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A few less toxic things you can try:

Mix some boric acid with a little bit of syrup or sugar and water and use it as

a bait. I have pets, so I put it in a paper towel or toilet paper roll and stick

along the cupboard wall.

Sprinke natural diatemaceous earth (DE) along your cupboard walls. When they

walk through it, it causes them to dehydrate.

Kathy

---- Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...> wrote:

=============

So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

YKWIM?

-Lana

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Lana,

> So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

> who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

> that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

> with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

> harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

> the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

> have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

> pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

> YKWIM?

Lana,

I don't the answer to your question but I can sympathize with your

reaction to them. When I was a kid and our family would go back and

visit my mom and dad's family, they had plenty of cockroaches back

then. Ugh!

Here is a link I found on cockroach management. The author doesn't

mention your particular species but he does suggest that pesticides

will not control the problem, at least for the species he mentions.

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7467.html

I hope you find a viable solution

/how is motherhood and the new baby?

--

In the religious perspective, none of us " owns " his own body. Rather, we are the

stewards of them, and God is the ultimate " owner " of each of us. But

this concerns only

the relation between man and Deity. As far as the relationship between

man and man,

however, the secular statement that we own our own bodies has an

entirely different

meaning. It refers to the claim that we each have free will; that no

one person may take

it upon himself to enslave another, even for the latter's " own good. "

- Walter Block

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We used boric acid and it took a couple of weeks but they were all

gone. We poured it in the back of the cabinets and in nooks and

cranies. They carry it back to the eggs to and because of the way they

eat if they ingest it they take that back too and regurgitate it and

then re-eat it thus sharing the poison.

Boric Acid isn't harmless to us but it's a lot better than other pesticides.

You can also use Diatomaceous Earth but it takes longer and I am not

sure how long term effective it would be. We moved into a rental house

in Austin when we first got here and it was over-run... and i'm

terrified of the disgusting things. So we put Boric Acid all over the

kitchen and parts of the bathroom. Two weeks later htere wasn't a bug

in sight! They were so bad before that I remember dropping a drop of

BBQ sauce on the counter, turning around to put something in the fridge

and turning back and it was swarming with the bugs... i get shivers

thinking about it!!

Thank GOD we've never had another place like that but if I saw one I

don't hesitate to bust out the DE (I keep it in stock to feed the pets)

and would get Boric Acid if I saw more than one!

Dawn

Lana Gibbons wrote:

>

> So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

> who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

> that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

> with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

> harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

> the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

> have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

> pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

> YKWIM?

>

> -Lana

>

>

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Those big ones, American Cockroaches (we sometimes call them Water Bugs

or Palmetto Bugs), come in from outside. I see one every once in a

while and not in groups. They are after moisture.

The literature says they are 1-1/2 inches long but we had a 3-incher on

our ceiling one time. We couldn't knock it down. I was ready to get

the BB gun. My husband finally speared it with a bayonet. Sounds like

a Texas Tall Tale but no lie!

-Patty

>

> So we have a cockroach problem.

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Hi,

 

  Does anyone remember what the " Bug Doctor " had to say about roaches?  The " Bug

Doctor " sold his book on an infomercial about 10 years ago I would say, & have

not discovered any current links, what happened?

Well performed is better than well stated...,dedicated to all people everywhere,

in all countries, of all ages & all professions & all schools of thought, who

have either directly or indirectly contributed to native knowledge, our

birthright; Jim Igo

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From: Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@...>

Subject: OT: Cockroaches

Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 12:21 PM

So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

YKWIM?

-Lana

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The only low to non-toxic solution that I know of is Boric Acid. I

lived in a house infested with roaches when I was like 17 and it was

so gross. Our kitchen was directly and openly connected to our

room/bedroom which made it a pretty serious situation. I never

encountered a roach before this so it definitely freaked me out.

I just bought a big thing of boric acid powder and put it everywhere I

thought roaches traveled and within a week we didn't have any in our

room or kitchen. They were still in the rest of the house but we

amazingly had our 2 small rooms free of roaches.

-

>

> So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

> who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

> that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

> with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

> harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

> the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

> have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

> pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

> YKWIM?

>

> -Lana

>

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Bleh!!!!! We used to get those in Florida and Houston... I hate both

places!!

But in Florida we stopped seeing them as much when we had a bunch of

lizards move in! I love lizards! =)

Dawn

Patty T wrote:

>

> Those big ones, American Cockroaches (we sometimes call them Water Bugs

> or Palmetto Bugs), come in from outside. I see one every once in a

> while and not in groups. They are after moisture.

> The literature says they are 1-1/2 inches long but we had a 3-incher on

> our ceiling one time. We couldn't knock it down. I was ready to get

> the BB gun. My husband finally speared it with a bayonet. Sounds like

> a Texas Tall Tale but no lie!

>

> -Patty

>

>

> >

> > So we have a cockroach problem.

>

>

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I have never had to live with roaches, but even worse, I have never

encountered roaches this big. They must be the American ones, at 2-3 "

long! I'm not the type to be freaked out by bugs, but I actually

yelped the other day when I went to wash my hands in the bathroom and

I had almost picked up the bar of soap one was sitting on!!

To make it even worse, I tried to flush one and it SWAM!

There was plenty of moisture for them to thrive on... when we got

here, apparently no one ever used the bathroom sink - the drainpipe

was totally shot and every time I ran water it pooled behind the wall.

After a few uses it came out through the molding and flooded the

bathroom floor - it has been fixed as of last week, but the wood is

still all rotten and it doesn't appear that it will be replaced.

Apparently roaches like to eat rotting wood from what I'm reading...

Bleh...

Thanks all for the suggestions!

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Dawn <blaidd1@...> wrote:

> Bleh!!!!! We used to get those in Florida and Houston... I hate both

> places!!

>

> But in Florida we stopped seeing them as much when we had a bunch of

> lizards move in! I love lizards! =)

>

> Dawn

>

>

> Patty T wrote:

>>

>> Those big ones, American Cockroaches (we sometimes call them Water Bugs

>> or Palmetto Bugs), come in from outside. I see one every once in a

>> while and not in groups. They are after moisture.

>> The literature says they are 1-1/2 inches long but we had a 3-incher on

>> our ceiling one time. We couldn't knock it down. I was ready to get

>> the BB gun. My husband finally speared it with a bayonet. Sounds like

>> a Texas Tall Tale but no lie!

>>

>> -Patty

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On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Dawn <blaidd1@...> wrote:

> Bleh!!!!! We used to get those in Florida and Houston... I hate both

> places!!

>

> But in Florida we stopped seeing them as much when we had a bunch of

> lizards move in! I love lizards! =)

>

> Dawn

LOL!

When I was in Hilton Head, South Carolina, my friend warned me on the

way to the condo from the airport, " better watch out for the

cockroaches " and I looked at her and said " you MUST be joking! " .

Having not seen one since my youthful days in the South I was thinking

this is NOT going to be a fun time. Turns out it was just cold enough

that the roaches had yet to show up for the season. Bleeeeeeech!

--

In the religious perspective, none of us " owns " his own body. Rather,

we are the stewards of them, and God is the ultimate " owner " of each

of us. But this concerns only the relation between man and Deity. As

far as the relationship between man and man, however, the secular

statement that we own our own bodies has an entirely different

meaning. It refers to the claim that we each have free will; that no

one person may take it upon himself to enslave another, even for the

latter's " own good. " - Walter Block

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Houston, yeah, guilty as charged. But we actually live in Sugar Land,

in the suburbs.

-Patty

>

> Bleh!!!!! We used to get those in Florida and Houston... I hate both

> places!!

>

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Brace youself.

They fly, too.

-Patty

>

> I have never had to live with roaches, but even worse, I have never

> encountered roaches this big. They must be the American ones, at 2-3 "

> long! I'm not the type to be freaked out by bugs, but I actually

> yelped the other day when I went to wash my hands in the bathroom and

> I had almost picked up the bar of soap one was sitting on!!

>

> To make it even worse, I tried to flush one and it SWAM!

>

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I was reading that earlier today... thankfully they haven't yet.

They've been lucky I've been keeping the dog away from them (who knows

where those roaches have been or what they've eaten!), but if they

start flying its roach hunting season for Jez...

-Lana

" There is nothing more useful than sun and salt. " - Latin proverb

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Patty T <tri4home@...> wrote:

> Brace youself.

> They fly, too.

> -Patty

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> --- Lana Gibbons <lana.m.gibbons@> wrote:

> > To make it even worse, I tried to flush one and it SWAM!

>

--- Patty T <tri4home@...> wrote:

> Brace yourself. They fly, too.

Yes, they're noisy fliers. Keep a big fly swatter handy :)

I think Dawn's right about the lizards. I see fewer bugs in the house

when I see more lizards in the yard. We've had baby lizards in the

house lately too.

I suppose rats probably eat roaches too :)

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We lived in Spring.

I have a SERIOUS phobia... like I can't breathe, panic attack stuff.

Some childhood trauma I thankfully can't remember.

I still remember one night we were asleep in our room and my boyfriend

lept up out of bed swatting and this HUGE beast of a bug ran went flying

as he slapped it off him. I was hysterical! He then chased me around

the room with it and i nearly puked i was so freaked out. I never did

forgive him either.

Anyway, after that I had a lot of trouble sleeping! I was so happy when

we moved to Austin and now I just have to deal with the occasional

scorpion or field mouse.

My husband took me to Florida last Christmas to visit his family and

show off his son (then 4 months) and she had those beasts all over the

place... i didn't sleep for the week we were there without jumping up

every few minutes. He promised never to make me stay there again. =)

She keeps the windows open and the a/c off, it's an old house with lots

of moisture issues! Not my idea of fun.

Because I am so afraid of them I made myself learn about them. The key

to killing the indoor ones is to get them to eat it or get the poison to

stick to their legs which they clean constantly. They are actually

cleaner than house flies... my rational mind accepts that but my

irrational and totally afraid part can't accept it. =) Anyway they

digest their food also by throwing it up and eating it again. This

means that other bugs they live with can share in the poison if it's

slow acting. I believe that's why the Boric acid works so well.

The big ones are coming in from outside and you can try the boric acid,

they might take it back out to where they live. But it needs to be put

in the moist places they are going. It's pretty cheap stuff too so you

can be generous.

Anyway y'all are freaking me out so I'm done for tonight! =)

Dawn

Patty T wrote:

>

> Houston, yeah, guilty as charged. But we actually live in Sugar Land,

> in the suburbs.

> -Patty

>

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I can identify...

My thing is that I hate them so much and they freak me out so much that

I must be the one to kill them. If someone else tries and misses, I

get mad at them, so better for it to be me.

Makes sense in some way.

-Patty

>

> I have a SERIOUS phobia... like I can't breathe, panic attack

stuff...

> Because I am so afraid of them I made myself learn about them.

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You are like me and gotta see they are dead! Otherwise I can't sleep,

relax or anything.

I used to freeze up but as I got older and made myself move and kill

them I felt better because they aren't gonna sneak up on me. LOL

Dawn

Patty T wrote:

>

> I can identify...

> My thing is that I hate them so much and they freak me out so much that

> I must be the one to kill them. If someone else tries and misses, I

> get mad at them, so better for it to be me.

>

> Makes sense in some way.

> -Patty

>

>

> >

> > I have a SERIOUS phobia... like I can't breathe, panic attack

> stuff...

> > Because I am so afraid of them I made myself learn about them.

>

>

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Let me offer or add my two cents worth in this.

I had them bad many years ago and it was because the apts next door was

so infested. I went to the dollar store and bought a quart bottle of

Boric acid powder and put it everywhere. I got rid of every single one

of them. that stuff works!!!

I had used the bombs under the house, had the exterminator, Raid, and

you name it. Still had them. But when I put out the Cheap stuff out it

got the job done. Give it a try.

Also I understand that dimmateous earth works too.

These are safe and work. The Boric acid you put behind cabinets and out

of the way of pets, but the other is safe around them.

>

> So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

> who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

> that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

> with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

> harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

> the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

> have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

> pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

> YKWIM?

>

> -Lana

>

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Yes I had a problem once too that was coming from next door. My

landlord finally offered to pay half for the exterminator to do their

home too and that got rid of the problem. Looking back, I'd bet

caulking would have helped a lot. Just to keep them next door where

they were evidently tolerated. I tried boric acid but maybe didn't

put it in enough places. It was nasty. Some of my favorite

cookbooks still have roach poop stains on the pages. I couldn't bear

to part with them because they were irreplacable - out of print!

> >

> > So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an

exterminator

> > who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> > cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but

he " says "

> > that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take

that

> > with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the

smaller,

> > harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does

work on

> > the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> > spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked

would

> > have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots

and

> > pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone

yesterday,

> > YKWIM?

> >

> > -Lana

> >

>

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But I was told (not sure if it's true) that the boric acid is totally poison and

very dangerous and also, they don't sell it so easily anymore because of being

so toxic.

 

From: mkathryn59 <mkathryn59@...>

Subject: Re: OT: Cockroaches

Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 12:44 AM

Let me offer or add my two cents worth in this.

I had them bad many years ago and it was because the apts next door was

so infested. I went to the dollar store and bought a quart bottle of

Boric acid powder and put it everywhere. I got rid of every single one

of them. that stuff works!!!

I had used the bombs under the house, had the exterminator, Raid, and

you name it. Still had them. But when I put out the Cheap stuff out it

got the job done. Give it a try.

Also I understand that dimmateous earth works too.

These are safe and work. The Boric acid you put behind cabinets and out

of the way of pets, but the other is safe around them.

>

> So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an exterminator

> who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but he " says "

> that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take that

> with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the smaller,

> harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does work on

> the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked would

> have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots and

> pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone yesterday,

> YKWIM?

>

> -Lana

>

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I heard about a church group that went to South Dakota to an Indian reservation,

they painted all the cracks shut and in fact, they said the roaches were so bad

they actually painted roaches in the paint, permenantly as in stuck there. But

roaches get in through anywhere, even cracks so tiny that you don't know they're

there. I saw baby roaches once, the size of a tiny speck, and they hatch by the

hundreds from one egg, I saw that too.

I think the only way is to do massive poision dust, whatever it takes is just

totally worth whole thing

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: OT: Cockroaches

Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 7:44 AM

Yes I had a problem once too that was coming from next door. My

landlord finally offered to pay half for the exterminator to do their

home too and that got rid of the problem. Looking back, I'd bet

caulking would have helped a lot. Just to keep them next door where

they were evidently tolerated. I tried boric acid but maybe didn't

put it in enough places. It was nasty. Some of my favorite

cookbooks still have roach poop stains on the pages. I couldn't bear

to part with them because they were irreplacable - out of print!

> >

> > So we have a cockroach problem. The landlord called an

exterminator

> > who called me today. They don't " do " baiting systems for sewer

> > cockroaches, they use a spray. I can't say I'm trilled, but

he " says "

> > that the spray is non-toxic once dried. I can't help but to take

that

> > with a grain of salt... He says the bait works only on the

smaller,

> > harder to get rid of roach. Does anyone know if the bait does

work on

> > the bigger " sewer " variant? Or is there a better alternative to

> > spraying/baiting that the exterminator my landlord has picked

would

> > have access to? These critters are gross, pooping in all my pots

and

> > pans and getting around the baby stuff... I need them gone

yesterday,

> > YKWIM?

> >

> > -Lana

> >

>

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