Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 How would one know the job of cancer removal is done? Also, who has tried this with good results? Is this a water fast? How long would one normally have to fast? Does this mean no exercise and complete rest as well? Thanks. Maureen [ ] Fasting and Cancer "Melinda Wiman" <wiman@...> wrote:>If it were only so easy. Not everyone will find this method successfully>controlling or treating their cancer. What works for some doesn't work for>others, or those in the alternative field would have an easy job here.* * *actually, it IS just that easy and just that difficult. and, the fast WILL work for anyone who has received the ability to actually do it and do it until the job is done.the fast (or some diluted form thereof) is the only true way to rid oneself of the problem for sure. but, once the fast is over, one also has to remain on a diet which will not allow the return of the problem.the ONLY reason a fast will not work for the total elimination of the cancer is if the person is already too far gone or the person just does not have the ability to stay with the fast until the job is done.john mc:)_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.comLearn more about cancer:http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/faq.htmYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 " Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote: >How would one know the job of cancer removal is done? well, one would stop hurting, for one thing. the body would be comfortable and at peace. one could, if one just had to, go and get a medical doctor to test for cancer. >Also, who has tried this with good results? dr. bernard jensen, for one. and i am sure there are countless others, but i do not know who they might be. >Is this a water fast? it could be, but the healing could also be done on a low-protein liquid diet. >How long would one normally have to fast? that would depend on the condition. i would suspect that anywhere from 40 to 120 days should fix a person up pretty well. >Does this mean no exercise and complete rest as well? the basic idea behind fasting for healing is to put the body into the very highest form of rest mode functionality. this is so the max amount of bodily energy can be utilized for healing purposes. so, if a person is really sick, they are not going to want to go out and job around the track. this will take away energy which would otherwise be used for healing. when we eat, the bodily energy is greatly taken up in digestion and elimination of the foods. when we fast and rest, the bodily energy is freed up so it can be focused on the process of healing the body. fasting strikes DIRECTLY at the primal cause of all chronic degenerative disease -- the garbage we daily ingest. it is like the lungs of a smoker -- you know how they turn black from smoking for years? and you know how once the smoker stops inputting the smoke into the lungs, the lungs, in time, clear and become pink and pretty once more. this is what fasting is about. you stop inputting the junk into the body, and the body then is able to remove it, but, so long as you keep inputting it " chronically, " the body is never able to fully eliminate it, and it accumulates until the accumulation becomes excessive, at which time, dysfunction results. fasting (or some diluted form thereof) is, IMO, the ONLY true way to heal the body. everything else is just a coverup of symptoms. but, folks tend to do the best they can, so i guess we can thank the lord for all of the coverup forms of " healing " which He has given us. at least we can take comfort in knowing that there are folks we can turn to for help when we dont know how to do the job of healing ourselves. john mc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 , Does the fasting regime still apply even if you are on a 100% raw diet? Maureen Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer "Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote:>How would one know the job of cancer removal is done?well, one would stop hurting, for one thing. the body would be comfortable and at peace. one could, if one just had to, go and get a medical doctor to test for cancer.>Also, who has tried this with good results?dr. bernard jensen, for one. and i am sure there are countless others, but i do not know who they might be.>Is this a water fast?it could be, but the healing could also be done on a low-protein liquid diet.>How long would one normally have to fast?that would depend on the condition. i would suspect that anywhere from 40 to 120 days should fix a person up pretty well.>Does this mean no exercise and complete rest as well?the basic idea behind fasting for healing is to put the body into the very highest form of rest mode functionality. this is so the max amount of bodily energy can be utilized for healing purposes. so, if a person is really sick, they are not going to want to go out and job around the track. this will take away energy which would otherwise be used for healing.when we eat, the bodily energy is greatly taken up in digestion and elimination of the foods. when we fast and rest, the bodily energy is freed up so it can be focused on the process of healing the body. fasting strikes DIRECTLY at the primal cause of all chronic degenerative disease -- the garbage we daily ingest.it is like the lungs of a smoker -- you know how they turn black from smoking for years? and you know how once the smoker stops inputting the smoke into the lungs, the lungs, in time, clear and become pink and pretty once more. this is what fasting is about. you stop inputting the junk into the body, and the body then is able to remove it, but, so long as you keep inputting it "chronically," the body is never able to fully eliminate it, and it accumulates until the accumulation becomes excessive, at which time, dysfunction results.fasting (or some diluted form thereof) is, IMO, the ONLY true way to heal the body. everything else is just a coverup of symptoms. but, folks tend to do the best they can, so i guess we can thank the lord for all of the coverup forms of "healing" which He has given us. at least we can take comfort in knowing that there are folks we can turn to for help when we dont know how to do the job of healing ourselves.john mc:)_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.comRead Hundreds of Collected Cancer Testimonials and learn:cancer-testimonials/messages/Learn more about cancer:http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/faq.aspYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Maureen, With all due respect to you and , I'm curious to know 's credentials re cancer treatment. Sincerely, (P.S. Ann Frahm fasted and said her cancer was gone in five weeks [this was not corroborated in the book by documentation from her treating physicians]. This doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that it was not documented. Several years later I'm sorry to say, Ann died of iron poisoning of the blood according to the email reply I received from her retreat in Colorado Springs. This is NOT meant to discourage you from fasting, simply to provide you with more information. Fasting has been helpful to me in several situations. You can read about her fast in her book "Cancer Battle Plan". It seemed a nutritious fast to me. If you don't know Ann's history (or I should say "herstory"), she went through every imaginable treatment for, I believe, breast cancer. These treatments finally included bone marrow transplant. She was finally sent home terminal. However, she got herself on this fast and lasted for at least several more years. I still haven't been able to determine how the iron poisoining of the blood was caused. When I asked the people at her retreat, they told me her husband, DAvid Frahm, had written about her death in the Sourcebook for the Cancer Battle Plan which they sell, and that I should refer to that. Truthfully, I didn't want to spend the money just for that, and no one else has told me they've read it, so I don't have the answer for that. Also, Herbert Shelton wrote a book "Fasting Can Save Your Life" some years ago and lots of people use that book among many others on fasting. Maureen & Dale <maureen@...> wrote: , Does the fasting regime still apply even if you are on a 100% raw diet? Maureen Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer "Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote:>How would one know the job of cancer removal is done?well, one would stop hurting, for one thing. the body would be comfortable and at peace. one could, if one just had to, go and get a medical doctor to test for cancer.>Also, who has tried this with good results?dr. bernard jensen, for one. and i am sure there are countless others, but i do not know who they might be.>Is this a water fast?it could be, but the healing could also be done on a low-protein liquid diet.>How long would one normally have to fast?that would depend on the condition. i would suspect that anywhere from 40 to 120 days should fix a person up pretty well.>Does this mean no exercise and complete rest as well?the basic idea behind fasting for healing is to put the body into the very highest form of rest mode functionality. this is so the max amount of bodily energy can be utilized for healing purposes. so, if a person is really sick, they are not going to want to go out and job around the track. this will take away energy which would otherwise be used for healing.when we eat, the bodily energy is greatly taken up in digestion and elimination of the foods. when we fast and rest, the bodily energy is freed up so it can be focused on the process of healing the body. fasting strikes DIRECTLY at the primal cause of all chronic degenerative disease -- the garbage we daily ingest.it is like the lungs of a smoker -- you know how they turn black from smoking for years? and you know how once the smoker stops inputting the smoke into the lungs, the lungs, in time, clear and become pink and pretty once more. this is what fasting is about. you stop inputting the junk into the body, and the body then is able to remove it, but, so long as you keep inputting it "chronically," the body is never able to fully eliminate it, and it accumulates until the accumulation becomes excessive, at which time, dysfunction results.fasting (or some diluted form thereof) is, IMO, the ONLY true way to heal the body. everything else is just a coverup of symptoms. but, folks tend to do the best they can, so i guess we can thank the lord for all of the coverup forms of "healing" which He has given us. at least we can take comfort in knowing that there are folks we can turn to for help when we dont know how to do the job of healing ourselves.john mc:)_________________________________________________________________Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.comRead Hundreds of Collected Cancer Testimonials and learn:cancer-testimonials/messages/Learn more about cancer:http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/faq.aspYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 >From: " Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:00:05 -0700 > >, >Does the fasting regime still apply even if you are on a 100% raw diet? >Maureen * * * maureen i am not sure i understand your question. john mc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Lagerstedt <neotell@...> wrote: > Maureen, >With all due respect to you and , I'm curious to know 's >credentials re cancer treatment. >Sincerely, * * * nancy i have absolutely NO credentials whatsoever. the folks with the " credentials " (the M.D.'s) are the ones who try to " heal " cancer by filling the body with poisons (chemotherapy). i do not recommend trying to heal a body by filling it with poison. john mc the guy with no credentials _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 Hi , You aren't alone, I don't have any credentials either regarding cancer. My work right now is to cure colon cancer so I appreciate everyone's thoughts and kind intentions. Best wishes, john mcalpin <quu7@...> wrote: Lagerstedt <neotell@...> wrote: > Maureen, >With all due respect to you and , I'm curious to know 's >credentials re cancer treatment. >Sincerely, * * * nancy i have absolutely NO credentials whatsoever. the folks with the " credentials " (the M.D.'s) are the ones who try to " heal " cancer by filling the body with poisons (chemotherapy). i do not recommend trying to heal a body by filling it with poison. john mc the guy with no credentials _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2001 Report Share Posted June 26, 2001 nancy so, YOU are the one with the colon cancer? or, someone you know? and, if it is you, are you doing enemas? and, please tell me about your diet, if you will. if i can make any " kind " suggestions, i will be happy to put them forth for your consideration. clearly, this is serious business, and i will gladly help you if i can! my colon has been my major " learning experience " in this life thus far. i could be called the enema king of the universe ...talking about a dysfunctional colon .. you are talking about mine so, talk to me and lets see if i have anything to offer. john mc >From: Lagerstedt <neotell@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:22:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > Hi , >You aren't alone, I don't have any credentials either regarding cancer. My >work right now is to cure colon cancer so I appreciate everyone's thoughts >and kind intentions. >Best wishes, > john mcalpin <quu7@...> wrote: > Lagerstedt <neotell@...> wrote: > > > Maureen, > >With all due respect to you and , I'm curious to know 's > >credentials re cancer treatment. > >Sincerely, > >* * * > >nancy > >i have absolutely NO credentials whatsoever. the folks with the > " credentials " (the M.D.'s) are the ones who try to " heal " cancer by filling >the body with poisons (chemotherapy). i do not recommend trying to heal a >body by filling it with poison. > >john mc >the guy with no credentials > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 I was told a 100% raw foods, vegan diet was curing. I have been on it several weeks now. How long have you been a breatharian? I read about it twenty or so years ago. Are there any books on breatharians now? Maureen Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:00:05 -0700 > >, >Does the fasting regime still apply even if you are on a 100% raw diet? >Maureen * * * maureen i am not sure i understand your question. john mc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 , Does your colon still eliminate if you are a breatharian? Maureen Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:22:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > Hi , >You aren't alone, I don't have any credentials either regarding cancer. My >work right now is to cure colon cancer so I appreciate everyone's thoughts >and kind intentions. >Best wishes, > john mcalpin <quu7@...> wrote: > Lagerstedt <neotell@...> wrote: > > > Maureen, > >With all due respect to you and , I'm curious to know 's > >credentials re cancer treatment. > >Sincerely, > >* * * > >nancy > >i have absolutely NO credentials whatsoever. the folks with the > " credentials " (the M.D.'s) are the ones who try to " heal " cancer by filling >the body with poisons (chemotherapy). i do not recommend trying to heal a >body by filling it with poison. > >john mc >the guy with no credentials > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 , Do you or did you have cancer? Maureen Re: [ ] Fasting and Cancer >Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:22:26 -0700 (PDT) > > > Hi , >You aren't alone, I don't have any credentials either regarding cancer. My >work right now is to cure colon cancer so I appreciate everyone's thoughts >and kind intentions. >Best wishes, > john mcalpin <quu7@...> wrote: > Lagerstedt <neotell@...> wrote: > > > Maureen, > >With all due respect to you and , I'm curious to know 's > >credentials re cancer treatment. > >Sincerely, > >* * * > >nancy > >i have absolutely NO credentials whatsoever. the folks with the > " credentials " (the M.D.'s) are the ones who try to " heal " cancer by filling >the body with poisons (chemotherapy). i do not recommend trying to heal a >body by filling it with poison. > >john mc >the guy with no credentials > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 " Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote: >I was told a 100% raw foods, vegan diet was curing. I have been on it >several weeks now. ** it is, IMO, BUT, not all raw foods are going to be good for you! and here i am talking basically about the proteiny ones, like the NUTS AND SEEDS. you consume a diet consisting only of fruits, NOT to include avacadoes and olives (proteiny fruits), and YES, you will heal. but the NUTS AND SEEDS (proteiny stuff) are not going to assist in the healing process. it is my belief that cancer is basically a protein-based disease. remove the proteiny diet and the cancer should go away quite naturally. >How long have you been a breatharian? ** i am not a Breatharian. i am just a Breatharian wannabe it takes time to break the food addiction. i am working on it >I read about it twenty or so years ago. Are there any books on >breatharians now? ** only a couple, none of which would i recommend. john mc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 " Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote: >, >Do you or did you have cancer? >Maureen * * * no mam ... do not and never have. however, the kind of body that i have IS the kind of body that normally does not last very long (this body tends to get obstructed very easily). however, because of the healing knowledge that i have been lead to in this life and my ability to actually apply it, i am still alive at the age of 54, and, i give MAJOR credit to my use of the enema! if it were not for the enema, i am quite certain that i would not be alive today. (well, i should say, the enema AND dietetic effort.) the enema is good right by itself, but the diet needs to be addressed also! i have clearly observed that my colon, when trying to do an enema, will become very stubborn when i have eaten some of the dietetic evils, but when i eat a more reasonable diet, the colon releases well during the enemas. john mc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2001 Report Share Posted June 27, 2001 " Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote: >, >Does your colon still eliminate if you are a breatharian? >Maureen * * * no mam ... a Real Breatharian should have NO bodily excretions. john mc _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 No (toxic) elimination, and therefore, do not contribute to pollution of the planet! Rui. john mcalpin wrote: > " Maureen & Dale " <maureen@...> wrote: > > >, > >Does your colon still eliminate if you are a breatharian? > >Maureen > > * * * > > no mam ... a Real Breatharian should have NO bodily excretions. > > john mc > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > You are digging your grave with your teeth! > Read Hundreds of Collected Cancer Testimonials and learn: > cancer-testimonials/messages/ > > Learn more about cancer: > http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/ > http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/faq.asp > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Fasting is a good idea. It allows the body to focus on healing instead of digesting. ar On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:18:22 -0000, " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@...> said: > Is fasting a good idea with cancer, or a bad idea? > > My body doesn't want to eat anything until noon. Some days it doesn't > want to eat anything until dinner. It's always been that way. > Sometimes my body just says " give me a rest, please " . > > Fasts longer than one day ARE difficult for me, however. Then my body > complains a lot, and the mind gets muddled too. > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 The reason I ask is the Budwig diet keeps you eating all day long! I count no less than 7 times a day that food is ingested with Budwig. YIKES. > > Fasting is a good idea. It allows the body to focus on healing instead > of digesting. > > ar > > On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:18:22 -0000, " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@...> > said: > > Is fasting a good idea with cancer, or a bad idea? > > > > My body doesn't want to eat anything until noon. Some days it doesn't > > want to eat anything until dinner. It's always been that way. > > Sometimes my body just says " give me a rest, please " . > > > > Fasts longer than one day ARE difficult for me, however. Then my body > > complains a lot, and the mind gets muddled too. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I hear you! There is no way I could possibly eat that much food. Raw food vegetarians will tell you to fast whenever seriously ill. Then come out of that into a juice diet. And then add raw fruits and veggies back in. Fasting jump starts healing. However, that is the raw foodists' version of how to get better. I'm sure everyone has a different take on it. ar On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:59:55 -0000, " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@...> said: > The reason I ask is the Budwig diet keeps you eating all day long! I > count no less than 7 times a day that food is ingested with Budwig. > YIKES. > > > > > > Fasting is a good idea. It allows the body to focus on healing > instead > > of digesting. > > > > ar > > > > On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:18:22 -0000, " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10@...> > > said: > > > Is fasting a good idea with cancer, or a bad idea? > > > > > > My body doesn't want to eat anything until noon. Some days it > doesn't > > > want to eat anything until dinner. It's always been that way. > > > Sometimes my body just says " give me a rest, please " . > > > > > > Fasts longer than one day ARE difficult for me, however. Then my > body > > > complains a lot, and the mind gets muddled too. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Herbert M. Shelton, Naturopath/Hygienist of old, probably conducted more fasts than anyone, suggested in his writings that fasting was not effective in treating cancer. I do not think he was thinking one or two day fasts, but prolonged fasts which he regularly used for treating most other illnesses. I personally know of his work and did a prolonged fast back in the mid-fifties at his ranch in Texas. Shelton died in his mid 90s but has extensive writings which can be found on-line. Shelton was one of the experts on Food Combining but clearly natural is best eating. It is difficult to argue with his 'beliefs' as the cause of disease but again, he gave a 'perhaps' as regards fasting for cancer and that perhaps was 'maybe it will help after surgery'. Other than that, after conducting thousands of fasts, he did not recommend it for treating cancer. Fasting to those practitioners, such as Shelton that work with it, meant total abstinence from food and using only pure/distilled water. From his and my own experience, and I personally witnessed some remarkable 'cures' while at the Ranch, was that most fasting symptoms disappear after three days. Those early symptoms are withdrawal type and those, including hunger, go away by the third day. Generally able people have no trouble fasting for 30 days with no outward symptoms except a heavily coated tongue. My mother, tiny and not strong fasted only 16 days. In fact, Shelton would check for a 'clearing' tongue every morning because he claimed that was the time to break the fast. His and others reasoning for the fast was to give the body complete 'physiological' rest, using no energy for digestion and adding no additional toxins thereby giving the body the necessary means to eliminate metabolic and other waste. Deep subject, totally foreign to the Allopathic practitioners as well as many modern day Naturopaths. Let me warn anyone seeking his books, they are very technical but very enlightening at the same time. Due to the strength of his conviction and trust in his findings, I do not fast re Cancer. The man was ahead of his time. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Joe, This is excellent information. Thank you. Personally, I am not a fan of fasting. I do know someone who had positive results from a fast concerning his cancer, but as we all know, there is always more to the story. ar On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:51:38 -0400, " JCastron " <jcastron1@...> said: > Herbert M. Shelton, Naturopath/Hygienist of old, probably conducted more > fasts than anyone, suggested in his writings that fasting was not > effective in treating cancer. > > I do not think he was thinking one or two day fasts, but prolonged fasts > which he regularly used for treating most other illnesses. > > I personally know of his work and did a prolonged fast back in the > mid-fifties at his ranch in Texas. Shelton died in his mid 90s but has > extensive writings which can be found on-line. Shelton was one of the > experts on Food Combining but clearly natural is best eating. > > It is difficult to argue with his 'beliefs' as the cause of disease but > again, he gave a 'perhaps' as regards fasting for cancer and that perhaps > was 'maybe it will help after surgery'. Other than that, after > conducting thousands of fasts, he did not recommend it for treating > cancer. Fasting to those practitioners, such as Shelton that work with > it, meant total abstinence from food and using only pure/distilled water. > > From his and my own experience, and I personally witnessed some > remarkable 'cures' while at the Ranch, was that most fasting symptoms > disappear after three days. Those early symptoms are withdrawal type > and those, including hunger, go away by the third day. Generally able > people have no trouble fasting for 30 days with no outward symptoms > except a heavily coated tongue. My mother, tiny and not strong fasted > only 16 days. In fact, Shelton would check for a 'clearing' tongue > every morning because he claimed that was the time to break the fast. > His and others reasoning for the fast was to give the body complete > 'physiological' rest, using no energy for digestion and adding no > additional toxins thereby giving the body the necessary means to > eliminate metabolic and other waste. Deep subject, totally foreign to > the Allopathic practitioners as well as many modern day Naturopaths. > Let me warn anyone seeking his books, they are very technical but very > enlightening a > t the same time. Due to the strength of his conviction and trust in > his findings, I do not fast re Cancer. > The man was ahead of his time. > > Joe C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 ABSOLUTELY!!!! Fasting is FANTASTIC!!! The great European clinics of Airola and Waerland used fasting to cure almost everything. Airola specialized in RA and guaranteed patients that he would cure them with a money back guarantee! All they has to do was to stick to the program. Fasting can be very dangerous so it should only be carried out under supervision by a knowledgeable practitioner. Three or four days is OK to do but going beyond that, sometimes up to 40 days, can be fatal if not properly monitored. Airola said after the first 3 days the hunger went away and people could cope nicely after that. It was hard to get them back on food and the re-training was critical to keep people from going back to their old habits. Elimination of carbs and sugars starved the cooties from their favorite fuels and thus morphed into dormancy. The microbe never leaves us but is returned to a harmless state as long as the biological milieu is maintained properly. All disease comes from within. > > Is fasting a good idea with cancer, or a bad idea? > > My body doesn't want to eat anything until noon. Some days it doesn't > want to eat anything until dinner. It's always been that way. > Sometimes my body just says " give me a rest, please " . > > Fasts longer than one day ARE difficult for me, however. Then my body > complains a lot, and the mind gets muddled too. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Very interesting Joe. I have fasted a few times. The longest being 14 days during which I took only filtered or distilled water. I am curious about fasting as a treatment regimen for cancer too because one thing I noticed was that minor skin lesions, warts, rashes, dandruff and such disappeared during the second week of my fast. I remember reading somewhere that the same mechanism that caused this would eliminate cancer; basically, the body consuming all non-essential tissue. Wish I could find it now. I did not experience heavy tongue coating at all. I wonder if anyone else has any experience with fasting here. Chuck Rose > > Herbert M. Shelton, Naturopath/Hygienist of old, probably conducted more fasts than anyone, suggested in his writings that fasting was not effective in treating cancer. > >snip > The man was ahead of his time. > > Joe C. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 I wonder if you can starve the cancer cells out of existence before you damage the regular cells. > > > > Herbert M. Shelton, Naturopath/Hygienist of old, probably conducted > more fasts than anyone, suggested in his writings that fasting was not > effective in treating cancer. > > > >snip > > > The man was ahead of his time. > > > > Joe C. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Logically, it would seem so. When fasting, the body initially consumes muscle tissue but, after three days, switches to fat stores for energy and conserves muscle, or so I've read. In my experience,after the first week my skin cleared up remarkably. As I mentioned in my previous post, a cluster of persistent warts on my elbow disappeared, a rash on my chest went away, patches of rosacea (sp?) on my face cleared up and even my dandruff went away. It seems logical that the body would consume tumors as well. In any case, I consider the benefits of fasting to be worth a try. If my tests come back positive I will certainly begin a two week or longer fast immeditately. We all love to eat, but there have been studies indicating that a very low calorie diet may improve longevity and general health. Obviously, the opposite causes severe health problems. No doubt extremely long fasts can be dangerous, but then if you have cancer..... Chuck > > I wonder if you can starve the cancer cells out of existence before > you damage the regular cells. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 We have had this discussion before. In fact Shelton wrote a book which argued that fasting was beneficial for cancer and quoted a number of cases in which the cancer tumour was auto-ingested. Now it may be that he later changed his mind but I have not read anywhere else that that happened. Having said that, the distinction between a fast and a starvation diet may or may not be valid: One way of looking at the Breuss Juice fast is that it is a starvation diet. Also I have a doctor's testimony that a terminal cancer case - with a very aggressive testicular cancer -was cured by the starvation diet of cabbage soup and rice in the Japanese prison camps. Another camp survivor claimed to me that the Japanese camp diet also cured a number of cases of syphilis!  Chamberlain Cancer: The Complete Recovery Guide www.fightingcancer.com From: jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Fasting and cancer Date: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 8:41 PM I wonder if you can starve the cancer cells out of existence before you damage the regular cells. > > > > Herbert M. Shelton, Naturopath/Hygienis t of old, probably conducted > more fasts than anyone, suggested in his writings that fasting was not > effective in treating cancer. > > > >snip > > > The man was ahead of his time. > > > > Joe C. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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