Guest guest Posted May 19, 2000 Report Share Posted May 19, 2000 wrote: I don't have any trouble eating other nuts. Peanuts seem to be all that bother me. But I do have trouble with beef liver. I have " trouble " with beef liver, too: it's gross! IMHO :>) Babs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Geoff and Patti, I also had Mono when I was 17 yrs old and I was never right again. Somewhere in my 20's I became very sick with this RA and Lupus though it was mild it did not get diagnoised tell 32, I struggled and worked in pain most of my life ,nothing back then showed up. I think Monm is much more serious than drs. either know or say. Just My View from Ohio How many on here have had Mono??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 lie, I'm sending a cc of this to the list as well, as I think the concept will bear discussion and may birth some helpful ideas for some people. You wrote: " The illustration you gave about eating one new food and what it triggers and how the body reacts seems very plausible to me. " Just my personal observations. The times are extremely variable, for instance I think the 36 hours to rid the Tawny Port from my right thumb was way too short, probably closer to 48-60 hours, providing there are no other antagonists introduced. If other antagonists are introduced which are able to be taken up in the same physical space, i.e., the distal joint of the right thumb, the time will be extended -- dramatically. " What I would like to know is: does that new food activate the mycroplasma to give off a toxin and is that what causes the pain and swelling and immobility? " I don't believe so, no... I believe it is more likely what we observe is a housekeeping function. The immune system uses heat, fluids, etc., to do its job. That is why arresting minor fevers and taking drugs for every little issue are generally really stupid things to do. The immune system itself uses actions which cause discomfort to maintain health and keep the host alive. When the discomfort is recognized and the host stops and rests, there is less stress to the system overall. With less overall stress the immune system is able to concentrate its efforts on the primary problem (1st things 1st) rather than being distracted by scratches, bites, pollens, etc., etc. Providing the housekeeping is not too extensive, and there are enough housekeepers to handle the mess, the host " gets well. " Otherwise, the housekeepers will not be able to get it cleaned up and the invaders are free to expand their territory. Why? Because the immune system deems faulty cell removal more important to host survival than removal of invaded but perhaps partially still functional cells. The immune system " prioritizes. " My theory is that the root starts in the digestive tract with some sort of incompetence, such as inadequate enzymes, low hydrochloric acid, or inadequate beneficial gut flora. This starts a cascade of events: 1. Incompletely digested foods are brought into the bloodstream 2. These components travel to areas where various weaknesses allow them entry, i.e., some cells allow 2 micron items in, others 4 micron, others 6 angstrom, etc. 3. Specific food break down to specific physical sizes and these sizes are why the food-flares display in specific areas based on quantity of material available to " float through " , capacity of affected area to contain, i.e., 1 gram, 3 grams, etc., and circulatory speed Therefore, a person eats item A, which incompletely digests to 4 grams of 3 angstroms size material, which enters the blood stream. It continues to circulate until it encounters cells exchanging waste product for nourishing products. If any of these cells will accommodate something as large as 3 angstroms, those cells will absorb as much of this product as they can hold, say 1/10 of a gram, that leaves 3-9/10 grams still floating looking for a home. This continues until the raw material hits the waste filtration system (liver / kidney) and is eliminated, having deposited anything up to the entire 4 gram load enroute. The 4 gram load was distributed in various places at various times based on capacities and time of arrival. Back to the first stop... The original 1/10th gram has been loaded and the cell begins to malfunction. It should be performing task A but instead is performing task X. This failure creates a chemical imbalance sensed by the immune system which then takes up the task of disabling the errant cell, thus inflammation and swelling become present. How do Mycoplasma fit in? I believe the mycoplasma create the issue in the cells by making them overtly permeable, i.e., they create 4 angstrom holes, or 2 or 5, pick a number, where 1/4 angstrom holes should be, or microns, or whatever - pick a unit of measure. Thus parasitic action of mycoplasma setup an opportunity for errant nutrient uptake at a cellular level. So this addresses the root of digestive flaring, what about the mycoplasma per se? Remember, mycoplasma can be present for decades in healthy people who never experience any obvious problems. It is my belief that once digestive incompetencies setup the above cascade, immune cells sent to disable those errant cells encounter mycoplasma which are then programmed into the immune response as a variant of a known invader. For example, if one had pneumonia, commonly caused by Mycoplasma Pneumonia, the immune system already possesses information about that organism and constantly patrols for it, keeping it under control though not necessarily absent. When the immune system is over-taxed, (like you and me and our money) it has fewer resources available for " basic patrol " and thus in the normal wax and wane of life and health, the mycoplasma have an opportunity to increase their land, and do so. Unfortunately, when the over-taxation continues, as with incompetent digestion, the balance normally carried forward by the immune system is now unbalanced, there are too many fights going on, and some mycoplasma escape their previously contained area, such as the lungs in the case of m. pneumonia, and begin circulating and invading. This then, is my theory of rheumatic presentation WITH dietary relationship: 1. Invasion of minute organism at some time during life, i.e., juvenile pneumonia 2. Containment of the invasive organism, resolution and recovery from that disease invasion 3. Stress to the host at a later date, perhaps acute (i.e., an " incident " like an accident, divorce) or chronic, (i.e., long-term abuse such as smoking, drugs, excessive Rx's, etc.) 4. Digestive incompetence introduced 5. Distraction of immune resources presents opportunity for previously contained invasive organisms to expand territory 6. Invasive organisms gain ground allowing entry of undigested foods at cellular levels 7. The immune system responds as available to the " most pressing " invasion at the time 8. During this response the immune system recognizes the mycoplasma as having invaded healthy cells, and thus begins attacking cells hosting the mycoplasma, cells rendered incompetent to handle digested nutrients properly due to damage by mycoplasma, and if opportunity presents, mycoplasma in the open. My appreciation for this theory includes the way it accommodates non-dietary rheumatic diseases as well; allow the mycoplasma out by compromising the immune system, either by intent (as in cytotoxic drugs,) neglect (excessive smoking, drinking, drugs, etc.,) or otherwise; discover it by the immune system, and the battle is on but not won as there are too many battles going at the same time. I like the way the theory accommodates: the various presentations; the known organisms being discovered; the lack of discovery due to lacks in current technology; etc. So there you go, one lay opinion. Geoff soli Deo gloria www.HealingYou.org - Your nonprofit source for remedies and aids in fighting these diseases, information on weaning from drugs, and nutritional kits for repairing damage; 100% volunteer staffed. cc: RA Support Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Geoff, Your theory sounds exactly like what has happened to me. When I was a senior in high school, I had a very severe case of mono, and things progressed from there following your theory exactly. I had a very intelligent Chinese doctor tell me many years ago that he thought my problems stemed back to the mono. Just a support. Patti > " The illustration you gave about eating one > new food and what it triggers and how the > body reacts seems very plausible to me. " > > Just my personal observations. The times are extremely variable, for > instance I think the 36 hours to rid the Tawny Port from my right thumb was > way too short, probably closer to 48-60 hours, providing there are no other > antagonists introduced. If other antagonists are introduced which are able > to be taken up in the same physical space, i.e., the distal joint of the > right thumb, the time will be extended -- dramatically. > > " What I would like to know is: does that new > food activate the mycroplasma to give off a > toxin and is that what causes the pain and > swelling and immobility? " > > I don't believe so, no... I believe it is more likely what we observe is a > housekeeping function. The immune system uses heat, fluids, etc., to do its > job. That is why arresting minor fevers and taking drugs for every little > issue are generally really stupid things to do. The immune system itself > uses actions which cause discomfort to maintain health and keep the host > alive. When the discomfort is recognized and the host stops and rests, > there is less stress to the system overall. With less overall stress the > immune system is able to concentrate its efforts on the primary problem (1st > things 1st) rather than being distracted by scratches, bites, pollens, etc., > etc. > > Providing the housekeeping is not too extensive, and there are enough > housekeepers to handle the mess, the host " gets well. " Otherwise, the > housekeepers will not be able to get it cleaned up and the invaders are free > to expand their territory. Why? Because the immune system deems faulty > cell removal more important to host survival than removal of invaded but > perhaps partially still functional cells. The immune system " prioritizes. " > > My theory is that the root starts in the digestive tract with some sort of > incompetence, such as inadequate enzymes, low hydrochloric acid, or > inadequate beneficial gut flora. This starts a cascade of events: > 1. Incompletely digested foods are brought into the bloodstream > 2. These components travel to areas where various weaknesses > allow them entry, i.e., some cells allow 2 micron items in, > others > 4 micron, others 6 angstrom, etc. > 3. Specific food break down to specific physical sizes and these > sizes > are why the food-flares display in specific areas based on > quantity > of material available to " float through " , capacity of affected > area > to contain, i.e., 1 gram, 3 grams, etc., and circulatory speed > > Therefore, a person eats item A, which incompletely digests to 4 grams of 3 > angstroms size material, which enters the blood stream. It continues to > circulate until it encounters cells exchanging waste product for nourishing > products. If any of these cells will accommodate something as large as 3 > angstroms, those cells will absorb as much of this product as they can hold, > say 1/10 of a gram, that leaves 3-9/10 grams still floating looking for a > home. This continues until the raw material hits the waste filtration > system (liver / kidney) and is eliminated, having deposited anything up to > the entire 4 gram load enroute. > > The 4 gram load was distributed in various places at various times based on > capacities and time of arrival. Back to the first stop... > > The original 1/10th gram has been loaded and the cell begins to malfunction. > It should be performing task A but instead is performing task X. This > failure creates a chemical imbalance sensed by the immune system which then > takes up the task of disabling the errant cell, thus inflammation and > swelling become present. > > How do Mycoplasma fit in? I believe the mycoplasma create the issue in the > cells by making them overtly permeable, i.e., they create 4 angstrom holes, > or 2 or 5, pick a number, where 1/4 angstrom holes should be, or microns, or > whatever - pick a unit of measure. Thus parasitic action of mycoplasma > setup an opportunity for errant nutrient uptake at a cellular level. > > So this addresses the root of digestive flaring, what about the mycoplasma > per se? > > Remember, mycoplasma can be present for decades in healthy people who never > experience any obvious problems. It is my belief that once digestive > incompetencies setup the above cascade, immune cells sent to disable those > errant cells encounter mycoplasma which are then programmed into the immune > response as a variant of a known invader. For example, if one had > pneumonia, commonly caused by Mycoplasma Pneumonia, the immune system > already possesses information about that organism and constantly patrols for > it, keeping it under control though not necessarily absent. > > When the immune system is over-taxed, (like you and me and our money) it has > fewer resources available for " basic patrol " and thus in the normal wax and > wane of life and health, the mycoplasma have an opportunity to increase > their land, and do so. Unfortunately, when the over-taxation continues, as > with incompetent digestion, the balance normally carried forward by the > immune system is now unbalanced, there are too many fights going on, and > some mycoplasma escape their previously contained area, such as the lungs in > the case of m. pneumonia, and begin circulating and invading. > > This then, is my theory of rheumatic presentation WITH dietary relationship: > > 1. Invasion of minute organism at some time during life, i.e., > juvenile pneumonia > > 2. Containment of the invasive organism, resolution and recovery from > that disease invasion > > 3. Stress to the host at a later date, perhaps acute (i.e., an > " incident " like an accident, divorce) or chronic, (i.e., long-term abuse > such as smoking, drugs, excessive Rx's, etc.) > > 4. Digestive incompetence introduced > > 5. Distraction of immune resources presents opportunity for > previously contained invasive organisms to expand territory > > 6. Invasive organisms gain ground allowing entry of undigested foods > at cellular levels > > 7. The immune system responds as available to the " most pressing " > invasion at the time > > 8. During this response the immune system recognizes the mycoplasma > as having invaded healthy cells, and thus begins attacking cells hosting the > mycoplasma, cells rendered incompetent to handle digested nutrients properly > due to damage by mycoplasma, and if opportunity presents, mycoplasma in the > open. > > My appreciation for this theory includes the way it accommodates non-dietary > rheumatic diseases as well; allow the mycoplasma out by compromising the > immune system, either by intent (as in cytotoxic drugs,) neglect (excessive > smoking, drinking, drugs, etc.,) or otherwise; discover it by the immune > system, and the battle is on but not won as there are too many battles going > at the same time. > > I like the way the theory accommodates: > the various presentations; > the known organisms being discovered; > the lack of discovery due to lacks in current technology; > etc. > > So there you go, one lay opinion. > > Geoff > soli Deo gloria > > www.HealingYou.org - Your nonprofit source for remedies and aids in fighting > these diseases, information on weaning from drugs, and nutritional kits for > repairing damage; 100% volunteer staffed. > > cc: RA Support Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Geoff, Your theory sounds exactly like what has happened to me. When I was a senior in high school, I had a very severe case of mono, and things progressed from there following your theory exactly. I had a very intelligent Chinese doctor tell me many years ago that he thought my problems stemed back to the mono. Just a support. Patti > " The illustration you gave about eating one > new food and what it triggers and how the > body reacts seems very plausible to me. " > > Just my personal observations. The times are extremely variable, for > instance I think the 36 hours to rid the Tawny Port from my right thumb was > way too short, probably closer to 48-60 hours, providing there are no other > antagonists introduced. If other antagonists are introduced which are able > to be taken up in the same physical space, i.e., the distal joint of the > right thumb, the time will be extended -- dramatically. > > " What I would like to know is: does that new > food activate the mycroplasma to give off a > toxin and is that what causes the pain and > swelling and immobility? " > > I don't believe so, no... I believe it is more likely what we observe is a > housekeeping function. The immune system uses heat, fluids, etc., to do its > job. That is why arresting minor fevers and taking drugs for every little > issue are generally really stupid things to do. The immune system itself > uses actions which cause discomfort to maintain health and keep the host > alive. When the discomfort is recognized and the host stops and rests, > there is less stress to the system overall. With less overall stress the > immune system is able to concentrate its efforts on the primary problem (1st > things 1st) rather than being distracted by scratches, bites, pollens, etc., > etc. > > Providing the housekeeping is not too extensive, and there are enough > housekeepers to handle the mess, the host " gets well. " Otherwise, the > housekeepers will not be able to get it cleaned up and the invaders are free > to expand their territory. Why? Because the immune system deems faulty > cell removal more important to host survival than removal of invaded but > perhaps partially still functional cells. The immune system " prioritizes. " > > My theory is that the root starts in the digestive tract with some sort of > incompetence, such as inadequate enzymes, low hydrochloric acid, or > inadequate beneficial gut flora. This starts a cascade of events: > 1. Incompletely digested foods are brought into the bloodstream > 2. These components travel to areas where various weaknesses > allow them entry, i.e., some cells allow 2 micron items in, > others > 4 micron, others 6 angstrom, etc. > 3. Specific food break down to specific physical sizes and these > sizes > are why the food-flares display in specific areas based on > quantity > of material available to " float through " , capacity of affected > area > to contain, i.e., 1 gram, 3 grams, etc., and circulatory speed > > Therefore, a person eats item A, which incompletely digests to 4 grams of 3 > angstroms size material, which enters the blood stream. It continues to > circulate until it encounters cells exchanging waste product for nourishing > products. If any of these cells will accommodate something as large as 3 > angstroms, those cells will absorb as much of this product as they can hold, > say 1/10 of a gram, that leaves 3-9/10 grams still floating looking for a > home. This continues until the raw material hits the waste filtration > system (liver / kidney) and is eliminated, having deposited anything up to > the entire 4 gram load enroute. > > The 4 gram load was distributed in various places at various times based on > capacities and time of arrival. Back to the first stop... > > The original 1/10th gram has been loaded and the cell begins to malfunction. > It should be performing task A but instead is performing task X. This > failure creates a chemical imbalance sensed by the immune system which then > takes up the task of disabling the errant cell, thus inflammation and > swelling become present. > > How do Mycoplasma fit in? I believe the mycoplasma create the issue in the > cells by making them overtly permeable, i.e., they create 4 angstrom holes, > or 2 or 5, pick a number, where 1/4 angstrom holes should be, or microns, or > whatever - pick a unit of measure. Thus parasitic action of mycoplasma > setup an opportunity for errant nutrient uptake at a cellular level. > > So this addresses the root of digestive flaring, what about the mycoplasma > per se? > > Remember, mycoplasma can be present for decades in healthy people who never > experience any obvious problems. It is my belief that once digestive > incompetencies setup the above cascade, immune cells sent to disable those > errant cells encounter mycoplasma which are then programmed into the immune > response as a variant of a known invader. For example, if one had > pneumonia, commonly caused by Mycoplasma Pneumonia, the immune system > already possesses information about that organism and constantly patrols for > it, keeping it under control though not necessarily absent. > > When the immune system is over-taxed, (like you and me and our money) it has > fewer resources available for " basic patrol " and thus in the normal wax and > wane of life and health, the mycoplasma have an opportunity to increase > their land, and do so. Unfortunately, when the over-taxation continues, as > with incompetent digestion, the balance normally carried forward by the > immune system is now unbalanced, there are too many fights going on, and > some mycoplasma escape their previously contained area, such as the lungs in > the case of m. pneumonia, and begin circulating and invading. > > This then, is my theory of rheumatic presentation WITH dietary relationship: > > 1. Invasion of minute organism at some time during life, i.e., > juvenile pneumonia > > 2. Containment of the invasive organism, resolution and recovery from > that disease invasion > > 3. Stress to the host at a later date, perhaps acute (i.e., an > " incident " like an accident, divorce) or chronic, (i.e., long-term abuse > such as smoking, drugs, excessive Rx's, etc.) > > 4. Digestive incompetence introduced > > 5. Distraction of immune resources presents opportunity for > previously contained invasive organisms to expand territory > > 6. Invasive organisms gain ground allowing entry of undigested foods > at cellular levels > > 7. The immune system responds as available to the " most pressing " > invasion at the time > > 8. During this response the immune system recognizes the mycoplasma > as having invaded healthy cells, and thus begins attacking cells hosting the > mycoplasma, cells rendered incompetent to handle digested nutrients properly > due to damage by mycoplasma, and if opportunity presents, mycoplasma in the > open. > > My appreciation for this theory includes the way it accommodates non-dietary > rheumatic diseases as well; allow the mycoplasma out by compromising the > immune system, either by intent (as in cytotoxic drugs,) neglect (excessive > smoking, drinking, drugs, etc.,) or otherwise; discover it by the immune > system, and the battle is on but not won as there are too many battles going > at the same time. > > I like the way the theory accommodates: > the various presentations; > the known organisms being discovered; > the lack of discovery due to lacks in current technology; > etc. > > So there you go, one lay opinion. > > Geoff > soli Deo gloria > > www.HealingYou.org - Your nonprofit source for remedies and aids in fighting > these diseases, information on weaning from drugs, and nutritional kits for > repairing damage; 100% volunteer staffed. > > cc: RA Support Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2002 Report Share Posted November 5, 2002 Hi I had mon when I was only 3. I also had endometriosis, another condition that is now being linked to developing serious, chronic illnesses, particularly rheumatic illnesses. Hugs a MUGGYPC@... wrote: > > Geoff and Patti, > I also had Mono when I was 17 yrs old and I was never right > again. Somewhere in my 20's I became very sick with this RA and Lupus > though it was mild it did not get diagnoised tell 32, I struggled and > worked in pain most of my life ,nothing back then showed up. I think > Monm is much more serious than drs. either know or say. Just My View > from Ohio How many on here have had Mono??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2002 Report Share Posted November 6, 2002 My daughter had mono two years before she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, which she has had for 11 years. Then in 2000 came the scleroderma diagnosis. Ellen Re: rheumatic Re: Nuts Geoff and Patti, I also had Mono when I was 17 yrs old and I was never right again. Somewhere in my 20's I became very sick with this RA and Lupus though it was mild it did not get diagnoised tell 32, I struggled and worked in pain most of my life ,nothing back then showed up. I think Monm is much more serious than drs. either know or say. Just My View from Ohio How many on here have had Mono??? To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 New York Times National Desk | November 27, 2002, Wednesday Nuts May Help Prevent Diabetes, Study of 83,000 Women Shows Nuts and peanut butter may help ward off adult-onset diabetes, a study of more than 83,000 women suggests. Women in the study who reported eating the equivalent of a handful of nuts or one tablespoon of peanut butter at least five times a week were more than 20 percent less likely to develop diabetes than those who rarely or never ate those products. (Sent by Harper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Toxigenic fungi: which are important? Pitt JI. Food Science Australia, North Ryde, NSW, Australia. .Pitt@... Growth of commonly occurring filamentous fungi in foods may result in production of mycotoxins, which can cause a variety of ill effects in humans, from allergic responses to immunosuppression and cancer. According to experts, five kinds of mycotoxins are important in human health around the world: aflatoxins, ochratoxin A, fumonisins, certain trichothecenes, and zearalenone. These toxins are produced by only a few species of fungi, in a limited range of commodities. Aflatoxins are potent carcinogens, produced by Aspergillus flavus and A. parasiticus in peanuts, maize and some other nuts and oilseeds. Ochratoxin A is a kidney toxin and probable carcinogen. It is produced by Penicillium verrucosum in cereal grains in cold climates, by A. carbonarius in grapes, wines and vine fruits, and by A. ochraceus sometimes in coffee beans. Fumonisins, which may cause oesophageal cancer, are formed by Fusarium moniliforme and F. proliferatum, but only in maize. Trichothecenes are highly immunosuppressive and zearalenone causes oestrogenic effects; both are produced by F. graminearum and related species. Current reporting probably underestimates the effect of mycotoxins as a cause of human mortality. Medical mycology : official publication of the International Society for Human and Animal Mycology. 2000; Vol.38, Supplement 1:p. 17-22 > New York Times > National Desk | November 27, 2002, Wednesday > Nuts May Help Prevent Diabetes, Study of 83,000 Women Shows > Nuts and peanut butter may help ward off adult-onset diabetes, a study of > more than 83,000 women suggests. Women in the study who reported eating the > equivalent of a handful of nuts or one tablespoon of peanut butter at least > five times a week were more than 20 percent less likely to develop diabetes > than those who rarely or never ate those products. > > (Sent by Harper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Sophie ... if you are going to use words like those, I'm afraid by group rules we will have to ask you to clean up your language... love jerry Toxigenic fungi: which are important? Pitt JI. Food Science Australia, North Ryde, NSW, Australia. .Pitt@... Growth of commonly occurring filamentous fungi in foods may result in production of mycotoxins, which can cause a variety of ill effects in humans, from allergic responses to immunosuppression and cancer. According to experts, five kinds of mycotoxins are important in human health around the world: aflatoxins, ochratoxin A, fumonisins, certain trichothecenes, and zearalenone. These toxins are produced by only a few species of fungi, in a limited range of commodities. Aflatoxins are potent carcinogens, produced by Aspergillus flavus and A. parasiticus in peanuts, maize and some other nuts and oilseeds. Ochratoxin A is a kidney toxin and probable carcinogen. It is produced by Penicillium verrucosum in cereal grains in cold climates, by A. carbonarius in grapes, wines and vine fruits, and by A. ochraceus sometimes in coffee beans. Fumonisins, which may cause oesophageal cancer, are formed by Fusarium moniliforme and F. proliferatum, but only in maize. Trichothecenes are highly immunosuppressive and zearalenone causes oestrogenic effects; both are produced by F. graminearum and related species. Current reporting probably underestimates the effect of mycotoxins as a cause of human mortality. Medical mycology : official publication of the International Society for Human and Animal Mycology. 2000; Vol.38, Supplement 1:p. 17-22 > New York Times > National Desk | November 27, 2002, Wednesday > Nuts May Help Prevent Diabetes, Study of 83,000 Women Shows > Nuts and peanut butter may help ward off adult-onset diabetes, a study of > more than 83,000 women suggests. Women in the study who reported eating the > equivalent of a handful of nuts or one tablespoon of peanut butter at least > five times a week were more than 20 percent less likely to develop diabetes > than those who rarely or never ate those products. > > (Sent by Harper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi Danny I was told to avoid peanuts and pistachio nuts altogether. And in the early days of the diet to only eat freshly shelled nuts of any kind. I keep a pot in my desk drawer with a mixture of pumpkin, sesame and sunflower seeds. Its a great snack and keeps me full. Some time a add a little black pepper or herb salt to change to flavour a little. Hope that helps Ruth NUTS I'm confused about nuts. Can we eat them? Can we eat some and not others?If so which ones and why. They are the only things i eat as snacks that stop me from eating suagar type things. Any advice would be cool. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 I'm doing Yeast Busters, and in the book it says no peanuts, pistachios or cashews. Everything else is ok. Raw is best of course, but if you want roasted, roast 'em yourself and eat them within a day or two. Trizz > Hi Danny > I was told to avoid peanuts and pistachio nuts altogether. And in the early > days of the diet to only eat freshly shelled nuts of any kind. I keep a pot > in my desk drawer with a mixture of pumpkin, sesame and sunflower seeds. Its > a great snack and keeps me full. Some time a add a little black pepper or > herb salt to change to flavour a little. > Hope that helps > Ruth > NUTS > > > I'm confused about nuts. Can we eat them? Can we eat some and not > others?If so which ones and why. They are the only things i eat as > snacks that stop me from eating suagar type things. > Any advice would be cool. > > Danny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 What a wonderful idea! Gonna do that myself,love all that stuff.... Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: tina83862 I made my daughter up a bag of pumpkin and sunflower seeds--essential vitamins here for the thyroid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2003 Report Share Posted October 22, 2003 Pumpkin seeds are great!!..I love to roast them in the oven after the kids have carved their pumpkins!!! Deneen:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 personally I would ( & do) avoid peanuts & Pistachio's....but Walnuts are a good oil nut (relatively hi in Omega 3's)...for all other hard seed nuts inc Walnuts I try to soak them in good water at least 8 hours before use to soften & initiate germination phase, then incorporate them in my Vita-Mix blender/processor ..usually with a small amount of Unprocessed starch , (Legume of Veg, sometimes less frequently small amount grain instead)... & large amount of non Starchy unprocessed raw or steamed Vegatables...(Finely blended/powdered nuts & soaked beforehand makes them more digestable) For me almond,Cashew, macadamia,brazil,hazelnut, pecan,walnut ,sesame Pumpkin, Sunflower(shame about rancid & /or oxidization in these tho)...all seem ok nuts what is the final word on nuts? in the yeast connection, some are okay (except peanuts, walnuts, pistachios) in the yeast syndrome, all are off limits. everywhere else i read seems to have conflicting opinions. i eat eggs and a little tuna fish now. i have never eaten red meat in my life and don't intend to. nuts and eggs are my main protein source- and i can't fathom cutting out anymore items from my diet. so what gives? any knowledge? i'm getting an allergy test in a couple of weeks to see if i'm allergic to them, but i'd like to know if i shouldn't be eating them in the first place. thanks.. aliqaesong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 > what is the final word on nuts? Well, I'm not sure about the final word but my doctor told me no peanuts as they have aflatoxins (I think that's spelled ok?) which are bad. My information from my doctor says walnuts, pecans, almonds, etc are fine as are eggs & tuna. Hope that helps, Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 I was very sensitive to everything. The only nut I could eat was almonds. Boil them for a few minutes, and take the skin off before you eat them. The skin contains harmful acids. If you eating canned tuna, read this http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail & storyid=573542 Rick > what is the final word on nuts? > in the yeast connection, some are okay (except peanuts, walnuts, > pistachios) > in the yeast syndrome, all are off limits. > everywhere else i read seems to have conflicting opinions. > i eat eggs and a little tuna fish now. i have never eaten red meat > in my life and don't intend to. nuts and eggs are my main protein > source- and i can't fathom cutting out anymore items from my diet. > so what gives? any knowledge? > i'm getting an allergy test in a couple of weeks to see if i'm > allergic to them, but i'd like to know if i shouldn't be eating them > in the first place. > thanks.. aliqaesong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2003 Report Share Posted December 16, 2003 If you would like to read more about soy this is a good place to look: Why Soy Can Damage Your Health http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/ Bruce Re: nuts Thanks a lot ! Right about peanuts *lol* My naturopath told me to avoid those like the plague.. but I read recently that scientists are trying to find a way to grow peanuts without that toxin in the peanuts! Oh wow, so soybeans are not all that healthy to eat either? (I sometimes put the nuts in a salad or just eat as a snack) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 >>> why is the nut-flur wrong in scd ? ! ? Depends on the flour and person. Raw seeds (nuts) will have enzyme inhibitors in them because that is what preserves the seed until spouting time. If you take enzymes, this is much less an issue. Some people are allergic to nuts. There is some question about copper in nuts if lots are eaten (I don't know if this a particular kind of nut or not) There is some concern about total phenolic load in almonds for those sensitive to these compounds...maybe other types. But nuts do have protein, oils, and some minerals and other good stuff. You would just need to try different types and amounts and see what works best for you. Balance is a great concept to keep in mind. Extremes of 'this is a wonderful healthy food so let's eat it every chance we get' and 'this food is evil so let's have everyone everywhere banish it forever' can cause more problems than they solve. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Dear Jeanne Your body is crying out for good fats. Go with it. Take 2-3 tablespoons of coconut oil. It is so healing, easy on the gallbladder and antifungal. We are a society that is so underfatted that our cells are becoming rigid internally. It is my belief that being underfatted that the neuro-transmissions and all the other complex chemistry that should easily " glide " into each cell can not because the walls are rigid and ungiving. Thus the body produces more hormones and other vital chemicals,trying to penetrate and get it's message across . Then the body is flooded and now having to deal with the additional load. It shows up horomonally in mood swings, road rage, ADD, adrenal overload,depression.brain fog and a myriad of other nerological misfunctions. (this is my opinion) . Bee mentioned an article in the archives that put this into perspective for me. It was the article that said how candida causes rigidity to the cellular well. I would like to meet anyone who has enough fat in their diet that has candida. I do not believe candida and good fat can share the same space,and until the body has the proper amount of fat, only using anti-fungal aids will abate candida. However if the body has good-fats, omega-3 fats,candida will go away.Properly and easily absorbable Omega-3 fats are found in the flesh of animals that eat green things. Fish that eat algae, animals that graze on grass,grass products, are rich in omega-3's . What I don't know is ,are all fats categorized into omega 3-6-9 " s I was told coconut oil is not one of these..but I have run off on a long tangent. Enjoy your nuts. C [ ] Nuts Hello everyone, I'm puzzled. Ever since I've been on this diet, I've been eating a lot of nuts, mostly almonds, pecans, and cashews (I ate peanuts a couple of times and made myself sick). Here's the odd part. Before I started a half a year could go by without my even thinking about nuts. Now I eat about a cup a day, and it feels compulsive. I am neither overweight or underweight, so this isn't related to losing weight as others have mentioned. Could this do me any harm? I know I'm supposed to be soaking the nuts, but I don't. I'm following the rest of the diet to a T, so I thought maybe I could get by without soaking the nuts. What do you think? BTW, my most recent discovery is that a half a teaspoon of organic coconut oil in a cup of black coffee is incredible! It so brings out the flavor that I don't even miss the milk ianymore. The only gross part is that you end up with greasy coffee cups -- but it's well worth it. It's good in herbal teas as well. I can't get enough of the stuff... Muchos saludos, Jeanne Marie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Dear Jeanne, Unsoaked nuts contain numerous enzyme inhibitors that put a real strain on the digestive mechanisms. Nuts are easier to digest, and their nutrients more readily available, if they are first soaked in salt water overnight, then dried (You may also use a dehydrator). Cashews are soaked for less time (not more than 6 hours). It is actually not very difficult to soak nuts Jeanne and they can be so healthful if you do. Always buy " raw " nuts and not roasted ones that contain bad fats. Pecans for example (this is from Nourishing Traditions cookbook by Sally Fallon): 4 cups of pecans are mixed with 2 teaspoons of good sea salt and covered with filtered water. Soak for at least 7 hours or overnight. Drain them and spread them on a stainless steel baking pan. Place it in a warm oven (no more than 150 degrees) for 12 - 24 hours, turning occasionally, until completely dry and crisp. I found that 150 degrees may be too high, so I always dry my nuts using only the oven light. They take a little longer but there is less chance of burning them. Or they can be left to air dry. Store in an airtight container. I keep my dried nuts in the fridge. If you soak less than 4 cups of nuts at a time just cut down on the sea salt accordingly. Different types of seeds or nuts are soaked in different amounts of sea salt. - 4 cups of Pumpkin seeds are soaked in 2 tablespoons of sea salt - 4 cups of almonds need 1 tablespoon of sea salt - 4 cups cashews need 1 tablespoon of sea salt (they can become slimy and develop a disagreeable taste if allowed to soak too long or dry out too slowly, perhaps because they come to us not truly raw but having already undergone two separate heatings.) Soak only 6 hours and place in a 200 degree oven for 12 to 24 hours. - 4 cups walnut halves in 2 teaspoons of sea salt. Your discovery about having coffee with coconut oil is great. I've only heard of one other person that does that. It also keeps the coffee warm for a longer time. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Dear and Bee, Thanks for your words of advice on the nuts. I think my body is craving good fats, as I stand around in the kitchen eating the coconut oil right out of the jar. I just love it. I've had to leave the nuts behind for a while though. I steped on the scale and noticed that I had gained 4 pounds. I hadn't realized it at first, since I've lost 90% of the bloating that I had when I was eating soy. Took me a while to figure out that I was gaining weight from my nut binges. As soon as I get back down to normal again, I'll add them back in. Saludos, Jeanne Marie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2004 Report Share Posted December 24, 2004 Hi Jeanne Marie, That is how I was finally able to gain my weight back. Eating nut flour. Particularly almond flour I used to make almond bread. After months of trying to put on the 20 pounds I'd lost, I gained it back as soon as I started (gradually!) adding in bread made with almond flour. Now I am at my desired weight and my system is so efficient that I could very easily gain more weight than I want if I don't watch my intake of nuts and nut flours. ~Robin Ps. By the way, thank you for the information on Nystatin in Mexico. I was in such a hurry to go on vacation I think I forgot to thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 Keep eating the coconut oil. Enig and Sally Fallon have come out with a new book called " eat fat,lose fat " haven't read it yet but I was told to have 3.5-4 tbls of C.Oil before all meals to lose weight. C Re: [ ] Nuts Dear and Bee, Thanks for your words of advice on the nuts. I think my body is craving good fats, as I stand around in the kitchen eating the coconut oil right out of the jar. I just love it. I've had to leave the nuts behind for a while though. I steped on the scale and noticed that I had gained 4 pounds. I hadn't realized it at first, since I've lost 90% of the bloating that I had when I was eating soy. Took me a while to figure out that I was gaining weight from my nut binges. As soon as I get back down to normal again, I'll add them back in. Saludos, Jeanne Marie __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2005 Report Share Posted September 2, 2005 You can have all nuts except for peanuts, cashews, and pistachios which have more mold then other nuts. All nuts need to be soaked. yes you can have almond butter. Not a whole lot starting off because it might be too many carbs to feed the candida. Jeanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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