Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I would like your folks opinion on this. I contacted a company online and they sell the raw histamine. Do you think that this would work as in the goodship recipie?  According to what he said in his homemade patches that this is the ingredient? I am not a chemist or anything. If it is the right chemical it would seem to be a good price as it would make lots of the patch stuff? Many thanks for your inquiry about Histamine diphosphate on Alibaba First pls inform us your quantity, price much depend on your MOQ Here we would like to offer you the price of 1KG for your reference :C & F USA USD320 ly we do not know if have any special restrictions to your country. If export it to your country, then the material will be dispatched with anther chemcial name. Because In China, To exported chemicals we should offer Certification for Safe Transport of Chemical Goods (each should cost USD75)for our customs, so in order to save money for you we will use our existing certificate to ship this material, so we do not have to consier any restrictions Should you have any questions pls let us know Best regards Kathy International Sales & Marketing Dept. Shanghai Qiude Biochemical Engineering  Co., Ltd. (Gold Supplier and verified member of Alibaba) Add:No.688 QiuShi Road , Fine Chemical Industrial Park , Shanghai , China , 201512 Cell:+0086-18702133393 Tel:+0086-21-61849385 Fax: +0086-21-51714507 Email: Kathy@... MSN:kathywan621@... Skype:kathywan621 Web: www.qiude.com ________________________________ To: " lowdosenaltrexone " <lowdosenaltrexone >; " mscured " <mscured > Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 9:57:56 AM Subject: Prokarin  for those that are interested in prokarin i have received the below email from linda/medicine shop, linda's email address is on my original message regards peter Dear ,  Thank you for your enquiry about Prokarin. We do require a prescription from your physician, which we will have authorized by a Canadian physician for a fee of $10.00.  The Medicine Shoppe Pharmacy, Toronto, Canada is licensed to compound and ship Prokarin worldwide with the exception of the USA.  Prokarin is a Transdermal Disc that can be self-administered. If you would like additional information about Prokarin we would suggest that you visit the website of the developer of Prokarin at www.edmsllc.com.  We have shipped Prokarin to many countries in Central and Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Asia and Africa. We do advise that it would be prudent for you to check with the Customs and Excise Authorities in your country if it is possible to import Prokarin, as some countries do not allow the importation of medicines that are not available locally.  The cost of the Prokarin discs is $250.00 Canadian for a 4 week supply, PLUS all of the shipping costs involved. Shipping costs vary from country to country, once an order has been received we then contact our shipping company to request a quotation from them for shipping costs, which we then inform you of. Shipping costs to most European capital cities is approximately $50.00-$70.00. We ship with DHL Worldwide Express, delivery time is normally 2-3 days.  Once your order has been placed with us, we will need a physical street address for the delivery (Not a post office box) with a telephone number (fax number as well if it is available).  Payment for Prokarin is made to The Medicine Shoppe Pharmacy either by credit card, which is the best and most convenient form of payment, or by a direct wire transfer to our bank in Toronto. When payment in full has been received, we will ship the Prokarin to you.  Honiball THE MEDICINE SHOPPE PHARMACY 2917 Bloor Street West Toronto, ON  M8X 1B4 T: F:     From: Nicholls Sent: March-24-11 6:45 AM To: linda@... Subject: prokarin  hi linda  please advise proceedure on supply of prokarin  thanks  regards/peter/london/ppms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I was looking at the ingredients that goodshape used was a liquid and not a powder. So would there be a way to figure out the proper dilution of the powder and water? ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 10:07:44 AM Subject: Re: Prokarin  I would like your folks opinion on this. I contacted a company online and they sell the raw histamine. Do you think that this would work as in the goodship recipie?  According to what he said in his homemade patches that this is the ingredient? I am not a chemist or anything. If it is the right chemical it would seem to be a good price as it would make lots of the patch stuff? Many thanks for your inquiry about Histamine diphosphate on Alibaba First pls inform us your quantity, price much depend on your MOQ Here we would like to offer you the price of 1KG for your reference :C & F USA USD320 ly we do not know if have any special restrictions to your country. If export it to your country, then the material will be dispatched with anther chemcial name. Because In China, To exported chemicals we should offer Certification for Safe Transport of Chemical Goods (each should cost USD75)for our customs, so in order to save money for you we will use our existing certificate to ship this material, so we do not have to consier any restrictions Should you have any questions pls let us know Best regards Kathy International Sales & Marketing Dept. Shanghai Qiude Biochemical Engineering  Co., Ltd. (Gold Supplier and verified member of Alibaba) Add:No.688 QiuShi Road , Fine Chemical Industrial Park , Shanghai , China , 201512 Cell:+0086-18702133393 Tel:+0086-21-61849385 Fax: +0086-21-51714507 Email: Kathy@... MSN:kathywan621@... Skype:kathywan621 Web: www.qiude.com ________________________________ To: " lowdosenaltrexone " <lowdosenaltrexone >; " mscured " <mscured > Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 9:57:56 AM Subject: Prokarin  for those that are interested in prokarin i have received the below email from linda/medicine shop, linda's email address is on my original message regards peter Dear ,  Thank you for your enquiry about Prokarin. We do require a prescription from your physician, which we will have authorized by a Canadian physician for a fee of $10.00.  The Medicine Shoppe Pharmacy, Toronto, Canada is licensed to compound and ship Prokarin worldwide with the exception of the USA.  Prokarin is a Transdermal Disc that can be self-administered. If you would like additional information about Prokarin we would suggest that you visit the website of the developer of Prokarin at www.edmsllc.com.  We have shipped Prokarin to many countries in Central and Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Asia and Africa. We do advise that it would be prudent for you to check with the Customs and Excise Authorities in your country if it is possible to import Prokarin, as some countries do not allow the importation of medicines that are not available locally.  The cost of the Prokarin discs is $250.00 Canadian for a 4 week supply, PLUS all of the shipping costs involved. Shipping costs vary from country to country, once an order has been received we then contact our shipping company to request a quotation from them for shipping costs, which we then inform you of. Shipping costs to most European capital cities is approximately $50.00-$70.00. We ship with DHL Worldwide Express, delivery time is normally 2-3 days.  Once your order has been placed with us, we will need a physical street address for the delivery (Not a post office box) with a telephone number (fax number as well if it is available).  Payment for Prokarin is made to The Medicine Shoppe Pharmacy either by credit card, which is the best and most convenient form of payment, or by a direct wire transfer to our bank in Toronto. When payment in full has been received, we will ship the Prokarin to you.  Honiball THE MEDICINE SHOPPE PHARMACY 2917 Bloor Street West Toronto, ON  M8X 1B4 T: F:     From: Nicholls Sent: March-24-11 6:45 AM To: linda@... Subject: prokarin  hi linda  please advise proceedure on supply of prokarin  thanks  regards/peter/london/ppms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Joy, This is just my opinion. I understand the financial struggles of having MS and living with limited money and spending so much on our health. But your results are so remarkable that I would suggest that maybe for at least another month or two that you spend the mondy on the prescription one, keep seeing if this works for you, and then move into trying to make your own for less. Search through your budget to see if there is anywhere you can come up with the money short term while enjoying your amazing improvements. This is just my opinion. I know it is easier said than done when other bills like housing and food have to be paid. Alan. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 1:07:44 PM Subject: Re: Prokarin I would like your folks opinion on this. I contacted a company online and they sell the raw histamine. Do you think that this would work as in the goodship recipie? According to what he said in his homemade patches that this is the ingredient? I am not a chemist or anything. If it is the right chemical it would seem to be a good price as it would make lots of the patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 I'm not sensitive to mild heat. I have frog in the pot syndrome where I don't realize how hot I am until I'm weak from heat. I have sensitivity to cold. I think the dosage is why some people see relief from Prokarin, LDN and other treatments. You may have to experiment, like I did, to find the right dose for you. It isn't a universal amount. I don't have the fatigue that some people have either, a symptom that Prokarin addresses. I haven't used it for long. Nothing that I have done has worked better although many things have helped some. > > Hello, > I have had MS for more than 20 years and suffer from the normal fatigue etc; > plus a big foot drop. I am excited to see the progress of some people who have > started prokarin. I wanted to ask, if there are any of you, who are not > affected by heat. I can stand normal heat, it does not bother me. I do not know > if prokarin will help people like me.If normal heat does not bother you, and you > have improved with prokarin, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Thank you for your reply.I have always preffered a warm climate, rather than cold. Very cold weather numbs my legs and my body feels tight. I used to live in Jersey, and the lond winter used to bother me. Now I am in CA and it is better here. I do want to start the prokarin as soon as my huband gets a job. We will have health insurance then, and I may get a prescription for it.The $200 for a prescription(phone consultation) is a bit too much for me just now. Hope u continue getting better. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 6:23:04 PM Subject: Re: Prokarin  I'm not sensitive to mild heat. I have frog in the pot syndrome where I don't realize how hot I am until I'm weak from heat. I have sensitivity to cold. I think the dosage is why some people see relief from Prokarin, LDN and other treatments. You may have to experiment, like I did, to find the right dose for you. It isn't a universal amount. I don't have the fatigue that some people have either, a symptom that Prokarin addresses. I haven't used it for long. Nothing that I have done has worked better although many things have helped some. > > Hello, > I have had MS for more than 20 years and suffer from the normal fatigue etc; > plus a big foot drop. I am excited to see the progress of some people who have > started prokarin. I wanted to ask, if there are any of you, who are not > affected by heat. I can stand normal heat, it does not bother me. I do not know > > if prokarin will help people like me.If normal heat does not bother you, and >you > > have improved with prokarin, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 I too am sensitive to heat, but since starting the med my tolerance is increasing. Though a few weeks ago I didn't realize I overheated until it was too late. All of a sudden I was hit with symptoms. At the time it happened, I was taking the defective batch of prokarin. Elaine says the heat tolerance will improve over time with prokarin. At first she says not to stress the body out as I foolishly have been by over exercising or doing too many things as it will slow down healing. Lately, I don't have the foot drop anymore and mine was severe. I had to use the bioness to assist me walking. My fatigue is decreasing when I have a good patch on. The issue is I have two boxes and I don't know which one is the one that was cooled properly during delivery. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 6:23:04 PM Subject: Re: Prokarin I'm not sensitive to mild heat. I have frog in the pot syndrome where I don't realize how hot I am until I'm weak from heat. I have sensitivity to cold. I think the dosage is why some people see relief from Prokarin, LDN and other treatments. You may have to experiment, like I did, to find the right dose for you. It isn't a universal amount. I don't have the fatigue that some people have either, a symptom that Prokarin addresses. I haven't used it for long. Nothing that I have done has worked better although many things have helped some. > > Hello, > I have had MS for more than 20 years and suffer from the normal fatigue etc; > plus a big foot drop. I am excited to see the progress of some people who have > started prokarin. I wanted to ask, if there are any of you, who are not > affected by heat. I can stand normal heat, it does not bother me. I do not know > > if prokarin will help people like me.If normal heat does not bother you, and >you > > have improved with prokarin, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Tim, The Prokarin didn't work for me either. I felt worse and stopped it. I did not want to write it on the board as people seem so defensive there, just as for the same reason I didn't want to write anything negative about CCSVI there so a while back I wrote you off line about your experience. I decided not to do CCSVI until or unless the technique is improved on by the way. ly I don't think that many people have benefitted from Prokarin. I know Joy Inspired did amazing from it and that set off an excitement on the MSCured group. Since then Pugh has relayed a few minor improvements but other than that I don't think anyone else had any major improvements. I have researches Prokarint all over the Net and i can't find more than maybe 10 - 20 stories of positive experiences with Prokarin on the entire Net, and most of those lead to a link to the Custom Rx Shoppe to buy the product. Prokarin has been around for 10 years. I kind of think if it was " all that " it would be much more widely used by now. I could be wrong of course this is just my opinion. I take it you didn't stay on 's protocol? I haven't been able to keep to the fast, although I wanted/want to. Right now I am working with mega nutrition--tons of vegetables as the staple of my diet and then fruits, seeds, nuts, and a little salmon, occasional organic chicken, and some gluten free grains....Like people like Dr. Terry Wahls and also reading Dr. Fuhrman's work on nutrition now. Can't recall --Have you looked into heavy metal testing and chelation? that's another thing on my things to try list. Zoe ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Fri, April 29, 2011 2:12:10 PM Subject: Re: reaching out yet again  Thanks. I too am convinced that there is something killing me from the inside out and our medical community diagnosed me with PPMS on 2/1/08. I don't know what evil is in me; parasites, bacteria, virus, heavy metals, etc. but I am on a mission to find out. I have had blood drawn for tests so many times, I'm sick of it. Lyme was one of the first tests. I was on Avonex and then Copaxone for over a year. They did nothing to stop progression, so I stopped shooting them. I have been on the Swank Diet now for almost a year. I still take Baclofen and, like you, need a walker around the house, forearm crutches for short trips and a wheel chair for any substantial distances. We live in a two story, so I have to climb the stairs two or four times a day. I don't know which is more exhausting; the stairs or the shower. I tried chelation. I tried the O2 barametric chamber. I tried the CCSVI Liberation procedure. I have been on hormone therapy. I tried different supplements to try to clean up my body, and more. I spent more than I had. Currently I am on Kopera's PowerHouse Fast. I read her book, " Cure Yourself Naturally " , and got real interested. So far, I am only on Day3 of 30 days. I am not blessing it yet, but you may want to research her methods more in her book or at http://www.ginascorner.com/ Best wishes. -Tim > > > > > > > Not all LLMDs are equal. It is likely best to sift through a couple of > > > LLMDs. (base decisions of how well health is going -- my story) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yet again we all find that what works for one might not work for another. Prokarin may work for one, doesn't mean it'll work for another - as we have all learned and always have known, our bodies are unique and each person's 'MS' is unique.As a result, none of our treatments are 'failures' or 'scams', and if we rejig and condition the treatment to suit each of us individually, I think we have better results. I've had fantastic results from CCSVI and understand why others don't have the same results - all I ever have to say about CCSVI will be words of positivity and encouragement because of all the researc I'd done for the past 4+ years on it. I think we all need to do our own research and learn about each subject so we're better educated before making adecision on something either way. Just talk to Elaine Tim. See if she can recommend a rejig of the dosage for your system - give it a good honest shot....then you can cross it off the 'give it a try' list once you've given it an open-minded and positive go. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: zoehealthy@... Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:27:26 -0700 Subject: Prokarin Tim, The Prokarin didn't work for me either. I felt worse and stopped it. I did not want to write it on the board as people seem so defensive there, just as for the same reason I didn't want to write anything negative about CCSVI there so a while back I wrote you off line about your experience. I decided not to do CCSVI until or unless the technique is improved on by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 The treatment isn't the same for all of us and it could be that you gave up too quickly. You might do better if you had some help with contributing protocols. It hasn't been the same for me as it has been for Joy but I have serious disability and she doesn't. I never expected a quick-fix because there are too many variables. There are MANY positive testimonials for all kinds of treatment on the net and even here some do well on supplements and specific diets while others don't. The Newtonian, body as a machine, ideology has long been considered a failure here. > > Tim, > The Prokarin didn't work for me either. I felt worse and stopped it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 It continues to improve. If you have concerns call elaine. Subject: prokarin To: " mscured " <mscured > Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 2:52 PM  Hello everyone, I am at the end of my first month of porkarin and have seen small changes like, less fatigue, better sleep and a little improvement in walking. Please give me a feedback ,if any of you have been on prokarin for more tham a month. Do improvements continue? Prokarin is expansive, as there is no insurance coverage and a review from those who are using it, can help me . Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 It continues to improve. If you have concerns call elaine. Subject: prokarin To: " mscured " <mscured > Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 2:52 PM  Hello everyone, I am at the end of my first month of porkarin and have seen small changes like, less fatigue, better sleep and a little improvement in walking. Please give me a feedback ,if any of you have been on prokarin for more tham a month. Do improvements continue? Prokarin is expansive, as there is no insurance coverage and a review from those who are using it, can help me . Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 Thanks. To: mscured Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: prokarin  It continues to improve. If you have concerns call elaine. Subject: prokarin To: " mscured " <mscured > Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 2:52 PM  Hello everyone, I am at the end of my first month of porkarin and have seen small changes like, less fatigue, better sleep and a little improvement in walking. Please give me a feedback ,if any of you have been on prokarin for more tham a month. Do improvements continue? Prokarin is expansive, as there is no insurance coverage and a review from those who are using it, can help me . Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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