Re: Immune System and Breastfeeding

[Guest guest]

Elena,

I would recommend adding a vitamin D3 supplement during the winter

months. As I mentioned in another thread, I've had success with 4,000

to 6,000 IU daily, and more when I feel a cold coming on. Most D3 is

synthetic but if you are really concerned about that you can look for

a brand isolated from fish oil, I've seen them.

Tom

[Guest guest]

> I really don't know. What am I doing wrong????

> Thanks,

> Elena

What is your quantity and quality of sleep?

Or do you have excess stress, more than you can shake off?

Sleep is a huge contributor to a healthy immune system.

And we know about sleep and young babies.

Connie

[Guest guest]

I am far from where I need to be health wise but I notice we don't catch

colds until we visit my very ill mom and it's usually after she gets the

flu shot! I am beginning to wonder if she's giving us the virus in the

flu shot that is somehow stronger than other viruses around. We just

got over a nasty flu and now my husband is down with a new fever and I

have one as well. thankfully doesn't seem to get as sick as we

do, just runs a fever a few days and has some stuffiness.

Of course he is always on his CLO while mommy forgets to take hers all

the time and daddy wont' take it at all! (I need to get him some capsules).

Anyway, I was wondering if you or a family member is around someone who

gets flu shots?

Dawn

Elena wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> I know we've discussed immune system probably to death here, but I

> still have one more

> question.

>

> My 8 months old is sick second time this month. Last time he got sick,

> then I got sick, then

> my husband. Not long after that the baby is sick again and I'm sick

> too and my husband is

> starting to get sore throat. I'm being told by some people that it's

> normal for babies to be

> sick that often, but I think that's an absurd. But I just can't figure

> out what am I doing

> wrong????? He is home-born with no drugs, no vax, exclusively

> breastfed, we started solid

> at 6.5 month - mostly fruits and veggies, some kefir, egg yolk etc but

> his main food is still

> breastmilk. I try to eat mostly NT with occasional slip-ups (nobody is

> perfect), raw milk,

> chicken and bone broths, garlic, kefir, take fish oils and CLO,

> vitamins, extra vitamin C,

> drink a ton of fluids and take Bio-Kult (4-6 a day, sometimes more).

> And I'm sick second

> time this months! It's the craziest thing - I never get sick!!!! Can

> it be that breastfeeding is

> putting a strain on my immune system??? Do I have to choose between

> being healthy and

> nourishment for my baby. But if I'm sick, I'm sure I'm not producing

> good enough milk

> anyway. Well, I know it's better then formula, but I'm starting to

> doubt myself.

>

> I really don't know. What am I doing wrong????

>

> Thanks,

>

> Elena

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elena,

If you're all eating the same and you're all getting sick - I'd suspect diet

before breastfeeding. I didn't see liver mentioned, are you getting the

active forms of the B vitamins? How much sugar (rapadura, honey, or

otherwise) are you eating? Do you grind your own flour or are you buying

store bought (and if buying, is it bromate free)? Do you drink municipal

tap water? Have you tried charting your temperature? On the rare occasion

I get sick it is due to a temperature dip, usually from thyroid toxins like

bromate or fluoride.

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Elena <elena.forums@...> wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> I know we've discussed immune system probably to death here, but I still

> have one more

> question.

>

> My 8 months old is sick second time this month. Last time he got sick, then

> I got sick, then

> my husband. Not long after that the baby is sick again and I'm sick too and

> my husband is

> starting to get sore throat. I'm being told by some people that it's normal

> for babies to be

> sick that often, but I think that's an absurd. But I just can't figure out

> what am I doing

> wrong????? He is home-born with no drugs, no vax, exclusively breastfed, we

> started solid

> at 6.5 month - mostly fruits and veggies, some kefir, egg yolk etc but his

> main food is still

> breastmilk. I try to eat mostly NT with occasional slip-ups (nobody is

> perfect), raw milk,

> chicken and bone broths, garlic, kefir, take fish oils and CLO, vitamins,

> extra vitamin C,

> drink a ton of fluids and take Bio-Kult (4-6 a day, sometimes more). And

> I'm sick second

> time this months! It's the craziest thing - I never get sick!!!! Can it be

> that breastfeeding is

> putting a strain on my immune system??? Do I have to choose between being

> healthy and

> nourishment for my baby. But if I'm sick, I'm sure I'm not producing good

> enough milk

> anyway. Well, I know it's better then formula, but I'm starting to doubt

> myself.

>

> I really don't know. What am I doing wrong????

>

> Thanks,

>

> Elena

[Guest guest]

Linus ing found that the more crowded people are the more germs

spread, regardless of health, tho if the people around you are

unhealthy they have more germs to give you. It's normal to get sick

when you get exposed to germs all around you all the time the healthy

people just don't get as sick or stay sick as long, imho.

Some people here use those fabric seat covers for the shopping carts

because the area where you put babies is the germiest. And because

babies exhale/cough a lot more germs than adults, it makes sense that

an adult would get sick when interacting with a sick baby/small child.

So I'd say don't worry too much. It's not you it's the area you're

in. Another thing to consider is that when the air is colder the

smog/pollution stays lower and is more condensed near where we

breathe, plus more smoke from fireplaces, etc. Add to that

industrial pollution and it could be it's not even GERMS that are

making you sick per se, as much as pollutants irritating the airways

until they are unable to defend themselves from germs. Eating well

can't create ideal health while you're inhaling too many toxins and

irritants. My friend noticed when there was a toxic spill over 100

miles away and she noticed that she and everyone around her were

having sinus/congestion problems over the next few days. I've heard

the same thing about the contrails from jets - they have very few

pollution controls on them and the jet fumes are pretty unhealthy.

Vitamin C seems to protect against a lot of toxins - I've read plenty

of journal articles where it was the vitamin C levels that made the

difference between the people who got sick and those who didn't, so

if you change anything, I'd say take more vitamin C.

Just my thoughts.

Renate

--- In , " Elena " <elena.forums@...>

wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> I know we've discussed immune system probably to death here, but I

still have one more

> question.

>

> My 8 months old is sick second time this month. Last time he got

sick, then I got sick, then

> my husband. Not long after that the baby is sick again and I'm sick

too and my husband is

> starting to get sore throat. I'm being told by some people that

it's normal for babies to be

> sick that often, but I think that's an absurd. But I just can't

figure out what am I doing

> wrong????? He is home-born with no drugs, no vax, exclusively

breastfed, we started solid

> at 6.5 month - mostly fruits and veggies, some kefir, egg yolk etc

but his main food is still

> breastmilk. I try to eat mostly NT with occasional slip-ups (nobody

is perfect), raw milk,

> chicken and bone broths, garlic, kefir, take fish oils and CLO,

vitamins, extra vitamin C,

> drink a ton of fluids and take Bio-Kult (4-6 a day, sometimes

more). And I'm sick second

> time this months! It's the craziest thing - I never get sick!!!!

Can it be that breastfeeding is

> putting a strain on my immune system??? Do I have to choose between

being healthy and

> nourishment for my baby. But if I'm sick, I'm sure I'm not

producing good enough milk

> anyway. Well, I know it's better then formula, but I'm starting to

doubt myself.

>

> I really don't know. What am I doing wrong????

>

> Thanks,

>

> Elena

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps you should consider other factors, such as mold or other

exposure in your home. We went a long time with little to no illness

in us and our kids until we had some unsuspected mold exposure and...

bam! We have been sick on and off for months, sicker in 4 months than

we have been in 4 years. So, I would also look at environmental

factors - mold, duct work, etc.

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone for your responses. That makes a lot of sense - we have been

under a

lot of stress and everybody is sick around us. Interesting - our diet is

absolutely different -

my husband is on Trudeau's diet right now - very low calorie, absolutely

no fat etc,

before that he was vegetarian for 3 years. And he is not nearly as sick as I am,

that's why I

was thinking my immune system need some strengthening. It just doesn't make any

sense.

Thanks,

Elena

>

> Dear all,

>

> I know we've discussed immune system probably to death here, but I still have

one more

> question.

>

> My 8 months old is sick second time this month. Last time he got sick, then I

got sick,

then

> my husband. Not long after that the baby is sick again and I'm sick too and my

husband

is

> starting to get sore throat. I'm being told by some people that it's normal

for babies to

be

> sick that often, but I think that's an absurd. But I just can't figure out

what am I doing

> wrong????? He is home-born with no drugs, no vax, exclusively breastfed, we

started

solid

> at 6.5 month - mostly fruits and veggies, some kefir, egg yolk etc but his

main food is

still

> breastmilk. I try to eat mostly NT with occasional slip-ups (nobody is

perfect), raw milk,

> chicken and bone broths, garlic, kefir, take fish oils and CLO, vitamins,

extra vitamin C,

> drink a ton of fluids and take Bio-Kult (4-6 a day, sometimes more). And I'm

sick

second

> time this months! It's the craziest thing - I never get sick!!!! Can it be

that breastfeeding

is

> putting a strain on my immune system??? Do I have to choose between being

healthy

and

> nourishment for my baby. But if I'm sick, I'm sure I'm not producing good

enough milk

> anyway. Well, I know it's better then formula, but I'm starting to doubt

myself.

>

> I really don't know. What am I doing wrong????

>

> Thanks,

>

> Elena

>

[Guest guest]

I second the comment to avoid sugar. Twice in the last year, I was on

the verge of getting sick (some minor symptoms) but didn't seem to be

getting worse. Then I had a bunch of commercial ice cream and bam, the

next day, full blown symptoms! I thought the sugar was the cause the

first time, but when it happened a second time, months later, I knew

for sure that sugar impairs the immune system.