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Breast cancer action is one of my favorite charities ­ one of the few that

looks for the Œcauses¹ of cancer instead of just treating it once it has

happened. They also started the think before you pink campaign.

On 2/17/09 9:24 AM, " haecklers " <haecklers@...> wrote:

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> Yes, but what about your favorite charities? I've been asking the ones

> I support whether they distribute powdered milk and GM seeds as food

> aid and none will answer me. I'm starting to worry that no answer

> means the answer is one I won't like.

>

> Lately Navdanya, the charity started by Vandana Shiva is the only one I

> feel good about - she is a wise woman!

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>> > Nestle also violates the World Health Organization's guidelines about

>> > marketing infant formula to poor women. It gives them free formula,

>> > which causes their milk supply to dry up, and then they are mixing

>> > formula with unsafe drinking water, and babies get sick and often die.

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>> > I boycott Nestle, so should anyone who believes such actions are

> unjust.

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>> > Desh

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This is something I struggle with, too. My church has a food pantry and the list

of stuff they need is atrocious! I don't buy that stuff! But, that is what the

people that get help from the food pantry eat. So, do I refuse to help them

because I disagree with their food choices? That sure doesn't feel right!

Kathy

---- haecklers <haecklers@...> wrote:

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Yes, but what about your favorite charities? I've been asking the ones

I support whether they distribute powdered milk and GM seeds as food

aid and none will answer me. I'm starting to worry that no answer

means the answer is one I won't like.

Lately Navdanya, the charity started by Vandana Shiva is the only one I

feel good about - she is a wise woman!

--- In , De Bell-Frantz <deshabell@...>

wrote:

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> Nestle also violates the World Health Organization's guidelines about

> marketing infant formula to poor women. It gives them free formula,

> which causes their milk supply to dry up, and then they are mixing

> formula with unsafe drinking water, and babies get sick and often die.

>

> I boycott Nestle, so should anyone who believes such actions are

unjust.

>

> Desh

> ____________________________________________________________

> Need cash? Click to get a cash advance.

>

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I worked the food pantry for awhile. It is heartbreaking. I buy

healthier canned goods to donate now but I couldn't let myself care how

unhealthy the canned processed foods were that I was handing out, at

least the children wouldn't go hungry that night. =(

Dawn

Kathy Dickson wrote:

>

> This is something I struggle with, too. My church has a food pantry

> and the list of stuff they need is atrocious! I don't buy that stuff!

> But, that is what the people that get help from the food pantry eat.

> So, do I refuse to help them because I disagree with their food

> choices? That sure doesn't feel right!

>

> Kathy

> ---- haecklers <haecklers@... <mailto:haecklers%40>>

> wrote:

>

> =============

> Yes, but what about your favorite charities? I've been asking the ones

> I support whether they distribute powdered milk and GM seeds as food

> aid and none will answer me. I'm starting to worry that no answer

> means the answer is one I won't like.

>

> Lately Navdanya, the charity started by Vandana Shiva is the only one I

> feel good about - she is a wise woman!

>

>

> >

> > Nestle also violates the World Health Organization's guidelines about

> > marketing infant formula to poor women. It gives them free formula,

> > which causes their milk supply to dry up, and then they are mixing

> > formula with unsafe drinking water, and babies get sick and often die.

> >

> > I boycott Nestle, so should anyone who believes such actions are

> unjust.

> >

> > Desh

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Need cash? Click to get a cash advance.

> >

> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1hEQFRdMWNHME7ec9j2uvl

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Dawn,

> I worked the food pantry for awhile. It is heartbreaking. I buy

> healthier canned goods to donate now but I couldn't let myself care how

> unhealthy the canned processed foods were that I was handing out, at

> least the children wouldn't go hungry that night. =(

>

> Dawn

I understand.

I have offered to buy the homeless food and I leave out any judgments

as to what I would eat. After all I'm not the one who is hungry and

homeless. Now they usually give me a song and dance when I offer to

buy them anything they want to eat within a few minutes of where we

are standing (because usually they want the cash for something other

than food) but still if they really wanted to eat I wouldn't object

because they chose to go to Mcs.

Standing on the corner with a hungry person or family is not the place

to be dealing with the larger issues of poverty, adequate nutrition,

and homelessness, IMO. I say feed them first and then we can move on

from there. That is a little different from the food pantry issue

however, since the people who need to be educated are the ones

donating the food. I have often thought of buying my own bag of

groceries and giving them to the poor on Sunday afternoons. Would they

eat them? Those who are really hungry would as hunger is the greatest

sauce there is, but those who have other charitable options probably

would not.

--

It doesn't matter how many people don't get it. What matters is how

many people do. If you have a strong informed opinion, don't keep it

to yourself. Try and help people and make the world a better place. If

you strive to do anything remotely interesting, just expect a small

percentage of the population to always find a way to take it

personally. F*ck 'em. There are no statues erected to critics.

- Ferriss

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Hi ,

We had someone donating cases of Amy's Organic soups. Still not 100%

healthy but great compared to the MSG and corn syrup in 's it is.

No one wanted it. They'd ask for something else if they saw it, some

would even bring it back.

Im not talking the no chicken noodle soup but the fairly decent tomato

soups and what not.

Ah well.

Dawn

wrote:

>

> Dawn,

>

> > I worked the food pantry for awhile. It is heartbreaking. I buy

> > healthier canned goods to donate now but I couldn't let myself care how

> > unhealthy the canned processed foods were that I was handing out, at

> > least the children wouldn't go hungry that night. =(

> >

> > Dawn

>

> I understand.

>

> I have offered to buy the homeless food and I leave out any judgments

> as to what I would eat. After all I'm not the one who is hungry and

> homeless. Now they usually give me a song and dance when I offer to

> buy them anything they want to eat within a few minutes of where we

> are standing (because usually they want the cash for something other

> than food) but still if they really wanted to eat I wouldn't object

> because they chose to go to Mcs.

>

> Standing on the corner with a hungry person or family is not the place

> to be dealing with the larger issues of poverty, adequate nutrition,

> and homelessness, IMO. I say feed them first and then we can move on

> from there. That is a little different from the food pantry issue

> however, since the people who need to be educated are the ones

> donating the food. I have often thought of buying my own bag of

> groceries and giving them to the poor on Sunday afternoons. Would they

> eat them? Those who are really hungry would as hunger is the greatest

> sauce there is, but those who have other charitable options probably

> would not.

>

>

> --

> It doesn't matter how many people don't get it. What matters is how

> many people do. If you have a strong informed opinion, don't keep it

> to yourself. Try and help people and make the world a better place. If

> you strive to do anything remotely interesting, just expect a small

> percentage of the population to always find a way to take it

> personally. F*ck 'em. There are no statues erected to critics.

>

> - Ferriss

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Dawn,

> Hi ,

>

> We had someone donating cases of Amy's Organic soups. Still not 100%

> healthy but great compared to the MSG and corn syrup in 's it is.

>

> No one wanted it. They'd ask for something else if they saw it, some

> would even bring it back.

>

> Im not talking the no chicken noodle soup but the fairly decent tomato

> soups and what not.

>

> Ah well.

Well there you go. As long as other options exist, they won't eat the

stuff. It reminds me of Stefansson and his explorers on the all meat

diet. Give them six months exclusively on an all meat diet, and they

would never go back. With other options available, it just wasn't

happening (i.e.eating all meat). Like I said, the best tasting sauce

in the world is hunger.

--

It doesn't matter how many people don't get it. What matters is how

many people do. If you have a strong informed opinion, don't keep it

to yourself. Try and help people and make the world a better place. If

you strive to do anything remotely interesting, just expect a small

percentage of the population to always find a way to take it

personally. F*ck 'em. There are no statues erected to critics.

- Ferriss

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Being in a similar position myself (with WIC's not so great foods), I really

can't help but to say: " Beggars can't be choosers " . I'd really question

anyone who goes to a food bank supposedly in need who turns away what

they're offered - healthy or not.

-Lana

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dawn <blaidd1@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> We had someone donating cases of Amy's Organic soups. Still not 100%

> healthy but great compared to the MSG and corn syrup in 's it is.

>

> No one wanted it. They'd ask for something else if they saw it, some

> would even bring it back.

>

> Im not talking the no chicken noodle soup but the fairly decent tomato

> soups and what not.

>

> Ah well.

>

> Dawn

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Hi Lana,

While intellectually that's true I saw those sad, hungry faces of their

kids. Perhaps they were hoping for something more filling or who knows.

Also we had more than a few that we living out of a car or who knows and

had to have pop top cans and food that didn't have to be cooked.

We didn't keep much refrigerated food but we did have some milk for

people with small children.

Dawn

Lana Gibbons wrote:

>

> Being in a similar position myself (with WIC's not so great foods), I

> really

> can't help but to say: " Beggars can't be choosers " . I'd really question

> anyone who goes to a food bank supposedly in need who turns away what

> they're offered - healthy or not.

> -Lana

>

> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dawn <blaidd1@...

> <mailto:blaidd1%40pendraig.com>> wrote:

>

> > Hi ,

> >

> > We had someone donating cases of Amy's Organic soups. Still not 100%

> > healthy but great compared to the MSG and corn syrup in 's

> it is.

> >

> > No one wanted it. They'd ask for something else if they saw it, some

> > would even bring it back.

> >

> > Im not talking the no chicken noodle soup but the fairly decent tomato

> > soups and what not.

> >

> > Ah well.

> >

> > Dawn

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> While intellectually that's true I saw those sad, hungry faces of their

> kids. Perhaps they were hoping for something more filling or who knows.

>

I don't get this argument - then just eat two, you know? It isn't like

they're paying for it...

> Also we had more than a few that we living out of a car or who knows and

> had to have pop top cans and food that didn't have to be cooked.

This I totally understand, and is not what I was referring to when I made

the comment. :)

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Volunteer at the pantry. Get to know the people and find out what real

problem is. Establish relationships and educate them how to eat

healthier (which is often cheaper too).

Pete

Kathy Dickson wrote:

>

> This is something I struggle with, too. My church has a food pantry

> and the list of stuff they need is atrocious! I don't buy that stuff!

> But, that is what the people that get help from the food pantry eat.

> So, do I refuse to help them because I disagree with their food

> choices? That sure doesn't feel right!

>

> Kathy

> ---- haecklers <haecklers@... <mailto:haecklers%40>>

> wrote:

>

> =============

> Yes, but what about your favorite charities? I've been asking the ones

> I support whether they distribute powdered milk and GM seeds as food

> aid and none will answer me. I'm starting to worry that no answer

> means the answer is one I won't like.

>

> Lately Navdanya, the charity started by Vandana Shiva is the only one I

> feel good about - she is a wise woman!

>

>

> >

> > Nestle also violates the World Health Organization's guidelines about

> > marketing infant formula to poor women. It gives them free formula,

> > which causes their milk supply to dry up, and then they are mixing

> > formula with unsafe drinking water, and babies get sick and often die.

> >

> > I boycott Nestle, so should anyone who believes such actions are

> unjust.

> >

> > Desh

> > __________________________________________________________

> > Need cash? Click to get a cash advance.

> >

> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1hEQFRdMWNHME7ec9j2uvl

> <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1hEQFRdMWNHME7ec9j2uvl>

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