MSG in Nutritional Yeast? was Re: Stefansson's Book Online

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Thanks! I use only Frontier right now which I believe is what is

recommended by WAPF.

I am unfortunately very familiar with the MSG buzz though for me it has

turned into an almost panic attack like feeling and then an awful

headache. A good if painful deterrent!

Dawn

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> There can be. The yeast WAPF endorses is low-heat processed, I think.

> Since the kale chips claim to be raw, I didn't give it too much

> thought, but they have that distinct, excited brain gimme-another-chip

> trigger. it's not just me, they are constantly sold out at the store

> and the check-out clerks comment on it--how people buy them 10 bags at

> a time, etc.--when I pass through.

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> > There's MSG in Nutritional Yeast??

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--- Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@...> wrote:

> Interesting idea about fructose (evil, evil fructose!) driving

> cravings. But your reasoning is based on its sweetness--do you have

> any reason to believe that fructose specifically causes more

> cravings?

Tom, so far it's just a guess that fructose might be the culprit

behind sugar addiction. Just a process of elimination, because I

don't think it's the glucose. Most starchy foods digest to glucose

but don't seem to drive addiction that I can tell, unless sugar (with

fructose) is added. Might be interesting to see some studies

comparing fructose, sucrose, and dextrose for addictiveness. Maybe

you have to have fructose together with glucose to be addicting?

I still remember craving dessert after dinner, even though I was full,

back when I was addicted. We went out to eat Sunday with my mom,

father-in-law, and a niece along with my wife and daughter. I didn't

get dessert, but watched them all devour theirs with gusto, even

though they just ate a meal and should have been full. It was quite

apparent they're addicted, but thankfully none of them have weight

problems. I'm not sure what pushes this addiction to a level where it

causes weight gain. Although, for me, the weight gain was very slow,

over decades, when I was addicted. Maybe it's just a slowly declining

metabolism with aging for most of us that gain weight as we get older.

Or maybe some trans-fats or excessive vegetable oils need to be added

into the mix.

> How much sugar/carbohydrate are you currently eating?

For the last three years, I've been getting about 20-30% of calories

from carbs on average per day. Much of that is from raw milk. But I

do sometimes have a little bit of bread with that butter I eat,

usually sourdough or sprouted or both.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/oz4caster/3245114775/

I eat potatoes sometimes as well, another good medium for butter

> I'm currently quasi-low carb but not actually counting and still

> get cravings, mostly minor. I avoid starches and refined sugar and

> keep fruit to 1-3 servings a day. I'm thinking about cutting down

> below 100g total carb/day and seeing if that helps.

I don't think good quality starchy carbs are a problem for

non-diabetics unless you're over-weight or gaining unwanted weight,

and even then IF might be a good solution. However, I don't think

it's wise to get more than about 50% of calories from carbs, as much

more than that might compromise getting good nutrition. And if you

really want to lose a lot of weight, going low-carb is hard to beat,

except maybe low-carb plus IF.