MSG in Nutritional Yeast? was Re: Stefansson's Book Online

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--- I think Tom makes a good point though; I had soup (clam chowder)

with msg in it tonight (I wouldn't have if I'd read the ingredients

before purchasing but oh well...) It was good but definitely no 'gimme

more' and there was lots of salt in there too. Also there is just so

much you can eat of Chinese food! I think it is the addictive nature

of carbs too-- plus as you say all that salt and (as I say)the fat

added to the popcorn. I am quite addicted to cheese and it may have

something to do with feeding a yeast overgrowth...maybe the cheese in

the popcorn you ate too?(Don't mind me I love to argue a point. ) S

Kathy

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> --- Tom Jeanne <tjeanne@> wrote:

> > Do you really attribute that " gimmie more " sensation to MSG alone?

> > My opinion is that processed foods high in carbohydrates are the

> > number one " gimmie more " item. When I was a teenager I would wolf

> > down bowl after bowl of breakfast cereal--I couldn't get

> > enough--and I'm pretty sure there's no significant MSG in most of

> > them. Natural breads do the same thing. It's the addictive nature

> > of processed carbs.

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> Tom, when I tried a low fat diet many years ago, I tried some plain

> unsalted unbuttered popcorn. I had to force myself to eat it.

> Definitely no gimme more sensation! For me, added sugar, salt, and

> MSG (which is a type of salt) all contribute to over-eating. I don't

> seem to have a problem eating starchy foods that don't have these

> additives. I bet that cereal you were over-eating had lots of added

> sugar and/or salt. Likewise with most breads these days. Try eating

> plain bread that has no salt or sugar added. I might be able to eat

> it with some butter, but I wouldn't get that gimme more sensation.

>

> I eat a lot more nuts if they're salted than if they're not salted. I

> suspect people wouldn't eat near as many potato chips if they had no

> salt. In fact, I remember eating low-salt baked potato chips when I

> was doing low-fat, but don't remember wanting to eat lots. But if I

> ate something salty, I'd then want something sweet. And vice versa.

> I think adding glutamate into the salty mix just adds fuel to the

> fire. It also makes many foods taste meatier and thus more appealing

> to most of us. An easy way to make fake food that tastes meaty, but

> isn't.

>

> > Secondly, isn't MSG naturally present in small amounts in certain

> > natural foods (bone broth?), and I don't find them addicting.

>

> Yes, it is. But I suspect the main problem with glutamate is when it

> is isolated from other amino acids, as in MSG added to starchy snacks,

> or when it is greatly out of proportion to what is found in natural

> foods, relative to other amino acids. It might be the imbalance that

> causes problems for people who are sensitive, but I haven't seen any

> studies on this. Bone broth should have a more natural balance of

> glutamate with other free amino acids and consequently may be less

> problematic. Just a guess.

>

> I have read that some people who are sensitive to MSG have problems

> with bone broth. However, my wife, who claims to be sensitive to MSG

> (gives her headaches) makes bone broth and loves it made into soup, no

> problem. But she can go to a chinese restaurant and eat a bowl of

> soup loaded with MSG and very quickly get a headache. Could be a

> thing of relative amounts too, I suppose. I have never managed to eat

> enough MSG to have noticeable problems, despite trying on many

> occasions in the past before knowing any better

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