Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 There are many problems with protein drinks according to Sally Fallon in her book Nourishing Traditions. The high temperatures used to process the proteins over- denatures them and increases nitrates and other carcinogens. Protein powders fed to animals lead to calcium imbalance. Unlike protein powders, animal proteins come with fat that contains vitamins A and D which allow for the assimilation of protein. I'm sure overconsumption of proteins has many unhealthful consequences. Probably most protein drinks are either soy based or contain unnatural additives like MSG, sugars, colorings, etc. common to processed foods. But it seems that even the natural protein drinks are unhealthy in many ways. What are your opinions of protein drinks and lists of problems they create? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Many protein drinks are soy-based, but many are not: egg, casein, whey, peas, rice, and probably others but these are the main ones I've seen. I have great respect for Sally's opinion because she does her research. However, I am not sure that the fact that many or most protein powders undergo excessively high heat processing necessarily means that all of them do. A few brands (such as the one sold be Mercola) claim to be processed at a lower temperature so the proteins are not denatured. I'm not in a position to know whether these claims are true. It's easy to imagine this is marketing fluff, but I can also believe some are legit. If anyone knows how to tell the difference, I'd love to hear it. Again, some drinks contain MSG, sugars (esp fructose), colorings etc., but at least some of them don't and make that a selling point. It is a good point that high protein should not be consumed without a good amount of fat. Assuming no other problems with a particular brand, drinking it with full-fat milk or coconut milk and/or with added coconut oil could easily take care of the fat requirement. But I just don't know whether there are products that truly are processed in a non-harmful way or not. I have a hard time eating breakfast, and sometimes a whey shake is just the thing. Given that my diet is otherwise pretty in sync with WAPF principles, I doubt that the occasional whey shake is harming me, as I'm careful about which brands I buy and I eat lots of fat. But I don't feel confident enough about the issue to make recommendations to anyone else. If anyone else has more detailed research on these drinks, I'd love to see a reference. Thanks, Jeanmarie On Aug 11, 2009, at 8:36 AM, ccmg1234 wrote: > There are many problems with protein drinks according to Sally > Fallon in her book Nourishing Traditions. The high temperatures used > to process the proteins over- denatures them and increases nitrates > and other carcinogens. Protein powders fed to animals lead to > calcium imbalance. Unlike protein powders, animal proteins come with > fat that contains vitamins A and D which allow for the assimilation > of protein. I'm sure overconsumption of proteins has many > unhealthful consequences. Probably most protein drinks are either > soy based or contain unnatural additives like MSG, sugars, > colorings, etc. common to processed foods. But it seems that even > the natural protein drinks are unhealthy in many ways. What are your > opinions of protein drinks and lists of problems they create? > > > __._. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I would think undenatured whey protein such as designs for health or immunocol would be good for your health. They are high in cystine and immunoglobins. Excellent for repair and aging. But it's probably better just to do raw milk instead because it does have more fat in it. From: ccmg1234 <ccmg5678@...> Subject: Protein drinks good or bad? Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:36 AM There are many problems with protein drinks according to Sally Fallon in her book Nourishing Traditions. The high temperatures used to process the proteins over- denatures them and increases nitrates and other carcinogens. Protein powders fed to animals lead to calcium imbalance. Unlike protein powders, animal proteins come with fat that contains vitamins A and D which allow for the assimilation of protein. I'm sure overconsumption of proteins has many unhealthful consequences. Probably most protein drinks are either soy based or contain unnatural additives like MSG, sugars, colorings, etc. common to processed foods. But it seems that even the natural protein drinks are unhealthy in many ways. What are your opinions of protein drinks and lists of problems they create? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I don't quite trust Mercola's whey product. I called their company and others that get the whey from Ori Hoffmekler and they don't specify what temperatures they heated it at or if it is derived from pasteurized or unpasteurized dairy sources. They don't list a profile of the immunoglobins either. Another reason I don't trust the product. I would instead go for immunocol, designs for health whey, or source naturals undenatured whey. > There are many problems with protein drinks according to Sally > Fallon in her book Nourishing Traditions. The high temperatures used > to process the proteins over- denatures them and increases nitrates > and other carcinogens. Protein powders fed to animals lead to > calcium imbalance. Unlike protein powders, animal proteins come with > fat that contains vitamins A and D which allow for the assimilation > of protein. I'm sure overconsumption of proteins has many > unhealthful consequences. Probably most protein drinks are either > soy based or contain unnatural additives like MSG, sugars, > colorings, etc. common to processed foods. But it seems that even > the natural protein drinks are unhealthy in many ways. What are your > opinions of protein drinks and lists of problems they create? > > > __._. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I'm also not as trusting of Mercola as I used to be, especially in light of his recent campaign against CLO that misrepresented the WAPF foundation and the facts about CLO. It sort of looks like he's trying to discredit CLO to drive traffic to his krill oil instead. Thanks for the Immunocol and Designs for Health recommendations. I'm not really in the market for whey, I just have a little leftover from a previous purchase, but I may check those out in the future. On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Holt wrote: > I don't quite trust Mercola's whey product. I called their company > and others that get the whey from Ori Hoffmekler and they don't > specify what temperatures they heated it at or if it is derived from > pasteurized or unpasteurized dairy sources. > > They don't list a profile of the immunoglobins either. Another > reason I don't trust the product. I would instead go for immunocol, > designs for health whey, or source naturals undenatured whey. > > > > From: Jeanmarie Todd <jaytee3@...> > Subject: Re: Protein drinks good or bad? > > Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 10:46 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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