Re: chefs create healthy meals on Oprah

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> anyway, it just makes me crazy to see this stuff.

> amanda

You are worse than me even. Why do you watch it?

There are some train wrecks I keep watching; can't believe it.

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She's just passing the brain washing on.

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> ha! yeah, i don't know why i watch it. actually i have only been watching

daytime tv the past 2 weeks b/c i have been sick. i actually naively believed

today would be a good one since they were going to show people how to feed

families of 4 for very little and still " cook " healthy meals. i am always

looking for ideas or full weekly menus that i can copy since that is not my

forte. i knew oprah was a low-fat guru, but i guess i thought maybe these other

guys would know better. not. it's just pathetic that the most famous face on

television can brainwash millions into believing her crap.

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> > ha! yeah, i don't know why i watch it.

ha me too on mine

>> how to feed families of 4 for very little and

> still " cook " healthy meals. i am always looking

> for ideas or full weekly menus that i can copy

> since that is not my forte.

Have you seen the menu mailers from Flylady? pretty nice and easy to WAPify.

> it's just pathetic that the most famous face on

> television can brainwash millions into believing her crap.

I think her " must have " is only doing things that will give her millions of

followers, hence the most famous face. Whatever sells to the most which means

articulating whatever people already believe.

Therefore she can only go get mainstream advice-givers because if she left the

mainstream, there goes the 'main stream' of followers and money. And we know

where the mainstream is for diet and fitness, alas.

Connie

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" ...are there any chefs out there in the mainstream who do not do low-fat and

really believe in good whole animal products? "

I think there are--do you watch Top Chef? Every so often they do a

product-sponsored challenge that includes " healthy, low fat, blah blah blah " but

it's the exception. Good quality, whole foods are the norm.

Joanna

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There are magazines like Cook's Illustrated I stopped subscribing to, or reading

at all, a few years back. They are so full of weird mixed messages. They're

trying to " low fat-ify " some things, and then they still have baked goods

recipes with the butter. Plus, I don't learn anything from CI anymore. There

are far better places to learn about cooking (apparently not Oprah).

I was e-mailed an alternative recipe for pancakes by a family member (I made Sue

Gregg's soaked ones at her house, where you use the blender, and I use 1/2 c

oats 1/2 c buckwheat whole with buttermilk). I think she was probably trying to

say " hey look gluten-free pancakes you don't have to soak! " as if I mind the

soaking bit (and I guess she doesn't understand what it does for the flavor!).

We did talk about how silly it seemed that they wanted you to use low-fat milk

AND butter in the same recipe, like they were trying to keep the fat down...sort

of...but then recognized it wouldn't taste very good without butter.

By the way, I LOVE those pancakes! And if I eat too many, I just end up not

being able to eat for hours. All that fat and stuff really holds me, and not in

a bad way. Sometimes I've eaten food and the problem is that I don't digest it

for all those hours - was more of a problem when I ate grains in that gluten

family.

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> did anyone watch Oprah today? i just don't get how celebrity chefs who know

how to do anything in the kitchen *still* cling to the low-fat, non-fat, extra

lean, mentality and call it healthy! i am appalled at what they were cooking,

especially for the kids! how can anyone get through the day on so little food,

for one thing, but also practically fat free!

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> and then on her " food " page on the website where you can find all the recipes

and menus from these chefs, there is a menu by Dr. Weil. how can he possibly

think egg whites only are good for anyone?!! i don't trust that guy one bit, but

man, this is so sad! are there any chefs out there in the mainstream who do not

do low-fat and really believe in good whole animal products?

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Martha still cooks with butter and cream.

Joan

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> > did anyone watch Oprah today? i just don't get how celebrity chefs who know

how to do anything in the kitchen *still* cling to the low-fat, non-fat, extra

lean, mentality and call it healthy! i am appalled at what they were cooking,

especially for the kids! how can anyone get through the day on so little food,

for one thing, but also practically fat free!

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> > and then on her " food " page on the website where you can find all the

recipes and menus from these chefs, there is a menu by Dr. Weil. how can he

possibly think egg whites only are good for anyone?!! i don't trust that guy one

bit, but man, this is so sad! are there any chefs out there in the mainstream

who do not do low-fat and really believe in good whole animal products?

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