Guest guest Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Bennie, the parts you copied from The Intractable Pain Patient's Handbook for Survival are absolutely brilliant. I am throwing my cyber arms around you and squeezing so hard, thank you! At least cyber hugs don't hurt either of us, lol, and you won't catch the cold which my generous son gave me for Christmas. (OK, it's bronchitis now but I'm not in the mood to go to the doctor's, you know?) I copied and pasted below. I also made my husband come sit down and read it because we have discussions (not arguments, just discussions which I usually lose) about my needing protein. I've got the jejunoileitis form of Crohn's, in a flare, doctors cannot/will not give anything other than tramadol 50/qid and the pain management doctor my Internal medicine specialist doctor sent me to told me to " tough it out. " So I tough it out and by the evening I am crying because of the pain and rocking back and forth and all I can do is to keep very quiet so I don't disturb the Mighty Television yak yak while I say " Oh God, Oh God, Oh God please, please please. " As prayers go, it isn't much but I figure He knows what I am begging Him about. The Crohn's also is keeping me from eating because if I eat anything other than a quarter cup of grits or quarter cup of oatmeal I cannot breathe and the pain is more like a myocardial infarction (had that, ha ha) than gut pain. But I CAN get down a good protein shake (60 grams protein, Champion is one). Problem is they aren't cheap and I have to keep the household food budget to $10 a day and the protein supplement has to come out of that. So he and I go back and forth about the protein and since the insurance company won't cover it (or any of the vitamins and supplements the doctor has ordered since they are OTC), I'm pretty much hosed. He did let me have one small jug back when I lost 50 pounds in 3 months and my doctor was going to put me in hospital on TPN. So I got a little protein and yes having it does make my little tramadol work much more efficiently. I am going to email a copy of The Intractable Pain Patient's Handbook for Survival as he is also an IP patient unable to get any assistance from his doctor. Actually, his doctor advised him to move out of state to get help. Since he has the onerous job of keeping track of us (and Pappa's paycheck), that isn't an option. Do you know of a place to actually purchase the handbook? I'd like to take a copy to my Internal Medicine specialist. I do get so horribly tired of pain in the afternoon and evening when the pain goes from my normal background pain of 5 up to wanting to scream and throw myself to the floor and gnaw on the carpet 10. Of course the times I went to the hospital for some help, they gave dilaudid IV which metabolizes out of the body within I think it is like 2 hours and secondly, I have a severe reaction to it in the form of severe crushing chest pain, radiating down the left arm, jaw, the whole thing which makes the people in ER run for the cart. I do tell them that I cannot have it IV but what would an old woman know? (Other than post secondary mathematics, vector calculus and nonsense like that which I taught at a local college.) I am looking for another gastroenterologist since this one does not specialize in Crohn's (which his partner diagnosed and he agrees is what is going on with the gut) and his one treatment fits all approach is not working for me. Sorry to make this so long, and I hope, Bennie, that you do not mind me putting part of an e-mail from you in this post; I just thought it was a valuable help to me that it should be posted again. Lord, I hope this doesn't get me kicked off the group. Profound apologies to all, if I screwed up. I'm an old woman and do that often. Thank you again, Love and hugs, Jeanne B in GA Jejunoileitis form of Crohn's, in flare Epigastric ulcer which likes hemorrhaging now and then fibromyalgia osteoarthritis rheumatoid arthritis cataracts with legal blindness (don't have a reader; I just copy e-mail to Word document and make the print big) Very bad dental issues from Crohn's which forced oral surgeon to remove most of the upper jaw bone now I can't get dentures even, but that's life. And a partridge in a pear tree >from Bennie's post: All, The Intractable Pain Patient's Handbook for Survival by Dr. Forest Tenants discusses pain enhancers you can take to make your pain medication more effective and is a good read. See below for link: The Intractable Pain Patient's Handbook for Survival pain-topics.org/pdf/IntractablePainSurvival.pdfSimilar File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View This Handbook was written to provide intractable pain patients and their loved ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 > Jeanne B wrote: > I've got the jejunoileitis form of Crohn's, in a flare, doctors cannot/will not give anything other than tramadol 50/qid and the pain management doctor my Internal medicine specialist doctor sent me to told me to " tough it out.not in the mood to go to the doctor's, you know?) > Jeanne, I am writing the last paragraph first as it will make more sense, I take Restriol for ileaus and it is a tb injection, once a week and also relaxes lower bowel. Did you have a H Pylori test for your bleeding ulcers, my Mother had gastric ulcers and duodenal, which were painful and after the twenty plus years she tested positive and the antibiotic therapy program liked to kill her as she was 85 and did not deserve the pain all those years. Vitamin D has shown to help arthritis and joint and bond pain do I will be demanded it and I have a Vesterol(sp) cream with Motrin in it that helps me and I bet the anti inflammatory diet will help also Jeane. I have set some six goals with the things I shared with you, so we will see how we do. I wish you good health and start looking for a real Chron's specialist that does research and clinical trails so you might benefit from them. Let us know what you find out. I am tired and sorry sentences are sloppy. I went to a Doctor who started a Foundation with Dr. Tenent and I have great respect for them as pain researchers. My Doctor made me keep a pain dairy, functional assessment, and mood evaluation. My Doctor always had new articles for his patients to read, The Intractable Pain Survival Guide, DEA War on Drugs and state laws and Pain Doctors incarcerated and many agencies providd their legal support. We had a good forum but he died in Nov 2011, a great loss to the world and the National Pain Foundation was closed down. The new name for the guide is The Intractable Pain Patient's Handbook for Survival and can be downloaded for free at paintopics.org which is Great also. I just read an article about Chron's and and Colitis and most patients had deficiencies in Cobalt so you could as for a Vitamin and Mineral Panel with Cobalt. I just asked my Doctor by mistake when I was getting my thyroid checked if she would check my B12 and Vitamin D, Vitamin D and Calcium, and Phosphorus go together so I am going to ask for complete panel, a receptionist told me they could use my blood seven days later and I though how weird and the lab throws it away the nest day. So will see ho deficient I am. http://pain-topics.org/clinical_concepts/vitamind.php Vitamin D articles and documentations Here us where you download his guide and you might want to research other articles, he co authors Pain Management Journal and you can read articles from it. pain-topics.org/pdf/IntractablePainSurvival. File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View Dr. Tennant has published over 200 scientific articles and pioneered research on the treatment and complications of intractable pain. The Guide is in the Patient Resources section and there are over two hundred websites in related websites section that refers to many disorders. You can also sign up for their e newsletter and I sign up for the American Pain Foundation and they keep up with state and federal laws and new research. I hope you can use this information, they have become my best friends and I reread them often. There is also a guide for your loved ones and they put the target pain dairy from American Pain Foundation there. I set up many nights with my ex husband (who cheated on me) and he had fevers of 103 and cramping over and throwing up fecal material and refusing to go to the hospital, I washed him down with alcohol, gave him Talwin (a bad drug that causes agitation and halucination) and he would throw up blood and he took sixteen predisone tablets and Azusulfidine (sp) and when we divorced all he said was " You were a good nurse " and went off with a seventeen year old on a Harley I bought. But you take care and don't let anyone get you down. Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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