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have you tried Fast-5?

http://www.fast-5.com/

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> Hi,everyone!

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> I took a break from this list, but was an active member for years

> before that. I hope some of the folks I know are still around!

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> I was someone who had a lifelong obesity problem who lost almost 200

> pounds over around 4 and a half years by doing Atkins using whole,

> nutritious foods very influenced by Dr. Price's work and " Nourishing

> Traditions, " and lifting weights.

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> Does anyone have any insight or suggestions for me on any of this? I'm

> really incredibly unhappy and willing to do almost anything healthy, I

> just don't know what the hell to do next!

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> Thank you very much,

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> Christie

How did I miss this? Sorry for the delay.

I was in your shoes. I do think it was hormonal. Basically I turned into a

fat-storing-around-the-middle machine.

What turned it around for me was following Kwasniewski-style low carb. The idea

of Kwasniewski is you get enough protein but no more, to give your liver and

adrenals a break. You get enough carb to stay out of hard ketosis, keep your

carb-burning enzymes, but little enough to force the production of fat burning.

And you have fat as your main macronutrient as it is hormonally easy on the bod.

Before, I always had plenty of protein. I now think it was too much and was

stimulating the cortisol-adrenal-insulin cascade.

And I didn't always have enough carbs in the form of simple starches. I would go

from nothing, to greens, to fruit. I now think that just overstimulated

gluconeogensis.

And I way didn't get enough saturated fat. I now think that got me stuck still

too much in sugar-burning, what with gluconeogenesis and the cortisol situation.

And I had too much fight-or-flight exercise, and not enough easy-does-it,

all-day-like-the-Amish exercise. Hard, short, intense. Stimulating cortisol,

adrenals, and not primarily fat burning (where did I think the glucose was

coming from?)

Anyhoo, I just love the results and feeling from this new protocol. It's working

too but not as fast as before.

Oh and I sleep 9+ hours a night. Like in " Lights Out. "

Just some ideas.

Connie

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Have you had your thyroid checked?

-PattyT

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> Does anyone have any insight or suggestions for me on any of this? I'm

> really incredibly unhappy and willing to do almost anything healthy, I

> just don't know what the hell to do next!

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Hi,

I would bet the farm you are hypothyroid. It really hits hard around menopause

time. My favorite people on this subject are Ray Peat and Lee. They

happen to be good friends with each other, I read everything of Ray Peat's and

consult with Lee.

www.raypeat.com

www.litalee.com

Book to read: Hypothyroid: The Unsuspecting Illness by Broda O . MD.

He has a chapter on weight loss with diet. Lee has a lot to say about diet

on her website. Both Peat and Lee do telephone consults but is an enzyme

therapist. I would consult with her because you probably would benefit from

enzymes. If she doesn't know something she asks Peat. They talk daily.

Extreme exercise makes a person hypothyroid due to the lactic acid.

http://members.westnet.com.au/pkolb/peat_ind.htm

Menopause sucks.

Joan

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> I would bet the farm you are hypothyroid. It really hits hard around

menopause time.

Good point. I was also waaaaay low on iodine - supplements took care of thyroid

function.

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Amount of carbs according to JK's ratio:

protein 58 g +/- 6

carb 30 g +/- 10

fat 75-100 g (JK recommends 116 g for me - hard to get that much)

Split over 3 equal sized meals.

I mostly do root vegetables. Idaho potatoes, sweet potatoes, parsnips, Daikon

radish, rutabaga. Make a big mash and reheat it.

I count the carbs in avocados and nuts.

I would count the carbs in other veggies if I had them much. Sometimes I have

leafy greens. I OD'd on asparagus and broccoli and am avoiding them for the time

being.

I also have grains once in a while, 2-3 meals a week. Nairn oat cakes " Fine " has

nothing but oats, palm oil, and salt I think. Or I might make a Dutch baby

pancake out of " gasp! " white flour soaked overnight in buttermilk. wow is that

good. But generally the soaking grains is more trouble than the root veggies,

for me.

Sometimes I have lentil sprouts. I really like em with butter but I have to

start 3-4 days early! (can you see the impulsive lazy cook pattern?)

Connie

> HI Connie,

>

> How many carbs a day do you eat and in what form?

>

> Pamela

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