Re: OMG !!! You have got to read this quote Please about MS

[Guest guest]

I was reading in Elaine's book that drug manufactures change the pH of the brain

water in order to alter the results of the placebo. She said doing this will

increase the number of lesions in the brain. I was wondering if that means if

you have a alkaline diet if it will decrease the lesions ??? Any ideas. Is it

as simple as changing the ph of our diet and maybe alkaline water like kagan to

improve our functioning?

On page 202-203 They said it doesn't make Cents of her book MS the prokarin

story, she says " The NMSS also support drug trials that base their efficacy as

an treatment for MS on the changes of the lesion in the brain as seen on the MRI

via T2 weighted scans. However, science has shown any change in the composition

of the tissue in the brain can produce an abnormal image or white spot lesion

appearance on the T2 weighted MRI scan. Thus, even the placebo can be made to

cause an increase in the white spot lesions seen on the MRI, by simply changing

the composition of the tissue of the brain.

Unfortunately, most of the FDA approved medications for MS do not reveal what

ingredients the placebo was comprised of, instead the studies just state that

the placebo looked similar to the active drug. Thus, the pharmaceutical

companies can manipulate the data regarding side-effects, changes in the

lesions, and even exacerbation's of the MS disease.

For example,a certain ingredient known to change the pH of the water content of

the brain tissue can be added to the placebo, which would result in an increase

in white spots seen on the T2 weighted MRI scan in the placebo group, result in

the appearance that the group who received the active drug had fewer lesions

than the placebo group.

If the drug being tested causes certain side effects, an ingredient can be added

to the placebo so the placebo group appears to have a rate of similar side

effects as those receiveng the active drug, and thus it diminishes the side

effects attributed to the use of the drug. "

So if we change the ph of our brain will we decrease symptoms as it implys

????? Has anyone tried the alkaline diet???? Is this your interpretation of

this statement?

Her book also shows where Dr. Behan witnessed via MR spectroscopy that myelin

cells degrade before the immune system attacts showing that MS is not an

autoimmune disease.

It says the MS society HYPOTHESIS that MS is an autoimmune disease. That just

means its an educated guess, there is no proof.

Back in college to become an RN all the pharmacology books would hypothesis how

medication worked but not really know especially when related to psyc. meds.

They are guessing on our brains when it comes to MS. Scary.

She says the ms medications were made from meds tested for cancer. When they

failed they tried them on people with MS.

Copy, paste it and put it in your browser. I checked it and it works.

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> aliison hi - no such link?

> regards/peter

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> Subject: Prokarin, what it does

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> www.aeholland.com/prokarindrinfo.pdf

[Guest guest]

Oh my, this is really scary.

I must say I believe it to be possible.

I refused to take part in the clinical trials/researches, because I was

suspicious of something like this...

The conspiracy beyond the medical machinery is far beyond our reach.

To get alkaline is a suggested approach to diet indeed. Chlorella helps this for

sure. Even dr.Mercola and many others suggest " alkalize or die " ... Its

essential for our bodies.

I'm not convinced the MRI's show a significant state our disease is in. Even the

doc's admit they don't know much, particularly about the spine lesions I have,

in the lower spine that is. It can be caused by just about anything, been there

for ages, or hide for a while.

I just approach it from the fact that I am challenged by this physical condition

which happens to fall under the " diagnosis cathegory " called by them MS. Is all.

May we all heal.

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> > aliison hi - no such link?

> > regards/peter

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> > To: mscured

> > Sent: Sunday, 29 May 2011, 17:17

> > Subject: Prokarin, what it does

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> > www.aeholland.com/prokarindrinfo.pdf

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[Guest guest]

I have heard of placebo spiking before, it just goes to show you how bad big

pharma truly is.

Placebo spiking for a MS drug is ideal for them as it is hard to detect as

attacks are random

and sporadic so it isnt noticable that there is a worsening in the placebo

control group.

By definition the placebo control shouldnt change or worse case scenario it

should

improve due to placebo effect if at all, but not worsen.

So in cases of other drug trials like cholesterol drug where there is a more

steady

value in the data, it would be more obvious of placebo spiking, as the

placebo group

would have increased cholesterol and that would be very obvious that there

is something not right.

Like I said, their cholesterol should stay stable or decrease due to placebo

but if you see

the control group increasing for the worse, then that is a red flag for

placebo tampering.

But think about MS, random attacks, the placebo tampering would be lost in

the data

or be dismissed because of the sporadic nature of attacks.

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> Oh my, this is really scary.

> I must say I believe it to be possible.

> I refused to take part in the clinical trials/researches, because I was

> suspicious of something like this...

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[Guest guest]

I am parasympathetic dominant with alkaline blood and I need a less alkaline

diet. She also says to eat meat (which is acidic) with Prokarin.

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> I was reading in Elaine's book that drug manufactures change the pH of the

brain

> water in order to alter the results of the placebo. She said doing this will

> increase the number of lesions in the brain. I was wondering if that means

if

> you have a alkaline diet if it will decrease the lesions ??? Any ideas. Is

it

> as simple as changing the ph of our diet and maybe alkaline water like kagan

to

> improve our functioning? >

[Guest guest]

The profitable disease model is that we have a confused immune system that is

mysteriously attacking our central nervous system, that requires a patented

(expensive) drug to regulate it.

This is like when the medical-industrial-complex had determined that Type-A

personalities stomach's produced too much acid. Along came some Australian

researchers that figured out all that was needed to fix the ulcers were some

antibiotics. They won a Nobel Prize for their efforts.

I have been using antibiotics to treat my MS.

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim,

You're not the only ones who think this same way!

I think most of us in the Yahoo groups feel that it's not a 'disease' - now that

we can see the vascular congenital connection as a large part /factor, it can't

really be seen as a 'disease' anymore.

Remember that YOU aren't the ignorant one - YOU know more about it than many GPs

and specialists!

I reckon that that can be said of all of us. Good points !

'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.'

MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.)

To: mscured

From: tloftus@...

Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:36:55 +0000

Subject: Re: OMG !!! You have got to read this quote Please about MS

Bravo Stacey. It's nice to hear someone who thinks the same as I do about MS.

Whenever I have said that MS is not a disease, but only a diagnosis of symptoms,

people look at me like I'm ignorant, so I don't say it much anymore and search

for a cure with open minded Doctors.

[Guest guest]

Shucks! You may already know all this, or it may not be applicable, but here

is a link to an antibiotic protocol data resource.

http://www.thisisms.com/ftopict-6557.html

P

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> How are the antibiotics working for you? Have they improved symptoms?

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> Good question. Another disease name for my sickness is " neuro borreliosis " .

Turns out it is bacteria that have caused my many scars in my brain and spinal

cord.

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> If my physicians had caught this early on in my sickness, I would be healthy

today.

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> Another bacteriological infection that causes MS like problems is " chlamydia

pneumonia "

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> A more common name for my sickness is Lyme Disese. I rather dislike that name

as it was a name made to sell a now failed vaccine.

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> I had a drastic improvement about 5 weeks after starting doxycycline. Now I

am learning that it is somewhat common for people to suddenly get better, then

the sickness comes back extra strong :-(

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