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Suze, I believe you're on the right track. We have to pay attention to

where the propaganda is coming from, where the money is flowing to and

from, and seek out unbiased, honest sources of information as much as

we possibly can. I also reject the left-right paradigm (used to

identify as a libertarian and still have a lot of sympathy that way,

but got turned off by their (some) worship of business and

corporations) and " isms " as I've not found any group with a monopoly

on the truth.

cheers,

Jeanmarie

On Aug 22, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Suze Fisher wrote:

> > I do think that some of the opinions and arguments expressed here

> > against any government involvement in healthcare sound like they are

> > coming right out of Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh, etc - it's amusing

> to

> > me to watch people who are so agitated by food propaganda, so

> ready to

> > accept propaganda by the extreme right on issues like this.

>

> I used to be myopically focused on food freedom issues and didn't

> realize

> that the corporate-controlled media (both left- and right-leaning as

> well as

> centrist) is loaded with false or misleading propaganda on a wide

> variety of

> issues, not just food and health.

>

> I'm a former lefty who has exited the false left-right paradigm, so

> what

> amuses (and saddens) me is the quibbles between leftwing and

> rightwing folks

> who are unaware that the oligarchs who control our politicians are

> laughing

> all the way to the bank while leaving us little people here to

> squabble over

> yet another government plan which the oligarchs will ultimately be the

> beneficiaries of while they hang us upside down to shake out the

> last few

> coins left in our pocket.

>

> The affordability of disease-care insurance would be a nearly moot

> issue of

> those very same oligarchs were not running the Fed and had not used

> their

> substantial power to manipulate the US dollar to the point that it's

> now

> only worth about 95% of it's value prior to the inception of the

> (privately

> owned) Fed. Prior to that, it had actually *gained* value for a

> period. If

> the money we had today could buy 20x as much, disease-care insurance

> would

> be affordable for a hell of lot more people.

>

> Of course, our dollars are going to be worth even less in the not too

> distant future because that $700 billion theft, I mean, " bailout "

> has now

> turned into over $23.7 TRILLION. And the Fed won't even let us know

> what

> they're spending most of it on.....

> That's probably one of the biggest news stories of the century...but

> do you

> see *that* on the front page of any rightwing or leftwing newspaper or

> website?

>

> Suze

>

>

>

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> Well, given that a true leftist is totally against corporate influence

> on society, and wants to restructure the society from its roots

> (radical), whereas liberals differ slightly from republicans for

> strategic reasons because they believe

> that these differences will best preserve the control of the rich/

> powerful - it is an important difference.

OK, let me get this straight...you say that TRUE leftists are totally

against corporate influence on society, but the leftist media you referenced

earlier is not reporting on the corporate theft of $23.7 TRILLION dollars

from us citizens?

Suze

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