over the course of around 10 years and included practically

everything on the mercury symptom list from extreme fatigue to sensitivity

to light to chronic dehydration) were caused by mercury poisoning. I did a

lot of research before I figured it out though, thought maybe I had a

metabolic disorder, thought I was celiac (enterolab's testing said it was

likely - they turned out to be wrong), I turned out to just be mercury

poisoned. (I say Just because it is curable, whereas most of the other

options I was looking at aren't) In the end I was debating between two

different metal poisonings (mercury and I think copper?) then my fillings

broke, making the diagnosis clear.

The niacinamide I took was 500mg. It is a lot more than the RDA. I found

though when I was still poisoned that things didn't work as well as they

should, and I was wasting a lot of B vitamins due to my body feebly

attempting to get rid of the mercury on its own, so I often needed higher

doses of water solubles and antioxidents. Although, in the case of the

niacinamide, I would occasionally split the pill in half and it'd still work

to fend off my nausea, just not as long as the whole dose would. I still

have the original bottle I got - the stuff works better than tylenol for my

very rare headaches.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

> --- The reason I ask about the mercury poisoning is that I suspect

> toxic overload in my cousin too. Did you just figure it out on

> symptoms? Also how much niacinamide did you take? THe supplements I

> found online were like 2500? times the RDA! Thanks Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

so did you get rid of your filings? I have similar experiences along with my

wife.

> --- The reason I ask about the mercury poisoning is that I suspect

> toxic overload in my cousin too. Did you just figure it out on

> symptoms? Also how much niacinamide did you take? THe supplements I

> found online were like 2500? times the RDA! Thanks Kathy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yes!! They were so bad I didn't have a choice on that one.

Excruciatingly painful to have them pop off the sides of the tooth like

that. Cost quite a bit of money to get them replaced with composites

though, and to have to make sure the composites were nickel free... oh boy.

But I got it done even though it put me into significant debt and if I had

to do it again I wouldn't do it any other way.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Mike <mikeroyusa@...> wrote:

> so did you get rid of your filings? I have similar experiences along with

> my wife.

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- I didn't think about the gall bladder but that might be one

possibility-- Thanks. No I don't think so though come to think of it

as dairy helps the nausea though. Back in nursing school they called

it the '5 f's' by the way: fair, fat, female, fertile (a lot of kids)

and forty. I got so mad when the PA tried to pin gallbladder problems

on me when I turned 40 (even when the test came back negative) because

I knew just what she was doing! LOL Didn't tell her that though--I

just went elsewhere and with me it turned out it was GERD, and mild

ulcers. Now 11 years later though I am suspecting some gallbladder

involvement beginning. Cranberry is actually supposed to be avoided as

I understood it unless there is a bladder infection as it is high in

oxalates. I did tell her about the citrus though...

Kathy

In , " Anne Fischer Silva "

<afischersilva@...> wrote:

>

> Kidney/bladder supports will help - uva ursi, cranberry, etc. Also,

avoid citrus. Nausea is almost always caused by gall bladder issues

(and often so is constipation). Has she ever eaten a low fat diet or

a diet high in trans fats? The other classic gall bladder markers are

'fair, forty, female, and gassy'.

>

> Low oxalate/ gluten free diet

>

>

> That is what I'm urging my cousin to go on to see if she feels better.

> Has anyone had any good success with this diet for interstitial

> cystitis and/or GI symptoms? (she suffers from constipation and

> extreme nausea). Thanks in advance. All prayers for Donna appreciated

> as well. Kathy P.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lana I couldn't find how much b6 or p5p you took. Forgive me if you

already said. In a 'women doctors home remedies' book I read last

night that one physician gave her morning sickness gals 25 mg three

times a day with good success. Did you take more than 25 mg at a time?

I'm thinking she can just break the chewables in half. Thanks.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

--- Also how much niacinamide you took-- I think you told me t his one

but can't find it. Sorry. Kathy

In , " Kathy " <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

>

> Lana I couldn't find how much b6 or p5p you took. Forgive me if you

> already said. In a 'women doctors home remedies' book I read last

> night that one physician gave her morning sickness gals 25 mg three

> times a day with good success. Did you take more than 25 mg at a time?

> I'm thinking she can just break the chewables in half. Thanks.

>

> Kathy

>

[Guest guest]

I did 25mg P5P " as needed " which would be when B6 deficiency symptoms

would pop up (sore wrists were one symptom, I'm trying to recall the

rest... it has been a while I think there was one that had to do with

eyes...) - it could be once a day, or 3 times per day. I don't think

I ever did over 3x per day. The " tolerable upper limit " set by the

FDA is 100mg/day.

I took Niacinamide 500mg per dose. I would take that up to 3x a day,

as needed. The first few weeks on it for nausea, I needed the 3x/day,

but after that 1x per day or every other day was just fine.

I took B1 (thiamin Hcl) 100mg per dose. Usually I only needed that

once a day, but I recall taking it as much as 3x a day when needed. I

found B1 really good for kidney pain due to detox.

I was 110 lbs at the time.

And make sure she gets plenty of water when taking high doses of B

vitamins. Not only do they need to dissolve to be useful, but they

need to be washed out when the body doesn't need as much as you're

giving it.

-Lana

On 1/11/09, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

> Lana I couldn't find how much b6 or p5p you took. Forgive me if you

> already said. In a 'women doctors home remedies' book I read last

> night that one physician gave her morning sickness gals 25 mg three

> times a day with good success. Did you take more than 25 mg at a time?

> I'm thinking she can just break the chewables in half. Thanks.

>

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

--- THank you Lana. She does have sore...well arms anyways, she thinks

it is carpal tunnel but she doesn't do much with her hands/arms so I

wondered...She drinks plenty of water but as she may have (God forbid)

her lymphoma back she should probably ask her doctor about adding any

vitamins....

Kathy

In , Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...>

wrote:

>

> I did 25mg P5P " as needed " which would be when B6 deficiency symptoms

> would pop up (sore wrists were one symptom, I'm trying to recall the

> rest... it has been a while I think there was one that had to do with

> eyes...) - it could be once a day, or 3 times per day. I don't think

> I ever did over 3x per day. The " tolerable upper limit " set by the

> FDA is 100mg/day.

>

> I took Niacinamide 500mg per dose. I would take that up to 3x a day,

> as needed. The first few weeks on it for nausea, I needed the 3x/day,

> but after that 1x per day or every other day was just fine.

>

> I took B1 (thiamin Hcl) 100mg per dose. Usually I only needed that

> once a day, but I recall taking it as much as 3x a day when needed. I

> found B1 really good for kidney pain due to detox.

>

> I was 110 lbs at the time.

>

> And make sure she gets plenty of water when taking high doses of B

> vitamins. Not only do they need to dissolve to be useful, but they

> need to be washed out when the body doesn't need as much as you're

> giving it.

>

> -Lana

>

> On 1/11/09, Kathy <kathleenis_his@...> wrote:

> > Lana I couldn't find how much b6 or p5p you took. Forgive me if you

> > already said. In a 'women doctors home remedies' book I read last

> > night that one physician gave her morning sickness gals 25 mg three

> > times a day with good success. Did you take more than 25 mg at a time?

> > I'm thinking she can just break the chewables in half. Thanks.

> >

> > Kathy

>