Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Do you have better sources then that British Israelism website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Individual topics and scientific research to look into: Pigs can't sweat Pigs excrete puss from the area around their hooves at times, why? Pigs only have one stomach Pigs are capable of carrying far more parasites than other animal meat. Pigs carry a lot of toxins in their lean muscle tissue Harmful effects of pig meat for human consumption My personal opinion. It's best to consume ruminant animals raised on their native diet under high quality mineral rich fertilized soil that are efficient at digesting their feed and who's only meat source is insects/worms. Scavengers excluded. The evolution of many europeans: we cope better with disease and toxins when exposed to pigs versus other cultures because we consume them often and under especially unhealthy conditions with improper cooking and improper feed/farming for the pig. For example: the massive deaths of native americans when merely just being around pigs. Dan Holt From: doublethink03 <doublethink03@...> Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:15 AM Do you have better sources then that British Israelism website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 B.S. Sex is good for you-- oxytocin and other good hormones are released, and it can be healing to feel close to a partner. I feel like I can safely discount anything of God says, based solely on that recommendation. Good thing too- I enjoy sex as much as the next girl and feel its part of a healthy, happy life. ___________________________________________________________ I don't feel the religious talk was necessary but I do appreciate the fact that this guy did provide plenty of interesting relevant facts. Speaking of religion, there is a healer name of God who recommends that people refrain from swine, sex, pepper, or alcohol for a long period of time while he does his miracle healing or benefits will reverse. http://revver.com/video/485122/john-of-god-forceps-surgery/ http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/porkfacts.html _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Q\ uickAdd_062009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Like sex pig has a lot of good benefits too. I can't find any reasons why sex would be unhealthy, it just stumps me. Dan Holt From: Amy Sikes-Dorman <amysikesdorman@...> Subject: RE: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. " Native Nutrition " < > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 7:38 AM B.S. Sex is good for you-- oxytocin and other good hormones are released, and it can be healing to feel close to a partner. I feel like I can safely discount anything of God says, based solely on that recommendation. Good thing too- I enjoy sex as much as the next girl and feel its part of a healthy, happy life. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ I don't feel the religious talk was necessary but I do appreciate the fact that this guy did provide plenty of interesting relevant facts. Speaking of religion, there is a healer name of God who recommends that people refrain from swine, sex, pepper, or alcohol for a long period of time while he does his miracle healing or benefits will reverse. http://revver. com/video/ 485122/john- of-god-forceps- surgery/ http://www.ensignme ssage.com/ archives/ porkfacts. html ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive. com/Tutorial/ Hotmail/QuickAdd ?ocid=TXT_ TAGLM_WL_ HM_Tutorial_ QuickAdd_ 062009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 So you'd not eat pork or cat fish or chicken? How about the eggs from those scavenging chickens? Belinda > > In general I'd say to avoid scavengers such as pigs or bottom feeders from the ocean because it appears that since their role is to clean up the environment of toxins, they happen to carry a lot of toxins in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the extra fat, thank you very much. Bill --- In , Holt < > THE > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine > or other poisons. > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom. > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms. > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be > killed. > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus > 11:8). > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism. > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > There are > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to show why > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only need one > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > " And > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase. " > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > Those who > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed > the laws of biology. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 He provided unsubstantiated allegations, not " relevant facts. " You can't say definitively, for instance, that " pigs have over a dozen parasites in them. " Really? All pigs, always, raised in any kind of condition? Nonsense. Pastured pork is fine food. I'd like to see some scientific citations. Leviticus and Deuteronomy don't qualify. Jeanmarie On Sep 27, 2009, at 1:25 AM, Holt wrote: > In general I'd say to avoid scavengers such as pigs or bottom > feeders from the ocean because it appears that since their role is > to clean up the environment of toxins, they happen to carry a lot of > toxins in them. > > I don't feel the religious talk was necessary but I do appreciate > the fact that this guy did provide plenty of interesting relevant > facts. > > Speaking of religion, there is a healer name of God who > recommends that people refrain from swine, sex, pepper, or alcohol > for a long period of time while he does his miracle healing or > benefits will reverse. > > http://revver.com/video/485122/john-of-god-forceps-surgery/ > > http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/porkfacts.html > > THE > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > Christians > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > the eating > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > biological principles. > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > food to eat: > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > excrement, > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > will even > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > can be > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > meat so what > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > be filtered > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > digest the > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > is a > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > not sweat, > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > strychnine > or other poisons. > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > pigs > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > venom. > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > and faster > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > of worms. > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > tapeworms, > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > pork can > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > will be > killed. > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > 8.5 grams > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > has 11.1 > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > takes > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > purified > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > hours to > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > humans. > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > carcase (Leviticus > 11:8). > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > ingested > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > brain. This > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > lacking, but > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > arthritis, > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > acute alcoholism. > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > sewer > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > the foot. > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > system > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > There are > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > show why > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > need one > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > " And > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > it is unclean > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > carcase. " > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > Those who > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > stomach > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > never changed > the laws of biology. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 This is both bad religion and bad biology. I've observed pigs and other animals decay, there are a lot of variables but I've seen ruminants decay down faster than pigs. Decay is part of nature, 'worms' and all. Both cooking and freezing can kill trich and other parasites, etc. It is typical of a Judaizing teacher to quote OT texts and ignore the plain teachings of Christ and His apostles. They are dangerous and deluded. Pete Holt wrote: > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > and faster > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of > worms. > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > tapeworms, > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > pork can > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > will be > killed. > > > There are > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > show why > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > need one > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > " And > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it > is unclean > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > carcase. " > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > Those who > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > stomach > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never > changed > the laws of biology. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Hello, On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Holt <danthemanholt@...>wrote: > I don't feel the religious talk was necessary but I do appreciate the fact > that this guy did provide plenty of interesting relevant facts. > Really? The things listed below were " facts " ? If so, it should be fairly easy to find some sources for them. > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > excrement, > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will > even > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > Pigs are omnivores, just like humans. Chickens are also omnivores. Many animals will eat things that seem gross to us. Dogs ad chickens have been known to eat feces. Rabbits eat their own young. To single out the pig for this activity seems unfair. The truth of the matter is, a pig raised on a wholesome, healthy diet, in a clean environment will prefer other foods to excrement. > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > I don't really even know what this means. However a search for " pig meat toxic " (sans quotes) in Google finds half a dozen references to the list of " facts " you presented (no sources) and half a dozen references to a tainted pig meat recall from Ireland. And as we know, peppers, peanuts and spinach are just as likely to be involved in a mass recall, so I don't think that is the kind of " toxic " that I'd particular be concerned about when purchasing pork from a local pasture farmer. > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so > what > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be > filtered > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > I can't find anything on this one one way or another. However, it presupposes that pigs are toxic, so I'll throw this one out with the one before it. > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not > sweat, > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > Dogs and cats don't sweat either. Birds don't sweat. I'm pretty sure that if sweating removed toxins (which according to many reputable sources is a myth itself), then the other animals wold have developed an alternate way of dealing with toxins. And again, singling out a pig for this seems unfair. We eat chickens, don't we? > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > strychnine > or other poisons. > First of all, this is pretty dramatic language. Pigs are poisonous? If so, then how come I'm not dead yet? My great great grandfather raised pastured pigs on his small farm. I eat pork occassionally. I'm tempted to throw this one out because it sounds so preposterous. Not to mention, it doesn't seem to make logical sense. After all, you can kill poisonous spiders with poison, can't you? And yet, I did a search on google to see what I could find. I found a reference on how to poison feral pigs, so it must be possible to poison them. As for strychnine specifically, I found no references to pigs, but plenty to GUINEA pigs (aka cavies). Apparently, it doesn't harm them, but it is probably just because their body can neutralize it more efficiently than other animals. No weird thing going on. Ok, I'm stopping here because I don't want to waste my day. This list is so ridiculous. Come back when you have something that has been fact checked or at least has some sources on it. And no obviously biased language. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 I read in a book where the author looked at the history of different domesticated species that the reason pigs were forbidden had more to do with the fact that with their large litter size and interesting organ of procreation (it's not the tail that's a corkscrew) they became a symbol of fertility in some cultures. Some non-Jewish cultures in/near Israel had whopping fun fertility festivals that involved drinking, feasting on pork and lots of " fertility acts " , if you know what I mean. With parties like that as a " religious " celebration, they were getting lots of converts from the local youth. Banning pork was symbolic of keeping the kids (and older people) away from those pig roasts, since the pig roasts were symbolic of the all the rest to them. > > In general I'd say to avoid scavengers such as pigs or bottom feeders from the ocean because it appears that since their role is to clean up the environment of toxins, they happen to carry a lot of toxins in them. > > I don't feel the religious talk was necessary but I do appreciate the fact that this guy did provide plenty of interesting relevant facts. > > Speaking of religion, there is a healer name of God who recommends that people refrain from swine, sex, pepper, or alcohol for a long period of time while he does his miracle healing or benefits will reverse. > > http://revver.com/video/485122/john-of-god-forceps-surgery/ > > http://www.ensignmessage.com/archives/porkfacts.html > > THE > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine > or other poisons. > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom. > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms. > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be > killed. > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus > 11:8). > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism. > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > There are > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to show why > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only need one > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > " And > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase. " > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > Those who > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed > the laws of biology. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Cows have four stomachs to completely digest that grass. From: Bill <lynchwt@...> Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the extra fat, thank you very much. Bill --- In , Holt < > THE > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet Christians > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned the eating > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound biological principles. > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy food to eat: > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine > or other poisons. > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom. > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms. > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be > killed. > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus > 11:8). > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism. > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > There are > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to show why > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only need one > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > " And > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, it is unclean > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase. " > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > Those who > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their stomach > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ never changed > the laws of biology. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 For all your amusement. http://www.livestockforlandscapes.com/pdfs/CowsEatRabbits.pdf Cows will scavenge with the best of them in order to fill nutritional needs. My father is an old time farmer (80 years old), I sent him this article and he wasn't the least bit surprised as he knew cows would pick up bones out in the pasture and munch on those to get the calcium, phosphorous, and etc from them. They'd also get hunks of dried leather hide to chew on as well. Cows do not just eat grass. They also eat dirt to get nutrients. The oddest thing for me to watch was my first dairy cow licking the dirt between beautifully lush grass rather than eating the grass growing in it. How many bugs do they eat while grazing? Besides cows, I've watched my ducks eat dog poop straight, flipped it up in the air and down it went no picking through for bugs or anything. I was a little grossed out by that one though.. lol Still eat duck though. I also watch my chickens eat the same stuff my hogs do. Oh, then our chickens catch and eat mice, it's rather entertaining to watch. They taught the ducks how to be mice catchers as well, the ducks just swallow them whole though... So I thought you might all enjoy a farmers perspective whose experienced many an odd thing... Holt wrote: > > > Cows have four stomachs to completely digest that grass. > > > > From: Bill <lynchwt@... <mailto:lynchwt%40gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. > > <mailto: %40> > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > extra fat, thank you very much. > > Bill > > --- In , Holt < > > > THE > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > Christians > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > the eating > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > biological principles. > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > excrement, > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > will even > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > can be > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > meat so what > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > be filtered > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > digest the > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > is a > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > not sweat, > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > strychnine > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > pigs > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > venom. > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > and faster > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > of worms. > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > tapeworms, > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > pork can > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > will be > > > killed. > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > 8.5 grams > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > has 11.1 > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > takes > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > purified > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > hours to > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > humans. > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > carcase (Leviticus > > > 11:8). > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > ingested > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > brain. This > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > lacking, but > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > arthritis, > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > sewer > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > the foot. > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > system > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > There are > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > show why > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > need one > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > " And > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > it is unclean > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > carcase. " > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > Those who > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > stomach > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > never changed > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Do you raise any pigs? > > From: Bill <lynchwtgmail (DOT) com <mailto:lynchwt% 40gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. > > <mailto:native- nutrition% 40groups. com> > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > extra fat, thank you very much. > > Bill > > --- In , Holt < > > > THE > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > Christians > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > the eating > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > biological principles. > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > excrement, > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > will even > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > can be > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > meat so what > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > be filtered > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > digest the > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > is a > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > not sweat, > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > strychnine > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > pigs > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > venom. > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > and faster > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > of worms. > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > tapeworms, > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > pork can > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > will be > > > killed. > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > 8.5 grams > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > has 11.1 > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > takes > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > purified > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > hours to > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > humans. > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > carcase (Leviticus > > > 11:8). > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > ingested > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > brain. This > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > lacking, but > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > arthritis, > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > sewer > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > the foot. > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > system > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > There are > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > show why > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > need one > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > " And > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > it is unclean > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > carcase. " > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > Those who > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > stomach > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > never changed > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Did you happen to not catch the part where I said " I've watched my chickens eat the same things as my hogs do " ? Holt wrote: > > > Do you raise any pigs? > > > > > > > > From: Bill <lynchwtgmail (DOT) com <mailto:lynchwt% 40gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to > eat. > > > > > > <mailto:native- nutrition% 40groups. com> > > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > > > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > > > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > > > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > > > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > > > extra fat, thank you very much. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In , Holt < > > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > > > Christians > > > > > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > > > the eating > > > > > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > > > biological principles. > > > > > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > > > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > > > excrement, > > > > > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > > > will even > > > > > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > > > can be > > > > > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > > > meat so what > > > > > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > > > be filtered > > > > > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > > > digest the > > > > > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > > > is a > > > > > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > > > not sweat, > > > > > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > > > strychnine > > > > > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > > > pigs > > > > > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > > > venom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > > > and faster > > > > > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > > > of worms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > > > tapeworms, > > > > > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > > > pork can > > > > > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > > > will be > > > > > > > killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > > > 8.5 grams > > > > > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > > > has 11.1 > > > > > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > > > takes > > > > > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > > > purified > > > > > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > > > hours to > > > > > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > > > humans. > > > > > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > > > carcase (Leviticus > > > > > > > 11:8). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > > > ingested > > > > > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > > > brain. This > > > > > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > > > lacking, but > > > > > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > > > arthritis, > > > > > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > > > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > > > sewer > > > > > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > > > the foot. > > > > > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > > > system > > > > > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > > > show why > > > > > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > > > need one > > > > > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > > > > > " And > > > > > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > > > it is unclean > > > > > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > > > carcase. " > > > > > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > > > > > Those who > > > > > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > > > stomach > > > > > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > > > never changed > > > > > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Ah, and yes, our hogs are raised on pasture. Now here's something for all of you to chew on. Yes, there are people allergic to pork meat, I also have a family member who can NOT eat beef grass-finished or not. She can eat venison but not beef. I'm friends with another lady who can NOT eat chicken or their eggs, home pasture raised or not. So allergies to pig meat are not the only ones out there; it's probably just the most picked on. Holt wrote: > > > Do you raise any pigs? > > > > > > > > From: Bill <lynchwtgmail (DOT) com <mailto:lynchwt% 40gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to > eat. > > > > > > <mailto:native- nutrition% 40groups. com> > > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > > > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > > > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > > > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > > > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > > > extra fat, thank you very much. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In , Holt < > > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > > > Christians > > > > > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > > > the eating > > > > > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > > > biological principles. > > > > > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > > > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > > > excrement, > > > > > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > > > will even > > > > > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > > > can be > > > > > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > > > meat so what > > > > > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > > > be filtered > > > > > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > > > digest the > > > > > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > > > is a > > > > > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > > > not sweat, > > > > > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > > > strychnine > > > > > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > > > pigs > > > > > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > > > venom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > > > and faster > > > > > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > > > of worms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > > > tapeworms, > > > > > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > > > pork can > > > > > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > > > will be > > > > > > > killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > > > 8.5 grams > > > > > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > > > has 11.1 > > > > > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > > > takes > > > > > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > > > purified > > > > > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > > > hours to > > > > > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > > > humans. > > > > > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > > > carcase (Leviticus > > > > > > > 11:8). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > > > ingested > > > > > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > > > brain. This > > > > > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > > > lacking, but > > > > > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > > > arthritis, > > > > > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > > > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > > > sewer > > > > > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > > > the foot. > > > > > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > > > system > > > > > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > > > show why > > > > > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > > > need one > > > > > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > > > > > " And > > > > > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > > > it is unclean > > > > > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > > > carcase. " > > > > > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > > > > > Those who > > > > > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > > > stomach > > > > > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > > > never changed > > > > > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yes, and pigs digest the feces, urine, cancer and other garbage you say they eat. Why would any of that survive digestion? The whole point of digestion for any animal is to break down food into units that can serve as building blocks for the biological needs of the body. Putting aside chemicals like pesticides that biological systems have not evolved to break down, " scavengers " don't pass on what they eat to those of us that eat them. They perform an ecological service--we might as well avoid vegetables because they were fed by worms that eat dirt and nasty stuff. Bill > > From: Bill <lynchwt@...> > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > � > > > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the extra fat, thank you very much. > > > > Bill > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Have you ever seen pus come out around your pig's hooves or other pig's hooves? > > > > > > From: Bill <lynchwtgmail (DOT) com <mailto:lynchwt% 40gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to > eat. > > > > > > <mailto:native- nutrition% 40groups. com> > > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > > > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > > > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > > > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > > > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > > > extra fat, thank you very much. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In , Holt < > > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > > > Christians > > > > > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > > > the eating > > > > > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > > > biological principles. > > > > > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > > > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > > > excrement, > > > > > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > > > will even > > > > > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > > > can be > > > > > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > > > meat so what > > > > > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > > > be filtered > > > > > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > > > digest the > > > > > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > > > is a > > > > > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > > > not sweat, > > > > > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > > > strychnine > > > > > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > > > pigs > > > > > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > > > venom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > > > and faster > > > > > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > > > of worms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > > > tapeworms, > > > > > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > > > pork can > > > > > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > > > will be > > > > > > > killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > > > 8.5 grams > > > > > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > > > has 11.1 > > > > > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > > > takes > > > > > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > > > purified > > > > > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > > > hours to > > > > > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > > > humans. > > > > > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > > > carcase (Leviticus > > > > > > > 11:8). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > > > ingested > > > > > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > > > brain. This > > > > > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > > > lacking, but > > > > > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > > > arthritis, > > > > > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > > > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > > > sewer > > > > > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > > > the foot. > > > > > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > > > system > > > > > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > > > show why > > > > > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > > > need one > > > > > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > > > > > " And > > > > > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > > > it is unclean > > > > > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > > > carcase. " > > > > > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > > > > > Those who > > > > > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > > > stomach > > > > > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > > > never changed > > > > > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I wasn't arguing about that. The main point I got out of the article is that pigs don't really filter out toxins so there are toxins located all throughout their tissue that we may consume. They also eat poisonous animals and can handle snake bites. Not sure if it is true since I don't have the research but you may or may not know because you've had experience with the pigs. > > > > > > From: Bill <lynchwtgmail (DOT) com <mailto:lynchwt% 40gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to > eat. > > > > > > <mailto:native- nutrition% 40groups. com> > > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > > > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > > > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > > > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > > > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > > > extra fat, thank you very much. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In , Holt < > > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > > > Christians > > > > > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > > > the eating > > > > > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > > > biological principles. > > > > > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > > > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > > > excrement, > > > > > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > > > will even > > > > > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > > > can be > > > > > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > > > meat so what > > > > > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > > > be filtered > > > > > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > > > digest the > > > > > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > > > is a > > > > > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > > > not sweat, > > > > > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > > > strychnine > > > > > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > > > pigs > > > > > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > > > venom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > > > and faster > > > > > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > > > of worms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > > > tapeworms, > > > > > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > > > pork can > > > > > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > > > will be > > > > > > > killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > > > 8.5 grams > > > > > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > > > has 11.1 > > > > > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > > > takes > > > > > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > > > purified > > > > > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > > > hours to > > > > > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > > > humans. > > > > > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > > > carcase (Leviticus > > > > > > > 11:8). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > > > ingested > > > > > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > > > brain. This > > > > > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > > > lacking, but > > > > > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > > > arthritis, > > > > > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > > > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > > > sewer > > > > > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > > > the foot. > > > > > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > > > system > > > > > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > > > show why > > > > > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > > > need one > > > > > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > > > > > " And > > > > > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > > > it is unclean > > > > > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > > > carcase. " > > > > > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > > > > > Those who > > > > > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > > > stomach > > > > > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > > > never changed > > > > > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Can't find any published studies. Here is what Sally Fallon has to add in: <<<<<Where is your study for the harmful effects of the consumption of parasite free organic pork meat on human's blood chemistry for several hours?>>>>> It was first of all an unpublished study done back in the 1980s, personal communication, Pat Connolly of PPNF. But I did ask a person who does live blood cell analysis a few years ago and he told me the same thing, that he sees what he called " undesirable " changes in the blood after pork consumption. On the other hand, many health traditional peoples consume pork. I consume pork. So faced with this conflicting information, I have listed pork as a food that is fine for people that are healthy, but those dealing with serious illness may want to avoid it. Sally I had a Chinese man tell me that in the West, we don't know how to properly prepare pork. I needs to be soaked in vinegar before cooking. This is a kind of fermentation as is curing. Would be really interesting to do research comparing cured/soaked pork versus fresh pork. Sally From: doublethink03 <doublethink03@...> Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:15 AM Do you have better sources then that British Israelism website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 A reason people may develop allergies is because those people are unable to produce enzymes to digest the meat since they cook it all the time. A theory is maybe they consumed that type animal meat cooked too much so they used up those enzymes. Or I could be wrong and they are allergic to it no matter what. > > > > > > From: Bill <lynchwtgmail (DOT) com <mailto:lynchwt% 40gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to > eat. > > > > > > <mailto:native- nutrition% 40groups. com> > > > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > > > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > > > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > > > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > > > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > > > extra fat, thank you very much. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In , Holt < > > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > > > Christians > > > > > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > > > the eating > > > > > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > > > biological principles. > > > > > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > > > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > > > excrement, > > > > > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > > > will even > > > > > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > > > can be > > > > > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > > > meat so what > > > > > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > > > be filtered > > > > > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > > > digest the > > > > > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > > > is a > > > > > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > > > not sweat, > > > > > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > > > strychnine > > > > > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > > > pigs > > > > > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > > > venom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > > > and faster > > > > > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > > > of worms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > > > tapeworms, > > > > > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > > > pork can > > > > > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > > > will be > > > > > > > killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > > > 8.5 grams > > > > > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > > > has 11.1 > > > > > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > > > takes > > > > > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > > > purified > > > > > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > > > hours to > > > > > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > > > humans. > > > > > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > > > carcase (Leviticus > > > > > > > 11:8). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > > > ingested > > > > > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > > > brain. This > > > > > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > > > lacking, but > > > > > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > > > arthritis, > > > > > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > > > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > > > sewer > > > > > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > > > the foot. > > > > > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > > > system > > > > > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are > > > > > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > > > show why > > > > > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > > > need one > > > > > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > > > > > " And > > > > > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > > > it is unclean > > > > > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > > > carcase. " > > > > > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > > > > > Those who > > > > > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > > > stomach > > > > > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > > > never changed > > > > > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 , I've also heard of horses snacking on rodents that were in/near their grain or hay and they could catch. Dawn From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gasper Family Farm Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. For all your amusement. http://www.livestockforlandscapes.com/pdfs/CowsEatRabbits.pdf Cows will scavenge with the best of them in order to fill nutritional needs. My father is an old time farmer (80 years old), I sent him this article and he wasn't the least bit surprised as he knew cows would pick up bones out in the pasture and munch on those to get the calcium, phosphorous, and etc from them. They'd also get hunks of dried leather hide to chew on as well. Cows do not just eat grass. They also eat dirt to get nutrients. The oddest thing for me to watch was my first dairy cow licking the dirt between beautifully lush grass rather than eating the grass growing in it. How many bugs do they eat while grazing? Besides cows, I've watched my ducks eat dog poop straight, flipped it up in the air and down it went no picking through for bugs or anything. I was a little grossed out by that one though.. lol Still eat duck though. I also watch my chickens eat the same stuff my hogs do. Oh, then our chickens catch and eat mice, it's rather entertaining to watch. They taught the ducks how to be mice catchers as well, the ducks just swallow them whole though... So I thought you might all enjoy a farmers perspective whose experienced many an odd thing... Holt wrote: > > > Cows have four stomachs to completely digest that grass. > > > > From: Bill <lynchwt@... <mailto:lynchwt%40gmail.com> <mailto:lynchwt%40gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. > <mailto: %40> > <mailto: %40> > Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 9:34 AM > > > > Come on, Dan, this is nonsense. " Poisonous and filthy " is not a > biological description. What exactly do you think will happen to you > when you eat a pig that ate decaying food, maggots, and urine, > assuming there were no pesticides in its food? I can't handle eating > grass either, but grass-fed beef is not bad for me. And I'll take the > extra fat, thank you very much. > > Bill > > --- In , Holt < > > > THE > > > pig or swine is a very popular food item with most Christians. Yet > Christians > > > are unaware that the God they profess to believe in had condemned > the eating > > > of swine's flesh. The condemnation was based on some very sound > biological principles. > > > Here are some facts on pork that prove it to be a very unhealthy > food to eat: > > > > > > > > > > > > A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, > excrement, > > > dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They > will even > > > eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals. > > > > > > The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat > can be > > > 30 times more toxic than beef or venison. > > > > > > When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the > meat so what > > > little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can > be filtered > > > by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to > digest the > > > meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time. > > > > > > Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration > is a > > > means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does > not sweat, > > > the toxins remain within its body and in the meat. > > > > > > Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with > strychnine > > > or other poisons. > > > > > > Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the > pigs > > > will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the > venom. > > > > > > When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner > and faster > > > than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full > of worms. > > > > > > > > > Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as > tapeworms, > > > flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which > pork can > > > be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs > will be > > > killed. > > > > > > Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains > 8.5 grams > > > of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib > has 11.1 > > > grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat. > > > > > > Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus > takes > > > over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be > purified > > > of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 > hours to > > > digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh. > > > > > > The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to > humans. > > > This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their > carcase (Leviticus > > > 11:8). > > > > > > The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once > ingested > > > can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the > brain. This > > > results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes > lacking, but > > > when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, > arthritis, > > > rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or > acute alcoholism. > > > > > > > > > The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a > sewer > > > line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of > the foot. > > > Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its > system > > > fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig. > > > > > > There are > > > other reasons grounded in biological facts that could be listed to > show why > > > pigs and swine should not be eaten. But a true Christian should only > need one > > > reason why not to eat this type of food because God prohibited it. > > > " And > > > the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet does not chew the cud, > it is unclean > > > unto you: you shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead > carcase. " > > > - Leviticus 11:7,8; Deuteronomy 14:8 > > > Those who > > > say Christ abolished the law condemning pork are motivated by their > stomach > > > not Scripture. The problems with pork are biological, and Christ > never changed > > > the laws of biology. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 I think Sally also writes in Nourishing Traditions that one shouldn't eat pork. However, the reasons she gives are the same that I've read on vegan websites and they didn't convince me. Pigs certainly have been a part of healthy peoples' traditional diets, for example in Okinawa they've been a staple food as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 Perhaps it depends on the society. Pigs were kept in cities and cleaned up trash and rotting things, could also eat humans. It makes it seem kind of like cannibalism to eat something that was eating humans. Dogs also clean up a lot of waste and carrion and in many cultures are considered to be " filthy " animals also. Yet in some cultures they are a food source. Dawn From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of doublethink03 Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:49 AM Subject: Re: Reason why pigs pigs aren't the healthiest meat to eat. I think Sally also writes in Nourishing Traditions that one shouldn't eat pork. However, the reasons she gives are the same that I've read on vegan websites and they didn't convince me. Pigs certainly have been a part of healthy peoples' traditional diets, for example in Okinawa they've been a staple food as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 <<<Perhaps it depends on the society. Pigs were kept in cities and cleaned up trash and rotting things, could also eat humans. It makes it seem kind of like cannibalism to eat something that was eating humans.>> Eating human flesh may actually be good for people. Strangely enough whenever an aborigne would die the others would dig up the corpse after a couple days and eat it. They aren't sick people, they are considered very wise and kind. But they ate human flesh whenever they got the chance. It may not be healthy to eat modern people that follow Standard American Diet. I've heard of a princess or queen that would eat young women and was very youthful looking up to her 50s until she was persecuted from it centuries ago. <<<Dogs also clean up a lot of waste and carrion and in many cultures are considered to be " filthy " animals also. Yet in some cultures they are a food source.>> Yeah, the ignorant poor cultures that aren't as good off and most likely haven't developed a complex fundamental structure for even eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 lol That's an awfully bold statement. " Yeah, the ignorant poor cultures that aren't as good off and most likely haven't developed a complex fundamental structure for even eating. " You may want to research that before stating something as stupid as that. I do not consider the Chinese, whom developed the quite complex Eastern medicine, to be ignorant nor poor. In many countries it's considered a delicacy even by the wealthy. The Aztecs raised them for meat (granted they also performed human sacrifice) but they developed a very complex culture and historians and archaeologists have barely scratched the surface for what that culture accomplished. These are only two cultures. Please, next time take the time to read before you state something as silly as that. However, much of the dog eating is stopping due to the influence of western culture. And, no, I do not eat dog. Holt wrote: > > > > > > > <<<Perhaps it depends on the society. Pigs were kept in cities and > cleaned up > > trash and rotting things, could also eat humans. It makes it seem kind of > > like cannibalism to eat something that was eating humans.>> > > Eating human flesh may actually be good for people. Strangely enough > whenever an aborigne would die the others would dig up the corpse > after a couple days and eat it. They aren't sick people, they are > considered very wise and kind. But they ate human flesh whenever they > got the chance. It may not be healthy to eat modern people that > follow Standard American Diet. > > I've heard of a princess or queen that would eat young women and was > very youthful looking up to her 50s until she was persecuted from it > centuries ago. > > <<<Dogs also clean up a lot of waste and carrion and in many cultures are > > considered to be " filthy " animals also. Yet in some cultures they are > a food > > source.>> > > Yeah, the ignorant poor cultures that aren't as good off and most > likely haven't developed a complex fundamental structure for even eating. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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