Re: off topic request, need advice, please help

[Guest guest]

Can't help you with a doctor but have you tried Motherwort Tincture?

Belinda

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> Hi folks, I am a lurker. And need some advice. Does anyone on this group know

of a good source of info on a more natural approach to easeing menopause

symptoms? I have been at this for several years and am at the breaking point. I

am allergic to soy. Have tried every combo of herbs, and really good topical

creams. Need more help. How do I find a good Dr with a more natural approach?

Getting desperate in Grand Rapids MI.

>

[Guest guest]

I hope this isn't blasphemy, but I LOVE Suzanne Somers new book,

BREAKTHROUGH! She talks about menopause in great length. It is actually

just her interviewing several doctors (natural leaning doctors).

My library had it even though I had to wait it was worth it.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:25 AM, byroncenterfarmgirl <

byroncenterfarmgirl@...> wrote:

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> Hi folks, I am a lurker. And need some advice. Does anyone on this group

> know of a good source of info on a more natural approach to easeing

> menopause symptoms? .................. Getting desperate in Grand Rapids MI.

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[Guest guest]

I'm no expert on menopause (I'm only 28), but I've come to understand that the

symptoms related to menopause are related in large part to adrenal fatigue and

the " pregnenolone steal " that happens as a result. Adrenal fatigue is caused by

any prolonged stress response (emotional, physical, mental, you name it). Are

you familiar with Dr. Janet Lang's work? She's a brilliant endocrinologist who

speaks at the WAPF conferences. More info for you at her website:

http://www.restorativeendocrinology.com/femhormonesfull.html

and here:

http://www.restorativeendocrinology.com/menopausalwomenfull.html

Good luck!

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> Hi folks, I am a lurker. And need some advice. Does anyone on this group know

of a good source of info on a more natural approach to easeing menopause

symptoms? I have been at this for several years and am at the breaking point. I

am allergic to soy. Have tried every combo of herbs, and really good topical

creams. Need more help. How do I find a good Dr with a more natural approach?

Getting desperate in Grand Rapids MI.

>

[Guest guest]

No, I have not tried Motherwort tincture, will look for info on this right

now!!! thanks, Patti

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> > Hi folks, I am a lurker. And need some advice. Does anyone on this group

know of a good source of info on a more natural approach to easeing menopause

symptoms? I have been at this for several years and am at the breaking point. I

am allergic to soy. Have tried every combo of herbs, and really good topical

creams. Need more help. How do I find a good Dr with a more natural approach?

Getting desperate in Grand Rapids MI.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thank you , I will look into this. Patti

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> > Hi folks, I am a lurker. And need some advice. Does anyone on this group

know of a good source of info on a more natural approach to easeing menopause

symptoms? I have been at this for several years and am at the breaking point. I

am allergic to soy. Have tried every combo of herbs, and really good topical

creams. Need more help. How do I find a good Dr with a more natural approach?

Getting desperate in Grand Rapids MI.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Here are Lee's articles on hormone balancing. The information comes from

Ray Peat.

http://www.litalee.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=33 & cat=Hormonal+Balancing

Ray Peat says PMS is caused by too much estrogen and not enough progesterone.

Believe it or not, Black Cohosh works as an estrogen. I took it and I got

relief but I hit the wall when I became post menopausal. I wish I had known

about thyroid and progesterone earlier.

One thing you can start doing today is eat raw carrots to rid your body of

estrogens. Ray Peat discovered that progesterone goes 100% into the body when

taken with vitamin E. You can buy the progesterone from Lee.

Maca is another option, although says it doesn't work. I think it is worth

looking into.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/macaq & a.htm

There are some iodine advocates on this list. It looks like it can give relief

but it has a negative affect when too much is taken.

Joan

[Guest guest]

Progesterone is a precursor to cortisol in the steroid hormone

pathway. If your adrenals are sapped and you have low levels of

cortisol (with corresponding high DHEA) - i.e., midstage adrenal

fatigue - your adrenals convert progesterone to cortisol to

compensate. Thus, one's progesterone levels fall precipitously and

then ends up in estrogen dominance. Add to that the prevalence of

environmental estrogens...

Dr Rind also has some helpful resources at http://www.drrind.com/Home.htm

- somewhere buried on that website is a presentation at the 2006

WAPF meeting - definitely worthwhile reading because it touches on

adrenals, thyroid, and menopause.

I can't remember if the original poster mentioned having had testing

done, but it would probably be worthwhile to do some basic hormonal

panels to see just how bad hormonal levels are before one starts

supplementing randomly, with food, herbs or more chemically things.

Neuroscience Inc. has some saliva tests for hormones (and

neurotransmitters, which can also go wacky with hormonal imbalances)

that may be covered by insurance, if that's an option.

-jennifer

On Apr 29, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Joan Lulich wrote:

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> Here are Lee's articles on hormone balancing. The information

> comes from Ray Peat.

> http://www.litalee.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=33 & cat=Hormonal+Balancing

>

> Ray Peat says PMS is caused by too much estrogen and not enough

> progesterone. Believe it or not, Black Cohosh works as an estrogen.

> I took it and I got relief but I hit the wall when I became post

> menopausal. I wish I had known about thyroid and progesterone earlier.

>

> One thing you can start doing today is eat raw carrots to rid your

> body of estrogens. Ray Peat discovered that progesterone goes 100%

> into the body when taken with vitamin E. You can buy the

> progesterone from Lee.

>

> Maca is another option, although says it doesn't work. I think

> it is worth looking into.

>

> http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/macaq & a.htm

>

> There are some iodine advocates on this list. It looks like it can

> give relief but it has a negative affect when too much is taken.

>

> Joan

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