Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Hi, Kelley; The enzymes have a shelf life of 2 years, even after being opened, so as long as they were kept at room temperature, they should be fine. Since toast has wheat in it, I would use the Peptizyde for that, but start with small amounts say, 1/2 capsule and build up to 1 capsule per meal over about 10 days or so. you can add in the Zyme Prime at anytime. Best of luck, Devin > Hi all, > > I am waiting for my order of Pep and Zyme Prime (and as we are in Oz > I am expecting a bit of a wait lol), but I have some Pep that has > been opened. It was opened around Christmas time. I remember some > time ago reading that the enzymes will lose some of their potency > after the bottle being open for some time. As my son has not had any > of the enzymes yet would it be ok to give him, say 1/2 capsule at a > time now if they are not as effective? > > Also, as my son only eats bread and fruit should I start on Pep or > ZP? I just found out that he had 5 pieces of toast with honey for > breakfast!!! He is only 3 1/2 so this has surprised me, what sort of > dosage would you be giving for that amount of food?! > > He also snacks most of the day on apples and bananas (and any other > fruit that we have in the house), would I need to give enzymes for > these? What about Skittles and lemonade? These are his > 'reinforcers' but he would have about 10-15 Skittles and 1/2 cup of > lemonade in a 3 hr session at the very most. > > I would really appreciate your insight on this matter. > > Oh, and by the way, I still want Houston enzymes AFTER reading the > Feat article! > > Kind regards, > > Kelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 Thankyou so much for the reply Devin, I will be starting on them tomorrow. I cant wait! Kind regards, Kelley >Hi, Kelley; >The enzymes have a shelf life of 2 years, even after being opened, so >as long as they were kept at room temperature, they should be fine. >Since toast has wheat in it, I would use the Peptizyde for that, but >start with small amounts say, 1/2 capsule and build up to 1 capsule >per meal over about 10 days or so. you can add in the Zyme Prime at >anytime. >Best of luck, >Devin > > > >> Hi all, >> >> I am waiting for my order of Pep and Zyme Prime (and as we are in >Oz >> I am expecting a bit of a wait lol), but I have some Pep that has >> been opened. It was opened around Christmas time. I remember some >> time ago reading that the enzymes will lose some of their potency >> after the bottle being open for some time. As my son has not had >any >> of the enzymes yet would it be ok to give him, say 1/2 capsule at a >> time now if they are not as effective? >> >> Also, as my son only eats bread and fruit should I start on Pep or >> ZP? I just found out that he had 5 pieces of toast with honey for >> breakfast!!! He is only 3 1/2 so this has surprised me, what sort >of >> dosage would you be giving for that amount of food?! >> >> He also snacks most of the day on apples and bananas (and any other >> fruit that we have in the house), would I need to give enzymes for >> these? What about Skittles and lemonade? These are his >> 'reinforcers' but he would have about 10-15 Skittles and 1/2 cup of >> lemonade in a 3 hr session at the very most. >> >> I would really appreciate your insight on this matter. >> >> Oh, and by the way, I still want Houston enzymes AFTER reading the >> Feat article! >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Kelley > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2002 Report Share Posted September 25, 2002 I bet poisons from heavy metals and vaccines damage the cells ALOT MORE! R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 > 4. I read a disturbing quote from Dr Goldberg that chelation damages brain cells and I'm freaking out a little. He claims children are NOT helped but are permanently damaged by chelation. I know of the success this list has experienced but i'm still nervous. > 5. Any thots on NAET? Other than that Dr. Goldberg needs NAET to thinking so he isn't allergic to it? NAET really seems like oooga booga tie on a grass skirt and stick a bone through your nose witch doctor stuff. I've had a couple of dozen treatments and they have been marvelously helpful to me. I highly recommend it. If you are an adult, go to someone who uses acupuncture needles in the gate points - acupressure doesn't work very well. With children needles aren't really an option. Andy . . .. . . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 > I have some questions that I haven't seen any posting for. So I > just post them hoping for some insights. > > 1, For those who feel better after the replacement therapy, do your > gonads grow bigger and how much bigger? Does the growth revert > after the therapy stopped for a while. Only after using HCG did my nuts get big. The left one was half the size as the right, it is now as big as the right and the right got 10% bigger. Only on HCG not Testosterone. > 2. During or after the therapy, do you notice an increase in the > volume of the ejeculate? Change in color? Change in smell? Change > in viscosity? Around twice as much volume. It is whiter, use to kinda look yellowish. Never had a chance to smell it. Guess it never smelled. It is thicker. > 3. Does anyone also have post-voidal drips without an enlarged > prostate? Do you feel that the drips are caused by hypogonadism > where the shaft of the penis is so soft and small during urination > that it doesn't faciliate the flow and that the last bit of the > urine is held back due to the collapse of the urethras (for lack of > a better way to describe it)? Do not have a enlarged prostate. Did have that drip, it is now gone since starting TRT. Cheers > ~Chip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 theta_2k What do you think was the cause of your drips? Did you talk to your doctor and what was the response? Did you ask you primary care doctor about hypogonadism or did you just ask for a referral to an endo? How long do you need to be on HCG? When did you first notice a reduction in size of your gonads? When I complained to my pcp (I changed a few over the years) that I noticed mine have shrunk compared to when I was in my 20's, the first reply was always " they come in different sizes " . Only after using HCG did my nuts get big. The left one was half the size as the right, it is now as big as the right and the right got 10% bigger. Only on HCG not Testosterone. Do not have a enlarged prostate. Did have that drip, it is now gone since starting TRT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 My endo checked by gonads for size due to being on TRT. They do come in different sizes, but can be larger or smaller than normal and could indicate an issue. Nickso > > Chip, > > 1. Your Gonads will get smaller on T. So I stated doing some Maca > and that seamed to make them go back to normal. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 What I was trying to say was my primary care doctor was dismissing my complaint by saying " they come in different sizes " (so big deal) while I was telling him that they have shrunk over the years. > > > Chip, > > > 1. Your Gonads will get smaller on T. So I stated doing some > Maca > > and that seamed to make them go back to normal. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Is Maca a supplement that I can get in a health foods store? > My endo checked by gonads for size due to being on TRT. > > They do come in different sizes, but can be larger or smaller than > normal and could indicate an issue. > > Nickso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 loaded_vasdeferens, Yes. I think that GNC carries a product called Maca man...but you might want to check what other ingredients are in it; seems like it also contains some yohimbe which might be contraindicated if you have blood pressure issues. Myself, I always prefer to buy bulk of any supplement when I can. I've ordered Maca from these two vendors http://www.ahealthya.com/free_sample.htm http://www.rain-tree.com/maca.htm and have been pleased with the products. Good luck, OR eon GayMan Re: A few questions Is Maca a supplement that I can get in a health foods store? > My endo checked by gonads for size due to being on TRT. > > They do come in different sizes, but can be larger or smaller than > normal and could indicate an issue. > > Nickso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Thanks Phil for all your replies. ~Chip > > I got some Maca and after using it 1/2 a tsp 2 to 3 times a day my ball filled out again. > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 If I remember right, here is the list we did: CBC with diff Complete Metabolic Panel Celiac Panel Sed Rate Direct Vitamin Intake labs Carnitine level These gave us a clue what was going on metabolically and were needed for the GI except the Canitine which I did because it was helpful to so many kids on this board. I later checked copper and zinc levels because we had hair loss issues. There is more you can do in this regrd, minerals testing, which I am checking into through Dr. Agin. I think we may have even checked thyroid. Metals testing, I was told goes like this: Urine poryphin I think is the most drfinitive but nothing is truly definitive. I got lymes test from the DAN thriugh Labcorp as well and son was positive on the screen so we are following up. Lymes undetected in kids can cause symptoms like what our kids sometimes have so it is relevant. If your kid comes up positive on the screen you have to get the 16 Band Western Blot test to be sure it is Lymes. In my kid we are pretty sure it is a false positive autoimmune thing present in other family members. I did purchase a hair elements test to check for meals but here it sits...too chicken to do it yet. It will only tell you what they excreted over the last 3 months. Not the best test but for us it may be helpful since we had hair loss. I also got the poop and pee excretion tests (no chelator involved as, if you ask me, my kids are excreting as fast as I am comfortable with right now) from the Dan over a minth again. I am chicken but will eventually do them. Others can givve you more detail. Colleen Somerville has done a lot for her son Charlie by going to a number of doctors and keeping each in the loop. She did get some sort of testing that semed to help her target therapies for her little boy with great success so you may want to ask her about that. Hope this helps! L > > > At one point I had a list of the tests that I could have administered, but I accidentially deleted them. Can someone give them to me again? This is the bloodwork to check for toxicity, etc..... > > At one point, my son's speech therapist said that she was leaning toward a diagnosis of apraxia. He had no real words at that time. After I gave him fish oil, he immediately became verbal. She hasn't said anything since that time. I have seen indications of motor planning issues (searching, etc), as well as other signs of apraxia, but no diagnosis. His searching seems to improve more and more when I increase the fish oil. She'd told me that they needed to look at how children speak in order to give a firm diagnosis of apraxia, but I don't really see her taking notes. Also, my son has always had limited mobility with his tongue. He can't move it to the right or touch his top lip. Any mobility he has comes from the oral motor practice over the last few months. The therapist says that he does not have oral motor apraxia. My questions are this: He's been in therapy since Apr. Should he have a diagnosis by now? He's receiving two hours of therapy per week. Is this enough? Is she correct iabout the oral apraxia thing? > _________________________________________________________________ > Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. > www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 , Sounds like my 2 year old. I increased speech to 3 x per week and insisted on OT. We are moving right along. Make sure you check Zinc, Bun, Carnatine. Follow Liz's list that she sent you. But make sure you get the Zinc, BUN, carnatine and B12. See where they are high or low. Are you using vitamin E? Then set an appt with Dorfman www.kellydorfman.com over the phone with your results. Start working with her. She has been a tremendous help. I use and a DAN! Doc. Good Luck and feel free to email me off line if you choose or on line if fine too. How ever I can help. Colleen Mother of Charlie 27 months [ ] A Few Questions At one point I had a list of the tests that I could have administered, but I accidentially deleted them. Can someone give them to me again? This is the bloodwork to check for toxicity, etc..... At one point, my son's speech therapist said that she was leaning toward a diagnosis of apraxia. He had no real words at that time. After I gave him fish oil, he immediately became verbal. She hasn't said anything since that time. I have seen indications of motor planning issues (searching, etc), as well as other signs of apraxia, but no diagnosis. His searching seems to improve more and more when I increase the fish oil. She'd told me that they needed to look at how children speak in order to give a firm diagnosis of apraxia, but I don't really see her taking notes. Also, my son has always had limited mobility with his tongue. He can't move it to the right or touch his top lip. Any mobility he has comes from the oral motor practice over the last few months. The therapist says that he does not have oral motor apraxia. My questions are this: He's been in therapy since Apr. Should he have a diagnosis by now? He's receiving two hours of therapy per week. Is this enough? Is she correct iabout the oral apraxia thing? __________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Colleen, Can you tell me what Charlie's OT needs are/were and what improvement you saw? L > > , > > Sounds like my 2 year old. I increased speech to 3 x per week and insisted > on OT. We are moving right along. Make sure you check Zinc, Bun, Carnatine. > Follow Liz's list that she sent you. But make sure you get the Zinc, BUN, > carnatine and B12. See where they are high or low. Are you using vitamin E? > > Then set an appt with Dorfman www.kellydorfman.com over the phone with > your results. Start working with her. She has been a tremendous help. I use > and a DAN! Doc. > > Good Luck and feel free to email me off line if you choose or on line if > fine too. How ever I can help. > > Colleen > > Mother of Charlie 27 months > > [ ] A Few Questions > > > > > At one point I had a list of the tests that I could have administered, but I > accidentially deleted them. Can someone give them to me again? This is the > bloodwork to check for toxicity, etc..... > > At one point, my son's speech therapist said that she was leaning toward a > diagnosis of apraxia. He had no real words at that time. After I gave him > fish oil, he immediately became verbal. She hasn't said anything since that > time. I have seen indications of motor planning issues (searching, etc), as > well as other signs of apraxia, but no diagnosis. His searching seems to > improve more and more when I increase the fish oil. She'd told me that they > needed to look at how children speak in order to give a firm diagnosis of > apraxia, but I don't really see her taking notes. Also, my son has always > had limited mobility with his tongue. He can't move it to the right or touch > his top lip. Any mobility he has comes from the oral motor practice over the > last few months. The therapist says that he does not have oral motor > apraxia. My questions are this: He's been in therapy since Apr. Should he > have a diagnosis by now? He's receiving two hours of therapy per week. Is > this enough? Is she correct iabout the oral apraxia thing? > __________________________________________________________ > Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. > www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 If you check zinc you need to check copper too. If that ratio is out of balance then thinks can go south. Dr. told me to check that because of hair loss in my kids. The levels came out ok and my kids sound the opposite of the typical kid on this board...they don't get sick much and when they do they improve from a learning standpoint. I think that is the metal part of my kids that may not be present in others. No way to know...just my guess. I do what we all do...look at the board hoping to find similarities and hope. I do think mineral tests are like vitamin intakes though...they tell you what it is the blood but not what is going on at the cellular level. Not sure how or if you can know that. I think there are levels of testing but none completely conclusive. Lastly, while our levels were OK I did notice when we filtered our water there was copper excess and I also noticed the white spots on nails indicating zinc loss. I added zinc to my multi in minute amounts and cleared that up. > > , > > Sounds like my 2 year old. I increased speech to 3 x per week and insisted > on OT. We are moving right along. Make sure you check Zinc, Bun, Carnatine. > Follow Liz's list that she sent you. But make sure you get the Zinc, BUN, > carnatine and B12. See where they are high or low. Are you using vitamin E? > > Then set an appt with Dorfman www.kellydorfman.com over the phone with > your results. Start working with her. She has been a tremendous help. I use > and a DAN! Doc. > > Good Luck and feel free to email me off line if you choose or on line if > fine too. How ever I can help. > > Colleen > > Mother of Charlie 27 months > > [ ] A Few Questions > > > > > At one point I had a list of the tests that I could have administered, but I > accidentially deleted them. Can someone give them to me again? This is the > bloodwork to check for toxicity, etc..... > > At one point, my son's speech therapist said that she was leaning toward a > diagnosis of apraxia. He had no real words at that time. After I gave him > fish oil, he immediately became verbal. She hasn't said anything since that > time. I have seen indications of motor planning issues (searching, etc), as > well as other signs of apraxia, but no diagnosis. His searching seems to > improve more and more when I increase the fish oil. She'd told me that they > needed to look at how children speak in order to give a firm diagnosis of > apraxia, but I don't really see her taking notes. Also, my son has always > had limited mobility with his tongue. He can't move it to the right or touch > his top lip. Any mobility he has comes from the oral motor practice over the > last few months. The therapist says that he does not have oral motor > apraxia. My questions are this: He's been in therapy since Apr. Should he > have a diagnosis by now? He's receiving two hours of therapy per week. Is > this enough? Is she correct iabout the oral apraxia thing? > __________________________________________________________ > Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. > www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Charlie's OT needs are at least once a week. Of course, I would want more because I am just down right obnoxious about all of this stuff. His OT is pretty experienced - 20 + years. She sees him for 1 hour per week. She does a great job. She said to focus primarily on speech and motor skills for motor planning. We make sure that we do wheelbarrow races with him or have him attempt walking up the stairs on his arms while we hold his legs. (Pretty tough). We do a lot of stuff on the exercise ball. We sit him on it and do 10 little monkeys jumping on the bed... then we kind of push him back on the ball so to speak and he does a sit up to get back up. We try and make everything fun. Lots of stuff outside and plenty of playground stuff. Hope this helps! [ ] A Few Questions > > > > > At one point I had a list of the tests that I could have administered, but I > accidentially deleted them. Can someone give them to me again? This is the > bloodwork to check for toxicity, etc..... > > At one point, my son's speech therapist said that she was leaning toward a > diagnosis of apraxia. He had no real words at that time. After I gave him > fish oil, he immediately became verbal. She hasn't said anything since that > time. I have seen indications of motor planning issues (searching, etc), as > well as other signs of apraxia, but no diagnosis. His searching seems to > improve more and more when I increase the fish oil. She'd told me that they > needed to look at how children speak in order to give a firm diagnosis of > apraxia, but I don't really see her taking notes. Also, my son has always > had limited mobility with his tongue. He can't move it to the right or touch > his top lip. Any mobility he has comes from the oral motor practice over the > last few months. The therapist says that he does not have oral motor > apraxia. My questions are this: He's been in therapy since Apr. Should he > have a diagnosis by now? He's receiving two hours of therapy per week. Is > this enough? Is she correct iabout the oral apraxia thing? > __________________________________________________________ > Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. > www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hi Carol, In regard to clinical trials involving LDN, some have been completed, some are currently underway, and some are in the planning stage. For more information about LDN-related research, visit http://tinyurl.com/2cgqw6 In my opinion, neither Neurontin nor Lyrica should be incompatible with LDN. In regard to your questions about 4-AP, I suggest you contact Skip directly at slenzrph@... There is more to treating MS than just LDN and 4-AP. To learn more, visit http://tinyurl.com/grpm9 With best wishes, Dudley [low dose naltrexone] A few questions Dudley, Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I have been a member of the group since I started LDN mid august. I am happy to have stopped Avonex after 9 yrs. I was ready for a change. My biggest MS issues are numbness, weak right leg and balance and stiffness. I have some questions regarding LDN. I reviewed your thorough site and have printed out some info. Particularlywhat drugs not to use. I facilitate a self help group for MS and several are Beta Seron users. Their Neuro is a die hard crab believer. Adamently against LDN due to lack of clinical trials ifo. Anyway, my friends have site reactions and one in particular is plagued with lumps. She now has pain everytime she injects. The drug company nor her Doc can give her any advice on this problem. I told her to get on LDN she would have to stop Beta. She is one of the original users at least 13 yrs. She has a seizure history and one of her chieg compalints is severe burning. She takes 3000mg of Neurotin. Is Neurotin and Lyrica allowed with LDN. I suggested she talk to her primary but don't know if she is brave enough to stop the beta. For myself, I have seen posts that many on LDN also take 4-AP. I'd like to incorporate that. I know it is common to combine the two. It is also compounded. I read somewhere it is prescribed relative to weight. Is this true? I know you need to be careful so that you don't risk seizure. Are there any other side effects i should watch for. I have e-mailed skip throuh Cyndi but have not heard back. Your help is appreciated Sincerely, Carol Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Please get me off of this news group...I requested this before and it didnt' happen...I can't stand all these emails.. dlwierzba@... -----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ]On Behalf Of Dudley DelanySent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:34 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] A few questions Hi Carol,In regard to clinical trials involving LDN, some have been completed, some are currently underway, and some are in the planning stage. For more information about LDN-related research, visithttp://tinyurl.com/2cgqw6In my opinion, neither Neurontin nor Lyrica should be incompatible with LDN.In regard to your questions about 4-AP, I suggest you contact Skip directly atslenzrphaolThere is more to treating MS than just LDN and 4-AP. To learn more, visithttp://tinyurl.com/grpm9With best wishes,Dudley-----Original Message-----From: HunterHi1comcast (DOT) netSent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:35 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] A few questionsDudley,Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I have been a member of the group since I started LDN mid august. I am happy to have stopped Avonex after 9 yrs. I was ready for a change. My biggest MS issues are numbness, weak right leg and balance and stiffness. I have some questions regarding LDN. I reviewed your thorough site and have printed out some info. Particularlywhat drugs not to use. I facilitate a self help group for MS and several are Beta Seron users. Their Neuro is a die hard crabbeliever. Adamently against LDN due to lack of clinical trials ifo.Anyway, my friends have site reactions and one in particular is plagued with lumps. She now has pain everytime she injects. The drug company nor her Doc can give her any advice on this problem. I told her to get on LDN she would have to stop Beta. She is one of the original users at least 13 yrs. She has a seizure history and one of her chieg compalints is severe burning. She takes 3000mg of Neurotin. Is Neurotin and Lyrica allowed with LDN. I suggested she talk to her primary but don't know if she is brave enough to stop the beta.For myself, I have seen posts that many on LDN also take 4-AP. I'd like to incorporate that. I know it is common to combine the two. It is also compounded. I read somewhere it is prescribed relative to weight. Is this true? I know you need to be careful so that you don't risk seizure. Are there any other side effects i should watch for. I have e-mailed skip throuh Cyndi but have not heard back. Your help is appreciatedSincerely,Carol Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hi Dave,Scroll to the bottom of this message and click on "Unsubscribe."Sorry to see you go!SIncerely,Dudley Delany dudley_delany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hi Traci, Have you done the Intro Diet for GAPS? There are some fantastic files on the " other " group GAPShelp group. In the intro diet, people have been using fermented veggie juice in their soups/bone broths. I think it's a fabulous pre-cultured veggie step. Yes, do get the BED book if you can both books are excellent. I have done both diets and continue to do a combination of both, but am finding that the GAP Intro is a great place to start especially if you don't have certain things in place yet such as bone broths, lots of veggies and fermented foods. I do ferment my dairy kefir for 24 hours. If you want to totally remove all the milk sugars, you would do a secondary fermentation (without the grains) for 1-2 more days after that. 24 hour is the golden standard of kefir fermentation according to my kefir lists. Dr. NCM suggests you wait on dairy and so does Donna Gates of BED. I would follow that advice although we didn't b/c I came into these diets after already having my son on kefir for over one year. If I had to do over, I would do it in the proper order allowing the gut to heal b/f introducing harder to digest things, but I do wholeheartedly believe in kefir and the role that it has played in my son's progress and recovery. Yes, you have to be choosy with probiotics. I am not currently using any, rather lots of fermented foods and drinks, but I believe in Bio-Kult from all the testimonies on the lists. If I had to buy one (and I think I will eventually) I would do that one b/c I know Dr. NCM has put effort into making that a good one for our kids. Blessings, Millie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Millie, I admit that I’m kind of sad that there is yet another group that I might need to join! And actually, the situation with my son was that the only 2 foods he even had in his diet that needed to be pulled in order to begin SCD was rice and sweet potatoes. We didn’t do an official intro diet, but he has been doing bone broth for a long time and only eats meat, fruit and vegetables. How do others use fermented veggie juice in their stocks? As for me, I am actually pregnant and I don’t have diarrhea, so I won’t be doing the intro diet. (In SCD the intro diet is listed as necessary only when diarrhea is present.) I have had issues with some grains for about a year, but after getting sick on vacation last month, I have been unable to tolerate most starches. Soooo….because I really hope that my second child will not have the food sensitivity issues that my son has, I am attempting to eat for healing while still nourishing a pregnancy. I definitely ferment kefir for 24 hours when I make it (though we’ve recently lost our grains!), it’s more that I am questioning the necessity of fermenting milk for myself if it is unpasteurized and therefore contains the enzymes to aid in digesting the lactose in the first place. Also, I question whether 24 hours is necessary for raw dairy as well, but I guess these are the kind of questions that would almost need to be addressed directly to Dr. NCM. Are you using raw or pasteurized dairy? After a month or so on SCD my son did seem able to tolerate 24 hour yogurt for a time, but has since become sensitive to it again. (And developed a campylobacter infection about the same time frame. Yoinks!) Thanks for the Bio-Kult recommendation. I can’t wait to check into it! We have used a pretty good one that my son tolerates made by a company called Pharmax. It is called “HLC Intensive Capsules.” We just pop open the capsules and it works pretty well. We also did use Natren’s healthy trinity and that helped us overcome the C.Diff, but recently he has seemed to have issues with that. Thank you for responding to my questions! I know I just wrote you a book, but I confess that I’m not used to having many to share our situation and diet with who actually gets it! Hope you have a great rest of the week! Traci From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Millie Krejci Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:56 PM To: Subject: [ ] Re:A few questions Hi Traci, Have you done the Intro Diet for GAPS? There are some fantastic files on the " other " group GAPShelp group. In the intro diet, people have been using fermented veggie juice in their soups/bone broths. I think it's a fabulous pre-cultured veggie step. Yes, do get the BED book if you can both books are excellent. I have done both diets and continue to do a combination of both, but am finding that the GAP Intro is a great place to start especially if you don't have certain things in place yet such as bone broths, lots of veggies and fermented foods. I do ferment my dairy kefir for 24 hours. If you want to totally remove all the milk sugars, you would do a secondary fermentation (without the grains) for 1-2 more days after that. 24 hour is the golden standard of kefir fermentation according to my kefir lists. Dr. NCM suggests you wait on dairy and so does Donna Gates of BED. I would follow that advice although we didn't b/c I came into these diets after already having my son on kefir for over one year. If I had to do over, I would do it in the proper order allowing the gut to heal b/f introducing harder to digest things, but I do wholeheartedly believe in kefir and the role that it has played in my son's progress and recovery. Yes, you have to be choosy with probiotics. I am not currently using any, rather lots of fermented foods and drinks, but I believe in Bio-Kult from all the testimonies on the lists. If I had to buy one (and I think I will eventually) I would do that one b/c I know Dr. NCM has put effort into making that a good one for our kids. Blessings, Millie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hi, Traci, On Aug 26, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Ben and Traci Youngquist wrote: I have had issues with some grains for about a year, but after getting sick on vacation last month, I have been unable to tolerate most starches. I just posted a long post on the "other" list (Gaps Help) ;-) about the science behind this whole thing. You can join and do a search for my email address and pull it up very easily.Anyhow, in a nutshell, the issue with not being able to digest grains or starches has to do with a lack of microvilli in your digestive tract. Microvilli are the grass-like hairs that cover the digestive tract in a healthy gut. When you have a leaky/damaged gut, you have little to no microvilli.The microvilli is what secretes the enzymes necessary for digesting starches and all complex carbohydrates. If you don't have the microvilli, you are not excreting enzymes and you won't be able to digest that stuff.So the fact that you are having trouble digesting starches leads me to believe that you may very well be lacking in the microvilli department.Soooo….because I really hope that my second child will not have the food sensitivity issues that my son has, I am attempting to eat for healing while still nourishing a pregnancy.Your unborn baby will inherit your gut flora -- and hence your sensitivities. Unless you heal your gut. The way to heal the gut is to stop eating starches and all complex carbs in order to let the gut heal, while you repopulate with good flora, and rebuild the gut wall (and grow that microvilli).I think you can eat a GAPS diet that is very nourishing for pregnancy. Lots of bone broth, coconut milk, coconut oil, duck and chicken fat, lard, eggs, meats, fish, shell fish, and organ meats. You really don't need starches or grains -- or even dairy -- to eat a highly nourishing diet and support a growing baby.I'm not familiar with those probiotics you listed. I've tried lots of probiotics and had no luck. I think most of them do not work very well.I am however, a strong believer in BioKult. I have also had good results with ThreeLac.Millie has a pretty amazing protocol that does not require storebought probiotics -- she just uses kefir and she also feeds the kefir grains directly to her son.Ann Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 A few questions: 1. Is there a ratio of grams of fat to grams of carbs to slow down insulin release? Jordan Rubin says in his book " Perfect Weight America " to " never eat your carbs naked " . To eat them with fat to slow down the conversion of the carb to sugar and reduce the insulin release. However, he doesn't indicate how many grams of fat you need to eat for how many grams of carbs. Is there a guideline? I love carrots for a crunchy snack but I know it must cause a blood sugar spike when I eat them. 2. In Nourishing Traditions, Sally says that to get the Vitamin A out of the sweet potato, you must eat it with fat because it requires bile to get the vitamin A. I've heard others say the same is true of carrots. What should people without a gall bladder do to get the vitamin A out of the orange veggie? Thanks, Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 > I don't think coconut oil counts as a fat because the body digests it immediately. Kathy I don't how the mechanism works, if fat reduces the glycemic impact on the body. Does Jordan say coconut doesn't count towards this action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 No, its personal experience. Coconut oil is the only oil I eat that doesn't trigger a bile release. Kathy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Cray Fish Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: A few questions > I don't think coconut oil counts as a fat because the body digests it immediately. Kathy I don't how the mechanism works, if fat reduces the glycemic impact on the body. Does Jordan say coconut doesn't count towards this action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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