Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Find a copy of Pottenger's Cats - fascinating book along the same lines as Price's book! A vet told me that carbs are terrible for cats - their digestive systems are built for eating meat and that's just about all. On the commercial diets that just about all contain corn, soy, etc. they eventually get diabetes and before that suffer health problems from the strain on their systems of eating too many carbs. Being outdoors is much healtier than being stuck indoors for them - they can eat grass (cats do need some greens), their fur makes a vitamin in the sunlight that they ingest when they lick their fur, and they can supplement their diet with fresh (whole) food - i.e. mice. There are healthy nutrients in the skin and joints, not to mention the " variety meats " . An outdoor cat is more likely to get worms, tho, especially roundworms and tapeworms. The kind of dewormer often sold for cats in pet stores gets rid of the worms by paralyzing them so they are passed out when the cat has a BM - that kind is supposed to be very safe. Adding iodine to the cat's drinking water can help as well. Our indoor/outdoor cat got a tapeworm from eating a mouse, so that is something to look out for as well. > > Okay, I know this is a group that discusses healthy diets for humans, > but I am wanting to know what is a good diet for a cat. He is no longer > a kitten...nearly full-grown. We just inherited him from our son. He > stays in our garage, and lounges on our front porch. I'm very allergic > to cats, so he will not be an indoor cat. He does catch mice, which is > very nice. :-) > > Please share any info. You can email me privately, if you wish. > > Thanks! > > -- > Betty Pearson, Lehi UT, > Betty@... > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Are you interested in a recipe for homemade food based on raw chicken legs and thighs? I have a recipe if you are interested. There is a commercial food, RadCat, that is based on raw chicken legs and thighs. But it is outrageously expensive at $12 for a 24 ounce container. The recipe I have uses the same ingredients. I can post if interested. Kathy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Betty Pearson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:22 AM Subject: healthy diet for a cat? Okay, I know this is a group that discusses healthy diets for humans, but I am wanting to know what is a good diet for a cat. He is no longer a kitten...nearly full-grown. We just inherited him from our son. He stays in our garage, and lounges on our front porch. I'm very allergic to cats, so he will not be an indoor cat. He does catch mice, which is very nice. :-) Please share any info. You can email me privately, if you wish. Thanks! -- Betty Pearson, Lehi UT, Betty@... <mailto:Betty%40ourldsfamily.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 There is a good cat nutrition and behavior groups list: cats-healthandbehavior/ One of the women on it has two blogs dedicated to cat nutrition, which might be helpful: http://felinenutritionalnotes.blogspot.com/ http://petfoodpitfalls.blogspot.com/ Cranberries, avocado, many of the vegetables in premium cat foods these days are not good for the cat. The ingredient in cranberries that helps humans fight bladder infections is actually an irritant to the cat's system. So they've got cranberries in cat food so people will think it helps prevent inappropriate elimination, and actually it irritates the cat's urinary system. Learning what ingredients are not desirable and then reading labels is best, and expensive isn't always better. Some of the cheaper cat foods have decent ingredients, and some of the high end cat foods are full of ingredients designed to appeal to the humans who are reading the labels. We feed our cats Innova EVO/ancestral diet, which isn't perfect but is better than most. We feed some raw and are moving to a fully raw diet. For some of the people, even feeding raw or even a frozen mouse isn't good enough because the blood has pooled. The folks who want to most closely provide the cat's native diet buy feeder mice and let the cats eat them. Still there is usually a need to supplement since in the wild the cat would eat a varied diet. -- www.kirkwoodrentals.com www.midnightmoondreams.blogspot.com twitter: moonrisefm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Radcat also has fiber in it and I think that's a dangerous irritant to the cat's GI tract. It's much better to get mOrigins and pay to have it shipped to you! It would be cheaper too even with an expensive shipping tacked onto it. http://www.mOrigins.com I hope to distribute it here in Texas if we have enough interest but I know she will ship it to you though she usually makes you go pick it up at the airline. I am not sure why she doesn't ship door to door like others. Also there is a lesser quality but still very good pet food (also grassfed beef) from http://www.TexasGrassfedBeef.com My Anatolian Shepherd was raised on this from a young pup and did very well. He also gets choice I have a recipe for raw diet, ground, with appropriate supplements on my website though it is always a work in progress. I do not believe feeding chicken parts as a staple food is a good idea though pastured chicken is loads better than what most " BARF " ers are getting. I did this with my Great Dane and she was always starving and stressed. The same amount pound for pound of a food like mOrigins settled her down and put more weight on her. Some of my kitten buyers use my recipe, others feed grain free dry foods that I recommend and I try always to keep the diet as little dry food as possible as that causes chronic dehydration. Cats aren't meant to eat dry food. I have a few kitten buyers who use feeder mice but they feed it raw. I do not advocate giving a cat a live mouse to eat. It is possible they could get injured and also they are not humane in their treatment of the mouse and it can be quite horrifying what they do to it. Some cats are more efficient killers but I am sure that comes after long years of practice. Dawn From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kathy Dickson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 7:23 AM Subject: RE: healthy diet for a cat? Are you interested in a recipe for homemade food based on raw chicken legs and thighs? I have a recipe if you are interested. There is a commercial food, RadCat, that is based on raw chicken legs and thighs. But it is outrageously expensive at $12 for a 24 ounce container. The recipe I have uses the same ingredients. I can post if interested. Kathy From: <mailto: %40> [mailto: <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of Betty Pearson Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:22 AM <mailto: %40> Subject: healthy diet for a cat? Okay, I know this is a group that discusses healthy diets for humans, but I am wanting to know what is a good diet for a cat. He is no longer a kitten...nearly full-grown. We just inherited him from our son. He stays in our garage, and lounges on our front porch. I'm very allergic to cats, so he will not be an indoor cat. He does catch mice, which is very nice. :-) Please share any info. You can email me privately, if you wish. Thanks! -- Betty Pearson, Lehi UT, Betty@... <mailto:Betty%40ourldsfamily.com> <mailto:Betty%40ourldsfamily.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 There are different opinions on that one. I think cats who stay indoors are terribly understimulated and may go a little mad at the lack of sensory input, moving things to chase, smells, etc. But we don't get highly bred cats, most of ours are from feral parents and may have more of their instincts intact so they need more activity than we can provide for them. Yes there are more dangers, but I wouldn't prevent my kids from going outdoors because it's safer in the house, either. Cats who aren't allowed outside are more likely to get lost (tho usually they just hide nearby) because they aren't used to being out there. > > Your vet is smart about diet. Many aren't so enlightened. =) the outside > thing though, there are so many perils for cats outside and I've lost more > than a few who got out. If one can create a truly escape proof yard that is > one thing or some runs like we are building for our studs that's one thing. > > > > My kittens buyers are told that outside is dangerous and cats aren't allowed > to go out unless it's in an escape proof enclosure or if they train them to > walk on a leash w/ harness. > > > > Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I'm interested On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:22 AM, Kathy Dickson wrote: > Are you interested in a recipe for homemade food based on raw chicken > legs > and thighs? I have a recipe if you are interested. There is a > commercial > food, RadCat, that is based on raw chicken legs and thighs. But it is > outrageously expensive at $12 for a 24 ounce container. The recipe I > have > uses the same ingredients. I can post if interested. Parashis artpages@... artpagesonline.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've been feeding raw meat, (he likes chicken, rabbit, pork and fish) organs and bones to my very healthy 18 year old cat for about 10 years. Now that he is getting older we also give him some ground meat in case he's not eating enough whole food. The ground meat comes from Hare Today http://www.hare-today.com/ Hare today sells the whole animal, or the whole animal ground up (including organs, bones and even fur if you want.) They also sell whole ground up mice! Judy > > Okay, I know this is a group that discusses healthy diets for humans, > but I am wanting to know what is a good diet for a cat. He is no longer > a kitten...nearly full-grown. We just inherited him from our son. He > stays in our garage, and lounges on our front porch. I'm very allergic > to cats, so he will not be an indoor cat. He does catch mice, which is > very nice. :-) > > Please share any info. You can email me privately, if you wish. > > Thanks! > > -- > Betty Pearson, Lehi UT, > Betty@... > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Oh yes... and he suppliments his diet with grass, crickets, other bugs he hunts down, he occasionally wants some of our kefir, loves butter and sometimes insists on licking coconut oil off a spoon. Judy --- In , " laughingpeace " <laughingpeace@...> wrote: > > I've been feeding raw meat, (he likes chicken, rabbit, pork and fish) organs and bones to my very healthy 18 year old cat for about 10 years. Now that he is getting older we also give him some ground meat in case he's not eating enough from the whole food. The ground meat comes from Hare Today > http://www.hare-today.com/ Hare today sells the whole animal, or the whole animal ground up ( " everything " including organs, bones and even fur if you want.) They also sell whole ground up mice! > > Judy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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