Re: Re: would like info on lactose intolerance

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Maybe people like food they're allergic to because it gives you a sort of high.

People that are dairy intolerant are said to handle goats milk a lot better.  I

don't know anything about sheeps milk.

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: would like info on lactose intolerance

Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 4:01 AM

 

A lot of African-Americans are dairy intolerant (I think it's

more than just the lactose) because their ancestors didn't consume dairy, but in

parts of Africa dairy was an important part of their diet, so it's not skin

color as much as ancestry that determines it, I believe.

My daughter had lots of behavior problems when she drank milk - oppositional/

defiant behavior, moodiness, learning problems. She would actually cry for a

cup of milk, she wanted it that much. We switched to soy for awhile (gasp!) and

she got better. She is able to tolerate raw milk very well, along with sheep

milk products (even cheese where heating is part of the process).

Ironically, now that she can tolerate the milk she doesn't drink that much of

it. I do think there is a piece of craving the foods they're allergic to.

--- In , Gayle hardine <ghardine02@ ...>

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therefore, my 3 step-sons are all part Black and part White.  Of course these

are all just words, it can be hard to tell how " Black " or " White " someone really

is and in what context.  His ex-wife is somewhat dark and so are the boys,

although they are lighter than she is.  The issue is that I think they are all

lactose intolerant.  I don't know if they are more likely to be lactose

intolerant if they are darker or not.  Their mother is lactose intolerant.  The

oldest boy has alot of mucus.  He is continually blowing his nose, clearing his

throat and he has a problem with acne.  The middle boy has lots of emotional

upsets.  He is anxious, anxiety ridden, cries sometimes, gets angry and

sometimes gets violent and hits things.  He has hit people in school.  The

youngest boy is very lethargic, and has multiple learning disabilities. The boys

will swear that they are not

> lactose intolerant, give as proof that they love milk and get quite upset at

the thought that they give it up.  This attitude just makes me think that they

do have a problem with it.  I know that lactose intolerance is not an allergy,

but I have heard that people with allergies often love and crave the food they

are allergic to.  Can this be the same with people who are lactose intolerance,

will they also love and crave milk?  Maybe it's not even lactose and they should

just be drinking raw milk or maybe they're really are allergic to milk, all

milk.  Does any of this sould like lactose intolerance or milk allergy.  Also,

is it true that people who are lactose intolerant will have no problem drinking

raw milk?

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> Two of the boys live with us and we have to buy 2 gallons of milk about every

3 days.  The oldest boy drinks even more milk than his brothers do that live

with us.  This is regular pasteurized, homogenized milk, because , the

youngest, will not drink raw milk.  He doesn't like it and says it has a weird

after taste.  I also buy 1 1/2 gallons of raw milk a week, which their father

likes and the older boy, does also.  However, doesn't always drink

it as he is worried about the increased fat.  I have tried to explain that it's

healthier and may alleviate some of his problems. 

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> Their father just says it wouldn't matter if they are lactose intolerant or

not, because you can overcome lactose intolerance.  By drinking milk you will

develop lactase.  If that were true, there would be no lactose intolerance or

mention of it.  If milk made people sick they would just keep drinking it, since

most people are unaware of what makes them sick and the lactose intolerance

would go away.  I don't think it works that way, at all.  I think it may be

possible to develop lactase, if you stop drinking milk for a period of time and

then reintroduce it in small amounts at intervals.  It doesn't just happen.  If

anyone has any insight into this could you please let me know.  I would love to

just get rid of the other milk and only have raw, but these are teenagers, and

it's so hard to interest them in what's healthy for them.

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> Thank you so much for any information you can provide,

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[Guest guest]

That seems to be the consensus of the more nutritionally oriented

health-care practitioners. We crave the things we are allergic to

because there is some sort of endorphin high involved.

On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:13 AM, Holt wrote:

> Maybe people like food they're allergic to because it gives you a

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[Guest guest]

Well maybe there are both healthy cravings and unhealthy ones.

Ross and others who treat addiction nutritionally talk about this.

Sometimes I crave meat, but I don't think I'm addicted! <g> I eat it

several times a week but not daily, and not at every meal, and not

huge portions. I'd like to eat more than I do but I can't seem to make

it happen. On the other hand, if I crave the sea salt caramels at

Harvest Market in Fort Bragg, I do not think that's the angel on my

shoulder talking...I use sea salt every day, it's not a salt craving!

<g>

Jeanmarie

On Aug 13, 2009, at 5:49 PM, carolyn_graff wrote:

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[Guest guest]

We have things now that mess with our heads and lead us away from nutrition. 

Examples are refined foods/salts/sugar, pasteurized foods, vegetables oils,

etc.  They lead us to poor health and our minds foreget what is healthy for us. 

I know just by watching my mother eat, she doesn't really care for the raw milk,

the codliver oil, or the coconut oil.  She still craves pasteurized milk,

vegetable oil, canned foods, pasteurized cheese, and all kinds of sweets. 

Obviously her mind intuition isn't telling her what is good for her and what is

bad for her.  I don't feel a craving for vital nutrients.  However, When I do

have the great quality nutrients my body needs my cravings go away, my moods

balance out, my sleep improves, my random aches go away, and my mental and

physical recovery increases from day to day.  Cravings alot of the time are cost

by deficient foods.  Our mind tells us when need to eat more of it until we get

adequate nutrients, but

we never do because the said food had been stripped of them.  It's a snowball

effect.  It's like a dog that continues to chase his tail.  The only real big

cravings I get are for rolled salami with cream cheese, sushi, saki, fried

wonton, Rockstar orange energy drinks, pasteurized milk, chocolate syrup, cooked

dark meat chicken, chicken hearts, lobster, crab, bacon, and steak tacos cooked

in vegetable or olive oil.

From: carolyn_graff <zgraff@...>

Subject: Re: would like info on lactose intolerance

Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 5:49 PM

 

OTOH, maybe we crave the things that contain nutrients that we

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It seems like our American society is paying for a whole lot of mistakes from

that time period and many people aren't really aware of it.  But if you really

think about it..

From: haecklers <haecklers@...>

Subject: Re: would like info on lactose intolerance

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 3:07 AM

 

There's another factor, tho, the psychological effect of

eating those foods. The " comfort food " factor of positive associations we link

to memories of other times we've eaten it. Really, I can't think of a single

other reason someone would eat canned food! LOL! For your mom's era, packaged

foods were the convenience foods that made meals quicker and less labor, broke

women from the bondage of the kitchen to allow them to make the gains of women's

movement - have jobs, rights, votes, become equals in society. Few at the time

realized the cost.

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