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Hi group. I came across this article on Facebook, written by an IR--He says

Restenosis is a matter of when not if. He says that's not a deterrent, just

something everyone should expect, regardless of stent or balloon. He says CCSVI

can last anywhere from 4 months to 18 months before needing repeating...For me

this has really made me less likely to do it. Anyway, here is the articl:

Read this article by Dr. Hewett - an IR at Pacific Interventionalists in

California - it will help you - RESTENOSIS WILL HAPPEN - Venous Stenting and

CCSVI ~ Dr. Hewett presentation January 29, 2011 (Seattle)

by Venöse Multipl...e Sklerose, CVI & SVI, CCSVI on Tuesday, February 1, 2011 at

1:10pm

" Driving down the side streets will never be as fast as driving down the

highway " ~ Dr. ph Hewett commenting on collateral veins and why we need to

treat CCSVI.

Dr. Hewett wanted to do the session to correct a lot of misinformation that is

circulating about stents. First, he detailed a long history of using stents to

correct circulatory problems, beginning in 1856 with a dentist aptly named " Dr.

Stent. " With angioplasty becoming commonplace after 1964, stenting eventually

became associated with this procedure by 1994. In 2003, drug coated stents for

arteries were developed to prevent restenosis.

Stents were used in many areas of the body, beginning with the liver and trachea

before being used for arterial procedures. Many types of stents are appropriate

for use in veins; in fact, stents are not designed for only one type of vessel,

but are designed in terms of what they can achieve in terms of improving blood

flow.

Surprisingly, Dr. Hewett said there's no proof stents keep veins open longer

than angioplasty alone. This, of course, doesn't refer to situations where

angioplasty failed to work in a particular location, but refers to a comparison

between veins successfully treated with angioplasty versus veins successfully

treated with a stent. Dr. Hewett stressed that ALL VEINS WILL RESTENOSE. It's

not a matter of " if " -- it is a matter of " when. " Restenosis generally occurs

after 4-6 months and usually much later (12-18 months) and is a very gradual

process taking many months before total restenosis happens. He said that if

symptoms return before the 4-6 month period, it is a matter of undertreatment

and not restenosis.

Stents should be 20% wider than the vein in which they are placed. If a stent is

put in properly, it won't move (sometimes called " jumping " ). Stents are not,

contrary to a lot of the buzz out there surrounding CCSVI, strangers to veins --

Dr. Hewett says he has placed over 5000 venous stents over his 15 year career.

For instance, May-Thurner Syndrome has been known for decades and usually

requires a stent. Kidney dialysis patients also need stents in their veins

because angioplasty is not effective for their needs. The main issue is whether

to use a stent in the first place. If it is indicated for a number of reasons,

such as blood flow and patient outcomes, it is best to use it. In terms of

CCSVI, though, stent use is still quite rare.

Some issues people worry about with stents is a stent fracture. This is a very

low incidence occurrence and may not actually lead to a problem for the patient.

Stents may also be too small for their location and need to be fractured

deliberately by widening with angioplasty. To deal with fractures, another,

larger stent needs to be placed inside the smaller one to cover any exposed

edges of the fractured stent. These corrections work quite well with few

complications.

The azygos vein is unique in that there's only one vein providing drainage for

this area of the body. Many other veins, such as the jugular veins, have

backups; the azygos does not. This vein can get squished between the heart and

the spine. A branch of the vein, the hemiazygos, can get squished by the aorta.

Because there are no alternative veins to supply drainage, these areas often

need stenting because angioplasty alone will not keep blood flowing.

Presence of a stenosis is sometimes difficult to detect and isn't strictly a

visual determination. A pressure gradient of 3-5 mm of mercury before and after

the blockage warrants treatment. This is a much lower pressure gradient than was

traditionally thought to cause problems. Dr. Hewett describes the situation

where a patient has symptoms indicating a problem with the azygos (walking,

bowel, bladder), but no obvious stenoses. He recommends using balloons to assess

the vein three dimensionally because a two dimensional assessment (dye) may not

be sufficient to detect a stenosis. He feels the azygos is a crucial area for MS

patients to have completely assessed.

However, blockages do not always need to be treated. It is necessary to look at

the big picture and always try angioplasty first if symptoms are present.

Sometimes leaving a vein stenosis intact is preferable because angioplasty would

not significantly affect clinical outcomes for the patient and would

unnecessarily damage the vein. Jugular veins are rarely, rarely stented. Dr.

Hewett is now using fewer stents in this area than when he first started

treating CCSVI a year ago.

In the question and answer period, Dr. Hewett stressed that we should get the

fluoro time from our treatment doctors because of the potential radiation

exposure. This time indicates how long we were exposed to the dye used during

the procedure to assess blood flow. In the United States and Canada, it is the

law to keep this time very short. Dr. Code mentioned one patient who had CCSVI

treatment and had two hours of radiation exposure during the procedure, leading

to all of her hair falling out. Dr. Hewett said this couldn't happen in the US

or Canada because of the regulations. He didn't think patients need to be overly

concerned about repeated angioplasties (meaning repeated exposure to this dye),

mentioning that we probably are exposed to more radiation coming out of building

materials used in our homes; however, it is important to keep this information

in our medical records.

After treatment, aggressive anti-inflammatory protocols (diet, drugs) will

minimize scarring and prolong treatment effects. But remember, RESTENOSIS WILL

HAPPEN. (I find it curious restenosis is often cited as a reason a) not to have

CCSVI treatment in the frst place, and B) evidence of a failed treatment. It is

neither -- it is expected with CCSVI angioplasties as it is with all other

angioplasties.)

Finally, Dr. Hewett closed with stressing the need for a lifelong commitment to

monitor and treat restenosis because it will happen in every location that has

been angioplastied. He said there's no difficulty if we have to have

angioplasty, for instance, every three years throughout our lives to make sure

our veins stay open. He left it open that a more permanent solution may be found

eventually.

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Thank you Alan for your post, with an appointment for CCSVI scheduled for May

19th this gives me more information going into the procedure. Thank you. Did

you find this under the doctor’s name or the CCSVI profile page?

Edie

From: Alan

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 12:16 PM

To: mscured

Subject: Restenosis is a matter of when not if--According to this

expert

Hi group. I came across this article on Facebook, written by an IR--He says

Restenosis is a matter of when not if. He says that's not a deterrent, just

something everyone should expect, regardless of stent or balloon. He says CCSVI

can last anywhere from 4 months to 18 months before needing repeating...For me

this has really made me less likely to do it. Anyway, here is the articl:

Read this article by Dr. Hewett - an IR at Pacific Interventionalists in

California - it will help you - RESTENOSIS WILL HAPPEN - Venous Stenting and

CCSVI ~ Dr. Hewett presentation January 29, 2011 (Seattle)

by Venöse Multipl...e Sklerose, CVI & SVI, CCSVI on Tuesday, February 1, 2011

at 1:10pm

" Driving down the side streets will never be as fast as driving down the

highway " ~ Dr. ph Hewett commenting on collateral veins and why we need to

treat CCSVI.

Dr. Hewett wanted to do the session to correct a lot of misinformation that is

circulating about stents. First, he detailed a long history of using stents to

correct circulatory problems, beginning in 1856 with a dentist aptly named " Dr.

Stent. " With angioplasty becoming commonplace after 1964, stenting eventually

became associated with this procedure by 1994. In 2003, drug coated stents for

arteries were developed to prevent restenosis.

Stents were used in many areas of the body, beginning with the liver and trachea

before being used for arterial procedures. Many types of stents are appropriate

for use in veins; in fact, stents are not designed for only one type of vessel,

but are designed in terms of what they can achieve in terms of improving blood

flow.

Surprisingly, Dr. Hewett said there's no proof stents keep veins open longer

than angioplasty alone. This, of course, doesn't refer to situations where

angioplasty failed to work in a particular location, but refers to a comparison

between veins successfully treated with angioplasty versus veins successfully

treated with a stent. Dr. Hewett stressed that ALL VEINS WILL RESTENOSE. It's

not a matter of " if " -- it is a matter of " when. " Restenosis generally occurs

after 4-6 months and usually much later (12-18 months) and is a very gradual

process taking many months before total restenosis happens. He said that if

symptoms return before the 4-6 month period, it is a matter of undertreatment

and not restenosis.

Stents should be 20% wider than the vein in which they are placed. If a stent is

put in properly, it won't move (sometimes called " jumping " ). Stents are not,

contrary to a lot of the buzz out there surrounding CCSVI, strangers to veins --

Dr. Hewett says he has placed over 5000 venous stents over his 15 year career.

For instance, May-Thurner Syndrome has been known for decades and usually

requires a stent. Kidney dialysis patients also need stents in their veins

because angioplasty is not effective for their needs. The main issue is whether

to use a stent in the first place. If it is indicated for a number of reasons,

such as blood flow and patient outcomes, it is best to use it. In terms of

CCSVI, though, stent use is still quite rare.

Some issues people worry about with stents is a stent fracture. This is a very

low incidence occurrence and may not actually lead to a problem for the patient.

Stents may also be too small for their location and need to be fractured

deliberately by widening with angioplasty. To deal with fractures, another,

larger stent needs to be placed inside the smaller one to cover any exposed

edges of the fractured stent. These corrections work quite well with few

complications.

The azygos vein is unique in that there's only one vein providing drainage for

this area of the body. Many other veins, such as the jugular veins, have

backups; the azygos does not. This vein can get squished between the heart and

the spine. A branch of the vein, the hemiazygos, can get squished by the aorta.

Because there are no alternative veins to supply drainage, these areas often

need stenting because angioplasty alone will not keep blood flowing.

Presence of a stenosis is sometimes difficult to detect and isn't strictly a

visual determination. A pressure gradient of 3-5 mm of mercury before and after

the blockage warrants treatment. This is a much lower pressure gradient than was

traditionally thought to cause problems. Dr. Hewett describes the situation

where a patient has symptoms indicating a problem with the azygos (walking,

bowel, bladder), but no obvious stenoses. He recommends using balloons to assess

the vein three dimensionally because a two dimensional assessment (dye) may not

be sufficient to detect a stenosis. He feels the azygos is a crucial area for MS

patients to have completely assessed.

However, blockages do not always need to be treated. It is necessary to look at

the big picture and always try angioplasty first if symptoms are present.

Sometimes leaving a vein stenosis intact is preferable because angioplasty would

not significantly affect clinical outcomes for the patient and would

unnecessarily damage the vein. Jugular veins are rarely, rarely stented. Dr.

Hewett is now using fewer stents in this area than when he first started

treating CCSVI a year ago.

In the question and answer period, Dr. Hewett stressed that we should get the

fluoro time from our treatment doctors because of the potential radiation

exposure. This time indicates how long we were exposed to the dye used during

the procedure to assess blood flow. In the United States and Canada, it is the

law to keep this time very short. Dr. Code mentioned one patient who had CCSVI

treatment and had two hours of radiation exposure during the procedure, leading

to all of her hair falling out. Dr. Hewett said this couldn't happen in the US

or Canada because of the regulations. He didn't think patients need to be overly

concerned about repeated angioplasties (meaning repeated exposure to this dye),

mentioning that we probably are exposed to more radiation coming out of building

materials used in our homes; however, it is important to keep this information

in our medical records.

After treatment, aggressive anti-inflammatory protocols (diet, drugs) will

minimize scarring and prolong treatment effects. But remember, RESTENOSIS WILL

HAPPEN. (I find it curious restenosis is often cited as a reason a) not to have

CCSVI treatment in the frst place, and B) evidence of a failed treatment. It is

neither -- it is expected with CCSVI angioplasties as it is with all other

angioplasties.)

Finally, Dr. Hewett closed with stressing the need for a lifelong commitment to

monitor and treat restenosis because it will happen in every location that has

been angioplastied. He said there's no difficulty if we have to have

angioplasty, for instance, every three years throughout our lives to make sure

our veins stay open. He left it open that a more permanent solution may be found

eventually.

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Hi all,

I'm another lurker her, don't contribute much but read emails daily. I am

wondering is the level of stenosis the same for everyone i.e do people with

more sever types of MS have a milder or fewer blockage, or has everyone the

same? Would this impact on restenosis?Or maybe people just have different

forms of MS and the blockages are all the same.

Eimear

>

>

> Hi group. I came across this article on Facebook, written by an IR--He says

> Restenosis is a matter of when not if. He says that's not a deterrent, just

> something everyone should expect, regardless of stent or balloon. He says

> CCSVI can last anywhere from 4 months to 18 months before needing

> repeating...For me this has really made me less likely to do it. Anyway,

> here is the articl:

>

> Read this article by Dr. Hewett - an IR at Pacific Interventionalists

> in California - it will help you - RESTENOSIS WILL HAPPEN - Venous Stenting

> and CCSVI ~ Dr. Hewett presentation January 29, 2011 (Seattle)

> by Venöse Multipl...e Sklerose, CVI & SVI, CCSVI on Tuesday, February 1,

> 2011 at 1:10pm

> " Driving down the side streets will never be as fast as driving down the

> highway " ~ Dr. ph Hewett commenting on collateral veins and why we need

> to treat CCSVI.

>

> Dr. Hewett wanted to do the session to correct a lot of misinformation that

> is circulating about stents. First, he detailed a long history of using

> stents to correct circulatory problems, beginning in 1856 with a dentist

> aptly named " Dr. Stent. " With angioplasty becoming commonplace after 1964,

> stenting eventually became associated with this procedure by 1994. In 2003,

> drug coated stents for arteries were developed to prevent restenosis.

>

> Stents were used in many areas of the body, beginning with the liver and

> trachea before being used for arterial procedures. Many types of stents are

> appropriate for use in veins; in fact, stents are not designed for only one

> type of vessel, but are designed in terms of what they can achieve in terms

> of improving blood flow.

>

> Surprisingly, Dr. Hewett said there's no proof stents keep veins open

> longer than angioplasty alone. This, of course, doesn't refer to situations

> where angioplasty failed to work in a particular location, but refers to a

> comparison between veins successfully treated with angioplasty versus veins

> successfully treated with a stent. Dr. Hewett stressed that ALL VEINS WILL

> RESTENOSE. It's not a matter of " if " -- it is a matter of " when. " Restenosis

> generally occurs after 4-6 months and usually much later (12-18 months) and

> is a very gradual process taking many months before total restenosis

> happens. He said that if symptoms return before the 4-6 month period, it is

> a matter of undertreatment and not restenosis.

>

> Stents should be 20% wider than the vein in which they are placed. If a

> stent is put in properly, it won't move (sometimes called " jumping " ). Stents

> are not, contrary to a lot of the buzz out there surrounding CCSVI,

> strangers to veins -- Dr. Hewett says he has placed over 5000 venous stents

> over his 15 year career. For instance, May-Thurner Syndrome has been known

> for decades and usually requires a stent. Kidney dialysis patients also need

> stents in their veins because angioplasty is not effective for their needs.

> The main issue is whether to use a stent in the first place. If it is

> indicated for a number of reasons, such as blood flow and patient outcomes,

> it is best to use it. In terms of CCSVI, though, stent use is still quite

> rare.

>

> Some issues people worry about with stents is a stent fracture. This is a

> very low incidence occurrence and may not actually lead to a problem for the

> patient. Stents may also be too small for their location and need to be

> fractured deliberately by widening with angioplasty. To deal with fractures,

> another, larger stent needs to be placed inside the smaller one to cover any

> exposed edges of the fractured stent. These corrections work quite well with

> few complications.

>

> The azygos vein is unique in that there's only one vein providing drainage

> for this area of the body. Many other veins, such as the jugular veins, have

> backups; the azygos does not. This vein can get squished between the heart

> and the spine. A branch of the vein, the hemiazygos, can get squished by the

> aorta. Because there are no alternative veins to supply drainage, these

> areas often need stenting because angioplasty alone will not keep blood

> flowing.

>

> Presence of a stenosis is sometimes difficult to detect and isn't strictly

> a visual determination. A pressure gradient of 3-5 mm of mercury before and

> after the blockage warrants treatment. This is a much lower pressure

> gradient than was traditionally thought to cause problems. Dr. Hewett

> describes the situation where a patient has symptoms indicating a problem

> with the azygos (walking, bowel, bladder), but no obvious stenoses. He

> recommends using balloons to assess the vein three dimensionally because a

> two dimensional assessment (dye) may not be sufficient to detect a stenosis.

> He feels the azygos is a crucial area for MS patients to have completely

> assessed.

>

> However, blockages do not always need to be treated. It is necessary to

> look at the big picture and always try angioplasty first if symptoms are

> present. Sometimes leaving a vein stenosis intact is preferable because

> angioplasty would not significantly affect clinical outcomes for the patient

> and would unnecessarily damage the vein. Jugular veins are rarely, rarely

> stented. Dr. Hewett is now using fewer stents in this area than when he

> first started treating CCSVI a year ago.

>

> In the question and answer period, Dr. Hewett stressed that we should get

> the fluoro time from our treatment doctors because of the potential

> radiation exposure. This time indicates how long we were exposed to the dye

> used during the procedure to assess blood flow. In the United States and

> Canada, it is the law to keep this time very short. Dr. Code mentioned one

> patient who had CCSVI treatment and had two hours of radiation exposure

> during the procedure, leading to all of her hair falling out. Dr. Hewett

> said this couldn't happen in the US or Canada because of the regulations. He

> didn't think patients need to be overly concerned about repeated

> angioplasties (meaning repeated exposure to this dye), mentioning that we

> probably are exposed to more radiation coming out of building materials used

> in our homes; however, it is important to keep this information in our

> medical records.

>

> After treatment, aggressive anti-inflammatory protocols (diet, drugs) will

> minimize scarring and prolong treatment effects. But remember, RESTENOSIS

> WILL HAPPEN. (I find it curious restenosis is often cited as a reason a) not

> to have CCSVI treatment in the frst place, and B) evidence of a failed

> treatment. It is neither -- it is expected with CCSVI angioplasties as it is

> with all other angioplasties.)

>

> Finally, Dr. Hewett closed with stressing the need for a lifelong

> commitment to monitor and treat restenosis because it will happen in every

> location that has been angioplastied. He said there's no difficulty if we

> have to have angioplasty, for instance, every three years throughout our

> lives to make sure our veins stay open. He left it open that a more

> permanent solution may be found eventually.

>

>

>

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Hi Eimear

As everything CCSVI is all new to most, the anoying answer is that no one knows

yet.

MY take on what the Neuros and MSSes around the world call 'MS' is a collection

of things all combining to form the collection of symptoms that are grouped

together and labelled 'MS'.

We now know that the 'multiple scars' are caused by the build up of iron in the

brain causing the 'scars/sclerosis' of said condition due to the reflux of the

blood held for way too long in our heads.

Add this to the 'leaky gut' theory, the bad dietary practices of most westerners

which has spread around the world as a type of status symbol type thing etc etc.

Add everything together and you have the problem we're all facing - but hey,

that's just MY theory and whilst I think it's pretty close to the answer, it's

just an opinion.

CCSVI is a vascular condition which is congenital and the stenosis takes time to

build to the point where the troubles start. Becaue everyone is different, each

individual's CCSVI will have built up at different rates, in different locations

in their bodies and in different severities. Everyone is different and their

bodies are reacting to things differently - not one of us has identical symptoms

or stenosis.

As time passes and as more information is gathered from the studies taking

place, I'm certain we'll have more answers which are more help than the only one

available right now which is 'No one knows for sure right now'. *shrugs*

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

> To: mscured

> From: eimarlaw@...

> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 07:17:19 +0100

> Subject: Re: Restenosis is a matter of when not if--According to

this expert

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'm another lurker her, don't contribute much but read emails daily. I am

> wondering is the level of stenosis the same for everyone i.e do people with

> more sever types of MS have a milder or fewer blockage, or has everyone the

> same?

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Hi Edie

Sorry to butt in here but no one (not even this IR) can say that restenosis will

definitely reoccur. Remember that there are many who've had the procedure and

not had any restenosis and their procedures were longer ago than the range this

guy apparently gives.

The surgeon (a true expert in his field) who performed my procedure in November

was working on the whole 'just in case' level in regards to the whole

'to-stent-or-not-to-stent' question so we decided my Azygous should remain

unstented becaue no one could say whether it would restenose. When HE can't even

say for sure, I don't know that I would invest too much 'worry time' in the

article that Alan found to back up his fears.

No one knows for certain what causes the amounts of stenosis atached to CCSVI.

Until someone does know for sure and for certain, all these are just guesswork.

Stress and negative feelings, diet and lack of correct nutrients, bad/unhealthy

lifestyle choices - all these make 'MS' worse....now we know that 'MS' is

CCSVI's twin, couldn't these same things worsen/hasten rates and severity of

stenosis?

Right now nothing is certain in regards to all that is and makes up CCSVI - all

I can say for sure is that it has given me back my life and my smile! :)

Don't be put off and don't walk into it with any negativity - restenosis isn't

guaranteed at all. :)

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

To: mscured

From: eneil1309@...

Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:26:05 -0500

Subject: Re: Restenosis is a matter of when not if--According to this

expert

Thank you Alan for your post, with an appointment for CCSVI scheduled for May

19th this gives me more information going into the procedure. Thank you. Did you

find this under the doctor’s name or the CCSVI profile page?

Edie

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