Re: Food Survival WAP Style, was organic seeds

[Guest guest]

Leah,

> Can you go into more detail about what to load up on? Where could I

> get a large amount of ghee? In a survival situation, how would you

> use the ghee and cocnut milk? I understand the pemmican you just eat.

> Any other WAP survival techniques?

Most food storage programs put a huge emphasis on grain for various

reasons, some having to do with health and some having to do with

storage, erroneously on both counts IMO. You must have a goodly amount

of saturated fats whether you eat high carb, low carb or somewhere in

between.

The single most nourishing food is pemmican, it doesn't require

special storage, and it will outlast **any** type of food storage

program that is normally recommended. Properly made, you could

survive/thrive on pemmican alone if necessary. You can buy it online

(but it is relatively expensive) or you can learn to make it on your

own.

http://www.nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/index.php?topic=9.0

Ghee is easy to make in large amounts using your oven and it is

definitely cheaper to do so (the link below has a nice little you tube

explaining how to do it):

http://www.nutrition-and-physical-regeneration.com/index.php?topic=4.0

In a survival situation you would use it just like butter, for frying,

for adding to grains, root vegetables, baking, etc. You can't really

store butter so this is a great and healthy alternative.

For coconut milk you obviously would have to buy the cans. Unlike most

brands I have tried Whole Foods private label actually tastes good

relative to fresh and is also very inexpensive. One can (13.5 ounces)

has 660 calories and 60 grams of saturated fat (72 grams total). Many

times I pour off the liquid and just use the cream. You can use it

anywhere you would normally use milk. You can cook with it if you are

storing grains or you can sweeten it with honey and use it as a

topping on root vegetables or just mix and drink.

Other WAP style food items:

Honey

Coconut and palm oil

root vegetables if you have access to a root cellar

canned fish

vegetable ferments like kimchi and saurkraut

home canned vegetables

I didn't mention grains because that is standard fare with food

storage programs.

With the exception of making sure you have a good supply of healthy

animal fats that will keep without refrigeration, there aren't any

special WAP survival techniques in the event you find yourself

temporarily in a survival situation either for a few days, weeks, or

months. Going into survival techniques per se is a whole different

topic.

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[Guest guest]

Wouldn't you have to water bath them after you put the lids on? I'd love to can

my butter instead of using up freezer space but this just sounds too simple to

be true.

Belinda

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> I went to a Mother Earth News seminar back in the 70's where a woman taught us

how to can butter. She boiled the jars and lids and then quickly put the sticks

of butter in the jar and sealed them while still hot. Occassionally there was a

seal that didn't take, but most did.

>

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[Guest guest]

I thought I would add this. It is from a Sarajevo war survivor.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm

The 100 items to disappear first in Sarajevo at the start of the war

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of

thieves; maintenance etc.)

2. Water Filters/Purifiers

3. Portable Toilets

4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried,

for home uses.

5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile

ANY!)

6. Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.

7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.

8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.

9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar

10. Rice - Beans - Wheat

11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)

12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)

13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR

PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.

16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.

17. Survival Guide Book.

18. Mantles: Aladdin, , etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is

difficult.)

19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.

20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)

21. Cookstoves (Propane, & Kerosene)

22. Vitamins

23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous

without this item)

24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.

25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)

26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)

27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)

28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)

29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).

30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels

31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)

32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)

33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)

34. 's Pump Repair Kit

35. Tuna Fish (in oil)

36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)

37. First aid kits

38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)

39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies

40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)

41. Flour, yeast & salt

42. Matches. { " Strike Anywhere " preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first

43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators

44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)

45. Work-boots, belts, Levis & durable shirts

46. Flashlights/lightsticks & torches, " No. 76 Dietz " Lanterns

47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience;

Historic Times)

48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with

wheels)

49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers,

etc

50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)

51. Fishing supplies/tools

52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams

53. Duct Tape

54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes

55. Candles

56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)

57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags

58. Garden tools & supplies

59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies

60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.

61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)

62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)

63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel

64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc

65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats

66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)

67. Board Games, Cards, Dice

68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer

69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets

70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)

71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)

72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.

73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)

74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)

75. Soy Sauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soup bases

76. Reading glasses

77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)

78. " Survival-in-a-Can "

79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens

80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog

81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)

82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky

83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts

84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)

85. Lumber (all types)

86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)

87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's

88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.

89. Lantern Hangers

90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts

91. Teas

92. Coffee

93. Cigarettes

94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)

95. Paraffin wax

96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.

97. Chewing gum/candies

98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)

99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs

100. Goats/chickens

From a Sarajevo War Survivor:

Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and

friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate

near renewable food sources.

2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.

3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war

quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.

4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to

do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)

5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without

heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of

the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs

enough heat to " warm " , not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in

bulk.

6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more

valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival

guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll

have a lot of time on your hands.

7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many

people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of

toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to

lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.

8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches