Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

[Guest guest]

Is your mother actually following your recommendations?

Have you looked at the Gerson diet yet? I don't know about all the enemas -

there is good bacteria in the bowel that I don't think should be disturbed like

that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp

Have you seen Matthias Rath's protocol for cancer? He has a group of nutrients

he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire him, ever

since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS " victims in

Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but malnutrition.

http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/NHC/cancer/cellular_solutions.htm

Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

http://www.whale.to/cancer/naessens.html (see the video - requires patience tho

for the first few minutes)

You may also want to look at the Beck Protocol, by C. Beck.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3383948315844437935 (117 min.)

Some think there is a conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress

cancer cures that work, but I think it is more a problem of hubris. They've

invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

If you're interested in the glucose use of cancer, have you read yet about

insulin-loading? That sounds really interesting!

One more thing, Jerry Brunetti said if you let them take a biopsy of the cancer,

make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the lab -

many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type of

cancer or not.

Thanks for sharing what you're finding out with us!

[Guest guest]

She's doing most of it.  She'll make a potato salad and such.  She doesn't just

eat the food plain.  I may make homemade icecream with the unheated honey,

rapadura, and raw milk.  I'm not too clear if unheated honey is detrimental for

a person with cancer.  It sounds like it helps with people that have problems

with blood sugar.  AV's book says it stores as enzymes, not as glycogen.

It's kinda difficult getting her to consume the magnesium oil and the fermented

codliver oil.  The magnesium oil tastes horrible.  She may not consume the

iodoral.  She's taking stuff that helps with her high blood pressure and it may

interfere.  She takes a lot of junk her doctor gives her.  I don't know why she

has high blood pressure and so I can't figure the right solution to remedy it. 

I read that heart attacks are more common when blood pressure is lowered.

Weston A. Price studied the eskimos and found the ones on their native foods had

buffered alkalinity in the blood even though they ate a lot of raw animal.  This

may be due to the fat soluble vitamins they took in.  The Muran also consumed 7

quarts of raw milk a day and their body was alkaline even though raw milk is

thought to be acidic.  People don't realize that raw milk is high in

alkalinizing minerals.  Potassium alone has a ph of 14.  The fat soluble

vitamins improve the body's ability to digest vitamins and minerals.  I

personally do not feel there is a need for vegetable or fruit juices for

alkalinizing.  There may be other benefits though.   I'm helping her to budget

her food intake as eating organic and pastured food can get expensive. 

Especially fruits and vegetables.  That and they are high in fructose which

we're trying to avoid to a greater extent.  I am considering beets or grapefruit

to lower her blood pressure though. 

Neither the Muran warriors or the native eskimos of the past had much fruit or

vegetables.  Both tribes thrived in difficult climates with raw food as their

main source of nutrition.  The nutrition of both these tribes are thought to be

top notch.  The Muran also got all their fat soluble vitamins from the raw milk.

I believe the undenatured cystine in raw milk helps with the lymphs.  The

cystine activates the glutathione which cleans out the lymphs.  Jumping on a

trampoline is good for the lymphs too.

I'll look at those recommendations sometime today.  I am thinking about getting

her off of potatoes and having her take in far less carbs.  However, she won't

be getting nearly as much potassium and I believe a person wants 3.3g of

potassium a day.  You need a certain amount of carbs everyday just to focus. 

She has a supervising jobs and certainly needs that focus.

 

Is your mother actually following your recommendations?

Have you looked at the Gerson diet yet? I don't know about all the enemas -

there is good bacteria in the bowel that I don't think should be disturbed like

that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

http://www.gerson. org/g_therapy/ default.asp

Have you seen Matthias Rath's protocol for cancer? He has a group of nutrients

he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire him, ever

since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS " victims in

Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but malnutrition.

http://www4. dr-rath-foundati on.org/NHC/ cancer/cellular_ solutions. htm

Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

http://www.whale. to/cancer/ naessens. html (see the video - requires patience

tho for the first few minutes)

You may also want to look at the Beck Protocol, by C. Beck.

video.google. com/videoplay? docid=-338394831 5844437935 (117 min.)

Some think there is a conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress

cancer cures that work, but I think it is more a problem of hubris. They've

invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

If you're interested in the glucose use of cancer, have you read yet about

insulin-loading? That sounds really interesting!

One more thing, Jerry Brunetti said if you let them take a biopsy of the cancer,

make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the lab -

many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type of

cancer or not.

Thanks for sharing what you're finding out with us!

[Guest guest]

I'm about to read the articles.  Can you give me a brief overview of their

differences and what the goals of each plan entail?  There's definitely more

than one way to skin a cat, but I'd rather burn this one to cinders.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:15 AM

 

Is your mother actually following your recommendations?

Have you looked at the Gerson diet yet? I don't know about all the enemas -

there is good bacteria in the bowel that I don't think should be disturbed like

that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

http://www.gerson. org/g_therapy/ default.asp

Have you seen Matthias Rath's protocol for cancer? He has a group of nutrients

he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire him, ever

since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS " victims in

Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but malnutrition.

http://www4. dr-rath-foundati on.org/NHC/ cancer/cellular_ solutions. htm

Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

http://www.whale. to/cancer/ naessens. html (see the video - requires patience

tho for the first few minutes)

You may also want to look at the Beck Protocol, by C. Beck.

video.google. com/videoplay? docid=-338394831 5844437935 (117 min.)

Some think there is a conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress

cancer cures that work, but I think it is more a problem of hubris. They've

invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

If you're interested in the glucose use of cancer, have you read yet about

insulin-loading? That sounds really interesting!

One more thing, Jerry Brunetti said if you let them take a biopsy of the cancer,

make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the lab -

many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type of

cancer or not.

Thanks for sharing what you're finding out with us!

[Guest guest]

I've been out so I don't know if it's too late to get back to you - Let's see,

Gerson focuses on getting the pH balanced, via the use of diet - also very low

sugar, high enzymes, definate focus on raw foods.

Rath's work is mostly about containing the cancer - as he says, tumors rarely

kill, it's the metastes that kill, so if you can deprive the cancer of the

ability to break down the bonds that hold the tissues together, there will be no

room for it to grow. He makes a much better explanation than I do. His therapy

is complementary to just about any others and involved three supplements that

are cheap and easily found.

Naessens theory focuses on pleomorphism of somatids, which he says are

beneficial forms that range in size between bacteria and viruses. When the

environment changes to sluggish, low-oxygen, high acid they change form and

begin the decay process. Both he and Royal Rife (yes that's a name) have

watched these bodies change forms under high-powered microscopes in living

blood. The video link I gave you explains more. Modern medical wisdom doesn't

believe in pleomorphism, so you'll be swimming up a waterfall to try to convince

a doctor about this, but it does give you good ideas toward correcting the

situation (remember they don't look at why it happened and are not trying to

balance the system). His treatment seems a bit out there for your mom to try,

tho, and doesn't have much success after the cancer has been growing awhile,

which is compound 714X injected directly into the lymphatic system.

Beck is a electronic genius, and made devices that would change the moods

of people around him via brainwave entrainment to subaudible soundwaves. He got

a job with the military soon after that, but then went on to apply his genius

and devices toward combatting incurable diseases. His protocol has a group on

called " Beck-n-stuff " or something like that. He gives out free

instructions to make the devices or you can buy them, and his protocol has

components of diet and detox as well.

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> I'm about to read the articles.  Can you give me a brief overview of their

differences and what the goals of each plan entail?  There's definitely more

than one way to skin a cat, but I'd rather burn this one to cinders.

[Guest guest]

I likely will not buy any machinery.  I took what I could from the protocols. 

I'm definately going to push low carb on her.  She doesn't have that many carbs

as it is.  This will be easy with the addition of unheated honey and raw milk. 

Kefired milk may be more effective than raw milk alone.  Couldn't find real

sushi in the store.  According to Aajonus unheated honey doesn't store as carbs

but instead the carbs become enzymes in the digestion process.  They help remove

insulin cravings.  So does the raw milk.  She may still have potatoes as they

are a rich source of potassium.  She doesn't crave them though.  She will have

some orange juice for the vitamin C.  She is also having the EGCG polyphenol

extract from green tea.  I just won't go over 110g of carbs a day.  We may come

up with ideas in order to go lower carb in the future.

I may also make a natural based ice cream formula with rapadura, unheated honey,

and raw milk or kefired milk.

I don't like the idea of juices but this food plan has got to be palatable.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:15 AM

 

Is your mother actually following your recommendations?

Have you looked at the Gerson diet yet? I don't know about all the enemas -

there is good bacteria in the bowel that I don't think should be disturbed like

that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

http://www.gerson. org/g_therapy/ default.asp

Have you seen Matthias Rath's protocol for cancer? He has a group of nutrients

he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire him, ever

since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS " victims in

Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but malnutrition.

http://www4. dr-rath-foundati on.org/NHC/ cancer/cellular_ solutions. htm

Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

http://www.whale. to/cancer/ naessens. html (see the video - requires patience

tho for the first few minutes)

You may also want to look at the Beck Protocol, by C. Beck.

video.google. com/videoplay? docid=-338394831 5844437935 (117 min.)

Some think there is a conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress

cancer cures that work, but I think it is more a problem of hubris. They've

invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

If you're interested in the glucose use of cancer, have you read yet about

insulin-loading? That sounds really interesting!

One more thing, Jerry Brunetti said if you let them take a biopsy of the cancer,

make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the lab -

many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type of

cancer or not.

Thanks for sharing what you're finding out with us!

[Guest guest]

A homeless man who spent all his time in the library reading once told me he

believes the cure for cancer is very high doses of vitamin A - that people with

cancer don't get the ill effects from it that healthy people do. I don't know

where he got that but he was a smart, if eccentric guy.

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> From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

> Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

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there is good bacteria in the bowel that I don't think should be disturbed like

that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

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nutrients he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire

him, ever since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS "

victims in Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but

malnutrition.

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> Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

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invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

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cancer, make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the

lab - many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type

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[Guest guest]

Yeah, she's doing 7ml of fermented codliver oil a day.  That's based on WAPFs

recommendations for 30,000IU of vitamin A a day and 4000IU of vitamin D a day. 

She probably needs something to help out with bowel movement too...she's getting

constipated alot lately.  Maybe the bone broth will help.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 5:18 AM

 

A homeless man who spent all his time in the library reading

once told me he believes the cure for cancer is very high doses of vitamin A -

that people with cancer don't get the ill effects from it that healthy people

do. I don't know where he got that but he was a smart, if eccentric guy.

>

> From: haecklers <haecklers@. ..>

> Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

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that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

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nutrients he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire

him, ever since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS "

victims in Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but

malnutrition.

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> Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

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> http://www.whale. to/cancer/ naessens. html (see the video - requires patience

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> Some think there is a conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress

cancer cures that work, but I think it is more a problem of hubris. They've

invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

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cancer, make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the

lab - many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type

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[Guest guest]

Maybe her magnesium is getting used up? It's supposed to draw fluids into the

colon for soft stools.

One more thought, in case I haven't mentioned it - DMSO taken internally

protects from collateral damage from radiation treatments very well, if she ever

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point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

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[Guest guest]

I was thinking it was likely the magnesium as that is a fundamental nutrient

lacking in most people's diet.  Only so much magnesium chloride will store if

you take it orally.  She for whatever reason cannot do magnesium baths which

would make storage of magnesium far more efficient.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 8:48 AM

 

Maybe her magnesium is getting used up? It's supposed to draw

fluids into the colon for soft stools.

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protects from collateral damage from radiation treatments very well, if she ever

decides to do that.

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point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

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victims in Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but

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But the magnesium oil is applied to the skin, right? I wonder if mixing it with

DMSO would help her absorb more. I've mixed epsom salt with DMSO before and

applied it to my skin. I'm one of those rare people, tho who don't have any

problems applying DMSO and don't get the odor either, maybe due to drinking raw

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is a point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

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[Guest guest]

Extra magnesium supplements will definitely loosen the bowels.

On Jul 31, 2009, at 8:28 AM, Holt wrote:

> Yeah, she's doing 7ml of fermented codliver oil a day. That's based

> on WAPFs recommendations for 30,000IU of vitamin A a day and 4000IU

> of vitamin D a day. She probably needs something to help out with

> bowel movement too...she's getting constipated alot lately. Maybe

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[Guest guest]

The short chain fatty acids in raw milk are antimicrobial.  Not to mention the

cystine and immune factors.  They all work together to detox the body.  Even

pasteurized milk has the short chain fatty acids.  More powerful than lauric

acid.  I had a gallon of raw milk one night and sweated out 16 pounds, 8 pounds

from the milk and 8 pounds from my own body weight.  Didn't know milk did that.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 1:19 PM

 

But the magnesium oil is applied to the skin, right? I wonder

if mixing it with DMSO would help her absorb more. I've mixed epsom salt with

DMSO before and applied it to my skin. I'm one of those rare people, tho who

don't have any problems applying DMSO and don't get the odor either, maybe due

to drinking raw milk for so long - they say drinking raw milk reduces the BO you

get from DMSO.

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like that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there

is a point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

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nutrients he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire

him, ever since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS "

victims in Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but

malnutrition.

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me otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would

probably be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

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significant holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

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Wow, that's amazing. Were you on a raw milk-only fast? What made you

sweat so much? Details, details.

Jeanmarie

On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Holt wrote:

> The short chain fatty acids in raw milk are antimicrobial. Not to

> mention the cystine and immune factors. They all work together to

> detox the body. Even pasteurized milk has the short chain fatty

> acids. More powerful than lauric acid. I had a gallon of raw milk

> one night and sweated out 16 pounds, 8 pounds from the milk and 8

> pounds from my own body weight. Didn't know milk did that.

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I don't know what made me sweat so much.  It was crappy whole fat pasteurized

homogenized milk too.  I assume the sweating was from the short chain fatty

acids doing detox work on my body.  Funny thing is I was trying to gain weight

and wanted to experiment with raw milk.  The best way to gain weight though is

to eat one large pizza a day.

Sally Fallon talks about how the short chain fatty acids in dairy are more

powerful than lauric acid.  You need more lauric acid to get the benefits of it

compared to the short chain fatty acids in milk.  One possible reason for this

is that plant base lauric acid doesn't convert to as great a percentage of

monolaurin as animal sources of lauric acid.  However, coconuts have a much high

percentage of lauric acid than animal fats have monolaurin.  It's not the lauric

acid that is beneficial so much as the monolaurin that is converted from it.

> The short chain fatty acids in raw milk are antimicrobial. Not to

> mention the cystine and immune factors. They all work together to

> detox the body. Even pasteurized milk has the short chain fatty

> acids. More powerful than lauric acid. I had a gallon of raw milk

> one night and sweated out 16 pounds, 8 pounds from the milk and 8

> pounds from my own body weight. Didn't know milk did that.

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Yeah, she's doesn't like the taste of the magnesium oil and isn't have the 600mg

throughout the day like she probably needs.  She is also having cheese

throughout the day which may be causing constipation.  Does raw milk cause

constipation if you drink it cold?  Will it cause constipation in some people if

it is not fermented?

> Yeah, she's doing 7ml of fermented codliver oil a day. That's based

> on WAPFs recommendations for 30,000IU of vitamin A a day and 4000IU

> of vitamin D a day. She probably needs something to help out with

> bowel movement too...she's getting constipated alot lately. Maybe

> the bone broth will help.

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> -

[Guest guest]

MMS is a chlorine mineral you can put on a certain spot with cancer.  It enters

your body and fights the cancer.  Once it is done with it's purpose it

dissipates rather than storing as toxins in the body.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: Interesting remedies for cancer, such as MMS, Magnesium, and

protocols based off of Sally Fallon, Dr. Jan Kwasniewski, Barry Groves, and

Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:15 AM

 

Is your mother actually following your recommendations?

Have you looked at the Gerson diet yet? I don't know about all the enemas -

there is good bacteria in the bowel that I don't think should be disturbed like

that, but some of the other recommendations are pretty good. I think there is a

point to a diet high in raw vegegables and fruits when you're sick, and by

juicing them you can get a lot more " in " in a day. Lowering protein intake is

also good for allowing the protease to be freed up to go after stuff in the body

instead of being used up in digestion.

http://www.gerson. org/g_therapy/ default.asp

Have you seen Matthias Rath's protocol for cancer? He has a group of nutrients

he believes stop the growth and spread of cancer. I really admire him, ever

since I read he was trying to give out free supplements to " AIDS " victims in

Africa, saying a lot of their symptoms were not " AIDS " but malnutrition.

http://www4. dr-rath-foundati on.org/NHC/ cancer/cellular_ solutions. htm

Gaston Naessens has an interesting theory that cancer is caused by the lymph

getting too congested. I've read nothing about lymph that would convince me

otherwise. So anything that could get the lymph flowind better would probably

be helpful as well - skin brushing, rebounder, castor oil packs.

http://www.whale. to/cancer/ naessens. html (see the video - requires patience

tho for the first few minutes)

You may also want to look at the Beck Protocol, by C. Beck.

video.google. com/videoplay? docid=-338394831 5844437935 (117 min.)

Some think there is a conspiracy by the pharmaceutical industry to suppress

cancer cures that work, but I think it is more a problem of hubris. They've

invested too much into their paradigm to allow that it could have significant

holes. They will attack viciously tho if you do.

If you're interested in the glucose use of cancer, have you read yet about

insulin-loading? That sounds really interesting!

One more thing, Jerry Brunetti said if you let them take a biopsy of the cancer,

make sure they test their proposed chemotherapy agenst against it in the lab -

many times that can show whether it can work against the particular type of

cancer or not.

Thanks for sharing what you're finding out with us!

[Guest guest]

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> Yeah, she's doesn't like the taste of the magnesium oil and isn't have the

600mg throughout the day like she probably needs.  She is also having cheese

throughout the day which may be causing constipation.  Does raw milk cause

constipation if you drink it cold?  Will it cause constipation in some people if

it is not fermented?

I take strong tasting minerals by putting them into empty gelatine capsules.

Milk in any form including fermented is well known for causing constipation (and

mucous), I believe the casein is the culprit. Milk does this to my family - but

we do eat butter & cream okay (lower casein content).

Jewel