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Yes you are sounding quite young these days. Bless your heart. Are we going

to stay out of time out today?

Crystal

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D@mn, I'm sounding like Crystal... [ggg]

>

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Moderator>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

>

> Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:21 pm (PDT)

>

> Actually, we are more than a group here. We are more of a family. We have

> never had one topic that we have discussed moderated (that I know of) and

> they have gotten way more heated than this bickering that has been

> going on.

> Ira has enough to deal with than to deal with the bickering that goes on

> here and would gladly pass the reins if he could. So let's not be putting

> pressure on him. All the bickering can stop without making him

> responsible.

> Let's not be name calling and referring to anyone as teenagers. That's

> rude and un-called for. This is a group that will help you and you may get

> the most diverse information here than in any other group. Everyone who is

> an active member here actually cares for the health of others and that is

> why they have been here for such a long time. If you have a question, ask

> it, if you don't like the way a group of emails is going then it is your

> right to say so, then you can hit delete thereon after. Moderate your

> inbox

> like I do when there is stuff you don't like.

> CW

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VVVVEEEERRRRYYY doubtful! [ggg]

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> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

> <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Moderator>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

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> Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:55 am (PDT)

>

> Yes you are sounding quite young these days. Bless your heart. Are we

> going

> to stay out of time out today?

> Crystal

>

> -- Re: Moderator

>

> D@mn, I'm sounding like Crystal... [ggg]

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absolutely...there hasn't been a whole lot to moderate, as we rarely have

conflicts of this type...and I can agree to disagree as well as the next

guy...but this guy would not give up, and started harassing me on my home email

address as well...which I gave out to those who wanted my help.

Because of this guy, I am still considering leaving. Even with  all the people

who have asked me to stay. I don't have  a lot of free time, and at times it has

taken a toll on me, but I have a hard time just walking away when people need

help. I feel for each person on this group.

What bothered me the most is that almost no one stood up for me with this

conflict. And maybe I should have bitten my tongue a little more... but

according to all the posts and emails asking me to stay, I have helped many of

you and am " an asset to the group " ...if this is so, why was I hung out to dry?

After all the time I have given over the years to helping people on here...why

did I have to deal with that alone?

Honestly I don't know that I feel like helping anyone here now. I think of you

all as friends (and NOT that I am better than any one of you, I hope you ALL

know that). But friends don't take the high road when the going gets tough. Even

if you all felt I was wrong, you could ave said SOMETHING. Even a supportive

" let it go " or whatever would have been fine, but stand up for me! I am very

disappointed.

I am grateful that SOMEONE on here apparently requested that be banned.

Someone did the right thing, and NOT for me...for the GROUP. People with that

kind of venom threaten the supporive thread that this group is supposed to

represent.

--- Babbitt

________________________________

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:26:43 PM

Subject: moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept the spam and

the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group, and has done a good job. I

will leave you to contemplate on a message below, I asked that was responded to

last winter. A couple people offered to help moderate the board at the time, but

I think it is pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on

a limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But it looks

like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this group. Which we all

have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each other. So what? I think a group

should be able to " moderate " itself. JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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So, I think its time we can all move on from this situation. is no

longer part of this group, so the conflict should end.

I think this group is a wonderful asset to those suffering with pain. I

joined this group almost 7 months ago, because I was going through a very

rough time with my pain. This group really came around me and supported

me. In particular, I received a lot of support from . Through group

postings and through email. I dont think I could have made it through

without her. , I am very sorry that I didnt take a better stand for

you. I too feel like a lot of us have gotten very close and helped each

other through some tough times. Lets not forget about all those times.

Lets try to move on from the past now! Lets get this group back to where

it should be. If you have received help from this group, then try to help

the next person that comes through with the same problem. That is what is

group is all about. Being helped and helping others. Often when we help

others, we forget about our own pain. Its great to feel like you can give

back what has been given to you!

Please Everyone, Lets not let what happened with tear this group

apart. We have something special here which I know many of us would miss.

I hope all of you are having a wonderful day and a low pain day.

Blessings, April

moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept

the spam and the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group,

and has done a good job. I will leave you to contemplate on a message

below, I asked that was responded to last winter. A couple people

offered to help moderate the board at the time, but I think it is

pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on a

limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But

it looks like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this

group. Which we all have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each

other. So what? I think a group should be able to " moderate " itself.

JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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I think you are forgetting one thing. " If a tree falls in a forest and no one is

around to hear it, does it make a sound? " , does it? I think most of us on this

group chose to do what I did.... not to " listen " . Yes when a tree falls, it does

not make a sound, it makes " sound waves " . If there is no one around to hear the

tree fall, yes it made waves, and it does cease to exist. But if no one was

around to witness it, did anyone hear it? So is there sound? " The production of

sound requires 3 things: A source, a medium, and a receiver, " I chose not to

receive it.

I think, like myself, most on this list just simply chose not to listen. I do

not see anybody jumping up in protest and support to the " other " people who said

they were leaving this list. Yes, you post alot of good info, and just because

you do post alot, there are people who simply " live " to find fault in what other

people say. Don't let it get to you. Trees that fall become tree stumps and dead

wood. Neither one is worth arguing with... ever try and talk to a tree???

Doesn't work.

They do not listen... and they are never going to be anything else but a tree...

or a stump in the woods...

in NH

moderator

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept the spam

and the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group, and has done a good

job. I will leave you to contemplate on a message below, I asked that was

responded to last winter. A couple people offered to help moderate the board at

the time, but I think it is pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am

going out on a limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around.

But it looks like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this group.

Which we all have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each other. So what? I

think a group should be able to " moderate " itself. JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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Well I think it's pretty sad...I sure wouldn't stand by watching a friend in

trouble and pretend not to hear it. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would

do the same for you or anyone else on here. And it doesn't matter what any of us

posts, wether useful or not, it's about sticking together. SUPPORT being the

name of the group.

It's not that I don't see your point...but everyone who didn't say anything

further reinforced HIS opinion.

If it were you , I would jump in to your defense, because we have known

each other on here for several years

and I know your motives and heart are good. I would not tolerate ANYONE swearing

and bad-mouthing you...for YOUR sake and for the sake of our group. That is just

not who we are and NO ONE should pretend it isn't there so it " doesn't make a

sound " . Disagreeing is one thing, and all are welcome to ignore, but character

attacks and swearing should NEVER be tolerated. You yourself said we should

moderate our own group...you can't moderate if you ignore. That is poor and

absent moderation.--- Babbitt

________________________________

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:45:45 PM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

I think you are forgetting one thing. " If a tree falls in a forest and no one is

around to hear it, does it make a sound? " , does it? I think most of us on this

group chose to do what I did.... not to " listen " . Yes when a tree falls, it does

not make a sound, it makes " sound waves " . If there is no one around to hear the

tree fall, yes it made waves, and it does cease to exist. But if no one was

around to witness it, did anyone hear it? So is there sound? " The production of

sound requires 3 things: A source, a medium, and a receiver, " I chose not to

receive it.

I think, like myself, most on this list just simply chose not to listen. I do

not see anybody jumping up in protest and support to the " other " people who said

they were leaving this list. Yes, you post alot of good info, and just because

you do post alot, there are people who simply " live " to find fault in what other

people say. Don't let it get to you. Trees that fall become tree stumps and dead

wood. Neither one is worth arguing with... ever try and talk to a tree???

Doesn't work.

They do not listen... and they are never going to be anything else but a tree...

or a stump in the woods...

in NH

moderator

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept the spam and

the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group, and has done a good job. I

will leave you to contemplate on a message below, I asked that was responded to

last winter. A couple people offered to help moderate the board at the time, but

I think it is pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on

a limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But it looks

like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this group. Which we all

have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each other. So what? I think a group

should be able to " moderate " itself. JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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, (and all other group members)

While I was away having my fusion performed, did I miss something?

Why am I now reading a message from you stating that " " needs to be

banned?  As my name is , am I the " " in question?  If so, could you

please tell me what I did or said to cause such a reaction?  Thanks for your

time,

dave

________________________________

From: Babbitt <tpowell1977@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:56:42 PM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

absolutely.. .there hasn't been a whole lot to moderate, as we rarely have

conflicts of this type...and I can agree to disagree as well as the next

guy...but this guy would not give up, and started harassing me on my home email

address as well...which I gave out to those who wanted my help.

Because of this guy, I am still considering leaving. Even with  all the people

who have asked me to stay. I don't have  a lot of free time, and at times it has

taken a toll on me, but I have a hard time just walking away when people need

help. I feel for each person on this group.

What bothered me the most is that almost no one stood up for me with this

conflict. And maybe I should have bitten my tongue a little more... but

according to all the posts and emails asking me to stay, I have helped many of

you and am " an asset to the group " ...if this is so, why was I hung out to dry?

After all the time I have given over the years to helping people on here...why

did I have to deal with that alone?

Honestly I don't know that I feel like helping anyone here now. I think of you

all as friends (and NOT that I am better than any one of you, I hope you ALL

know that). But friends don't take the high road when the going gets tough. Even

if you all felt I was wrong, you could ave said SOMETHING. Even a supportive

" let it go " or whatever would have been fine, but stand up for me! I am very

disappointed.

I am grateful that SOMEONE on here apparently requested that be banned.

Someone did the right thing, and NOT for me...for the GROUP. People with that

kind of venom threaten the supporive thread that this group is supposed to

represent.

--- Babbitt

____________ _________ _________ __

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@ roadrunner. com>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:26:43 PM

Subject: moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept the spam and

the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group, and has done a good job. I

will leave you to contemplate on a message below, I asked that was responded to

last winter. A couple people offered to help moderate the board at the time, but

I think it is pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on

a limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But it looks

like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this group. Which we all

have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each other. So what? I think a group

should be able to " moderate " itself. JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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meant to say , and yes he was banned from the group while you

were gone. He sent some very nasty messages and caused a lot of turmoil

in this group. He said some very nasty things to that were totally

out of line. He was a total jerk.  Luckily, He is no longer a member, and

we should be able to get back to our old group. Sorry for the confusion.

April

moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept

the spam and the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group,

and has done a good job. I will leave you to contemplate on a message

below, I asked that was responded to last winter. A couple people

offered to help moderate the board at the time, but I think it is

pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on a

limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But

it looks like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this

group. Which we all have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each

other. So what? I think a group should be able to " moderate " itself.

JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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Thanks for the response, April!

As I was just scanning some messages, that was one in which I ran across.  I

went back to the beginning of the 100+ postings and began reading.  Geez, some

of that is unbelievable!  I am sorry to everybody, affected or not affected.

I don't know much about the artificial prodisc, but I did a bit of research on

it when I was seeking information, not too long ago.  It was in clinical trials

at the time.  One of the doctors that was running it's show was Dr. Harel Deutch

from Rush Hospital in Chicago.  He could give anybody any information on that

matter.  When I sought another opinion about my fusion surgery, the orthopedic

surgeon stated that the pro-disc was now approved.  So people, this all happened

within a matter of months from the research I was able to obtain.

Anyhow, my back is hurting too much to continue sitting here at the computer and

read these post from people " crying " .  It's done and over.  We are all facing

much bigger issues.  Don't make anymore comments, period.

PLEASE:  SOMEBODY HELP ME IN TELLING ME HOW I CAN GET TRIGGER THE SQUIRTS OUT!?

I'll catch up with everybody tomorrow.  Lots of love to all.  This has truly

been a system of support for me! 

dave

________________________________

From: April <nanny04@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:26:43 AM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

meant to say , and yes he was banned from the group while you

were gone. He sent some very nasty messages and caused a lot of turmoil

in this group. He said some very nasty things to that were totally

out of line. He was a total jerk.  Luckily, He is no longer a member, and

we should be able to get back to our old group. Sorry for the confusion.

April

moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept

the spam and the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group,

and has done a good job. I will leave you to contemplate on a message

below, I asked that was responded to last winter. A couple people

offered to help moderate the board at the time, but I think it is

pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on a

limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But

it looks like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this

group. Which we all have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each

other. So what? I think a group should be able to " moderate " itself.

JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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,

I'm sorry you felt unsupported. I have to say, I didn't see any of these posts

til it was way deep. I saw what I thought was 2 people going after you (

with the " f " word and such and Mademxx or whatever). I did jump in, I felt, to

support you only to have one of them then turn on me (saying I wasn't reading

EVERY word, or whatever). Just know that a lot of us saw what was happening and

thought it best not to " stir the pot " . It seemed that anything said at that

point was not being heard, just dissected and twisted.

I believe everyone here is supported, even when we differ. That support ends

when heat, hate and venom are spewed, relentlessly and without merit.

So, from my perspective, you are supported, perhaps quietly, but you are. It

seems to me many asked and commented on you staying. Not a word to the others.

Sometimes, not stirring a pot is where people are, but it doesn't mean they

don't care and they don't see how obvious things are.

With that said, I appreciate your words and deeds. I do apologize for you

feeling anything less that appreciated!

>

> > I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> > but I do the best I can

> > with all I am responsible for including a full time

> > demanding job. I am

> > assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> > I haven't heard from him

> > in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> > was going to be history. My

> > stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> > enough shape that I can

> > work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> > believe me and I do make

> > sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> > At least you have a place

> > you can come and vent because you're right no one

> > understands like fellow

> > sufferes and yes I am one of them.

> >

>

>

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You're right... it was . Sorry.

 --- Babbitt

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From: April <nanny04@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:26:43 AM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

meant to say , and yes he was banned from the group while you

were gone. He sent some very nasty messages and caused a lot of turmoil

in this group. He said some very nasty things to that were totally

out of line. He was a total jerk.  Luckily, He is no longer a member, and

we should be able to get back to our old group. Sorry for the confusion.

April

moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept

the spam and the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group,

and has done a good job. I will leave you to contemplate on a message

below, I asked that was responded to last winter. A couple people

offered to help moderate the board at the time, but I think it is

pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on a

limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But

it looks like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this

group. Which we all have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each

other. So what? I think a group should be able to " moderate " itself.

JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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No Dave,,,not you...another ....

 --- Babbitt

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From: D Chavez <chavezd@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:23:12 AM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

, (and all other group members)

While I was away having my fusion performed, did I miss something?

Why am I now reading a message from you stating that " " needs to be

banned?  As my name is , am I the " " in question?  If so, could you

please tell me what I did or said to cause such a reaction?  Thanks for your

time,

dave

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Babbitt <tpowell1977>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 4:56:42 PM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

absolutely.. .there hasn't been a whole lot to moderate, as we rarely have

conflicts of this type...and I can agree to disagree as well as the next

guy...but this guy would not give up, and started harassing me on my home email

address as well...which I gave out to those who wanted my help.

Because of this guy, I am still considering leaving. Even with  all the people

who have asked me to stay. I don't have  a lot of free time, and at times it has

taken a toll on me, but I have a hard time just walking away when people need

help. I feel for each person on this group.

What bothered me the most is that almost no one stood up for me with this

conflict. And maybe I should have bitten my tongue a little more... but

according to all the posts and emails asking me to stay, I have helped many of

you and am " an asset to the group " ...if this is so, why was I hung out to dry?

After all the time I have given over the years to helping people on here...why

did I have to deal with that alone?

Honestly I don't know that I feel like helping anyone here now. I think of you

all as friends (and NOT that I am better than any one of you, I hope you ALL

know that). But friends don't take the high road when the going gets tough. Even

if you all felt I was wrong, you could ave said SOMETHING. Even a supportive

" let it go " or whatever would have been fine, but stand up for me! I am very

disappointed.

I am grateful that SOMEONE on here apparently requested that be banned.

Someone did the right thing, and NOT for me...for the GROUP. People with that

kind of venom threaten the supporive thread that this group is supposed to

represent.

--- Babbitt

____________ _________ _________ __

From: cathy mccarthy <bbhorsetack@ roadrunner. com>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 5:26:43 PM

Subject: moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept the spam and

the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group, and has done a good job. I

will leave you to contemplate on a message below, I asked that was responded to

last winter. A couple people offered to help moderate the board at the time, but

I think it is pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on

a limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But it looks

like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this group. Which we all

have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each other. So what? I think a group

should be able to " moderate " itself. JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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An enema always works if you get deperate...you'll feel a heck of a lot better

after! ;)

 --- Babbitt

________________________________

From: D Chavez <chavezd@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:10:46 AM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

Thanks for the response, April!

As I was just scanning some messages, that was one in which I ran across.  I

went back to the beginning of the 100+ postings and began reading.  Geez, some

of that is unbelievable!  I am sorry to everybody, affected or not affected.

I don't know much about the artificial prodisc, but I did a bit of research on

it when I was seeking information, not too long ago.  It was in clinical trials

at the time.  One of the doctors that was running it's show was Dr. Harel Deutch

from Rush Hospital in Chicago.  He could give anybody any information on that

matter.  When I sought another opinion about my fusion surgery, the orthopedic

surgeon stated that the pro-disc was now approved.  So people, this all happened

within a matter of months from the research I was able to obtain.

Anyhow, my back is hurting too much to continue sitting here at the computer and

read these post from people " crying " .  It's done and over.  We are all facing

much bigger issues.  Don't make anymore comments, period.

PLEASE:  SOMEBODY HELP ME IN TELLING ME HOW I CAN GET TRIGGER THE SQUIRTS OUT!?

I'll catch up with everybody tomorrow.  Lots of love to all.  This has truly

been a system of support for me! 

dave

____________ _________ _________ __

From: April <nanny04email2me (DOT) net>

spinedisorderssuppo rtgroup@gro ups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:26:43 AM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

meant to say , and yes he was banned from the group while you

were gone. He sent some very nasty messages and caused a lot of turmoil

in this group. He said some very nasty things to that were totally

out of line. He was a total jerk.  Luckily, He is no longer a member, and

we should be able to get back to our old group. Sorry for the confusion.

April

moderator

 

Yes there is a moderator of this group, obviously somebody has kept

the spam and the likeways " smut " and " advertising " off this group,

and has done a good job. I will leave you to contemplate on a message

below, I asked that was responded to last winter. A couple people

offered to help moderate the board at the time, but I think it is

pretty good (the board) as it is... (GOOD GRIEF I am going out on a

limb here...) Yes there was recently alot of " mud " slung around. But

it looks like it has calmed down (I hope). " VENTING " is part of this

group. Which we all have a right to do. NO, we DO NOT ALL like each

other. So what? I think a group should be able to " moderate " itself.

JMO. in NH

_KLRRRT2@... _ (mailto:KLRRRT2@ ...) wrote:

> I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> but I do the best I can

> with all I am responsible for including a full time

> demanding job. I am

> assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> I haven't heard from him

> in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> was going to be history. My

> stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> enough shape that I can

> work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> believe me and I do make

> sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> At least you have a place

> you can come and vent because you're right no one

> understands like fellow

> sufferes and yes I am one of them.

>

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You are so right...I guess I just needed to step out of my box and see if from

another perspective...thanks!

 --- Babbitt

________________________________

From: ljw75010 <ljw75010@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:49:13 AM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

,

I'm sorry you felt unsupported. I have to say, I didn't see any of these posts

til it was way deep. I saw what I thought was 2 people going after you (

with the " f " word and such and Mademxx or whatever). I did jump in, I felt, to

support you only to have one of them then turn on me (saying I wasn't reading

EVERY word, or whatever). Just know that a lot of us saw what was happening and

thought it best not to " stir the pot " . It seemed that anything said at that

point was not being heard, just dissected and twisted.

I believe everyone here is supported, even when we differ. That support ends

when heat, hate and venom are spewed, relentlessly and without merit.

So, from my perspective, you are supported, perhaps quietly, but you are. It

seems to me many asked and commented on you staying. Not a word to the others.

Sometimes, not stirring a pot is where people are, but it doesn't mean they

don't care and they don't see how obvious things are.

With that said, I appreciate your words and deeds. I do apologize for you

feeling anything less that appreciated!

>

> > I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> > but I do the best I can

> > with all I am responsible for including a full time

> > demanding job. I am

> > assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> > I haven't heard from him

> > in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> > was going to be history. My

> > stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> > enough shape that I can

> > work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> > believe me and I do make

> > sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> > At least you have a place

> > you can come and vent because you're right no one

> > understands like fellow

> > sufferes and yes I am one of them.

> >

>

>

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, I apologize if it took me too long to step in. Please forgive me. I am

new to this group and I was not sure of the ramifications. Sometimes it's hard

to know what's the right thing to do. It doesn't mean people don't care.

Sometimes I just don't know what is best for everyone especially when I'm new to

a site. I know you have a big heart so please accept my apologies if I did not

step in sooner to say something.

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> , I apologize if it took me too long to step in. Please forgive me. I am

new to this group and I was not sure of the ramifications. Sometimes it's hard

to know what's the right thing to do. It doesn't mean people don't care.

Sometimes I just don't know what is best for everyone especially when I'm new to

a site. I know you have a big heart so please accept my apologies if I did not

step in sooner to say something.

>

i am new here to. i am not sure of just one word, for me things just come

out from my experiences,

hugs hun

Roby (female)

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Who the heck had the nerve to pick on " our " while I was having surgery?? 

I've caught up on all the post and witnessed all the childishness of many

comments.  Leave it be, it's all done!!  Please, nobody else mention anything

more about it.  Prior to this, there were at least 2 other minor disagreements. 

Remember folks, most of what is written is only our opinions, and what we

believe to be facts.  Very few of us are trained medical specialists with all

the specific knowledge being asked on every subject.  Sometimes, we all may

happen to get something wrong and be mistaken.  However, at no time should

anybody degrade themselves to using derogatory terms or name calling.  Although

we may not see any type of " negativity " in our own posts, there are others whom

may potential view something that we have written as " negative " .  We all respond

differently and just let's appreciate the advice/assistance that others are

asking of us. 

Currently, we all have our thoughts, views, and beliefs about others, but they

are groundless.  We don't know their true selves.  Regardless of what anybody

may think of , she is always fair.  Yes, she may stand firm in her beliefs

and a tough " cookie to crack " , but she is extremely knowledgeable about the

subject matter we all wish to know more about.  It would be such a devastating

loss if she were to leave our support group.  I'm not saying it's okay for

others to go, but just that everybody needs to reevaluate what they bring to the

forum.  We all could learn something from her, as she could from us.  That is

what this platform is all about, asking questions and offering thoughts, not

diagnosing.  We are all just try to help direct to obtaining the best by using

our knowledge and past experience(s).  Let's try to use more humor.

Love to all,

--

dave

________________________________

From: robymill <robymill@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:32:58 PM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

>

> , I apologize if it took me too long to step in. Please forgive me. I am

new to this group and I was not sure of the ramifications. Sometimes it's hard

to know what's the right thing to do. It doesn't mean people don't care.

Sometimes I just don't know what is best for everyone especially when I'm new to

a site. I know you have a big heart so please accept my apologies if I did not

step in sooner to say something.

>

i am new here to. i am not sure of just one word, for me things just come

out from my experiences,

hugs hun

Roby (female)

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Dave,

I had that after my surgery...they let me leave the hospital without have a bm

(after 5 days)!!! I did prunes, mangos, etc....I finally had to get one of the

suppositories over the counter that works in 5 minutes...and it did!!! Thank

the Lord!!! I hope that helps.

>

> > I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> > but I do the best I can

> > with all I am responsible for including a full time

> > demanding job. I am

> > assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> > I haven't heard from him

> > in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> > was going to be history. My

> > stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> > enough shape that I can

> > work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> > believe me and I do make

> > sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> > At least you have a place

> > you can come and vent because you're right no one

> > understands like fellow

> > sufferes and yes I am one of them.

> >

>

>

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Although all is better now as of this evening, I was also given a suppository

while still in the hospital.

I might not have been able to dominate a #1, but what I was able to produce was

plenty of fine by me.  Unless others ask me to, I don't want to get into details

about my bowel movement.  I'm just not sure that other group members withhold

the same sense of humor as I do, nor do I want to step on anybody's toes.

dave

________________________________

From: ljw75010 <ljw75010@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:21:55 PM

Subject: Re: moderator

 

Dave,

I had that after my surgery...they let me leave the hospital without have a bm

(after 5 days)!!! I did prunes, mangos, etc....I finally had to get one of the

suppositories over the counter that works in 5 minutes...and it did!!! Thank the

Lord!!! I hope that helps.

>

> > I do moderate this board, I am sorry you have issues

> > but I do the best I can

> > with all I am responsible for including a full time

> > demanding job. I am

> > assistant moderator the other person owns the group.

> > I haven't heard from him

> > in years since I took over the group otherwise it

> > was going to be history. My

> > stories go unacknowledged on here and I am in good

> > enough shape that I can

> > work so I let you all have you're peace. I do hurt

> > believe me and I do make

> > sure there's no spam or horrible blasters on here.

> > At least you have a place

> > you can come and vent because you're right no one

> > understands like fellow

> > sufferes and yes I am one of them.

> >

>

>

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Thanks for the reminder, Mark. I personally will leave the politics

out. I'm sick of it anyway... <g>

I've been listening to podcasts from Nora Gedgaudas, author of Primal

Body, Primal Mind. She's terrific. Anyone familiar with her work?

Jeanmarie

On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, theta wrote:

> Where is our moderator? Please ask members to stay on topic and not

> stray too far - it is out of hand at the moment. Thank you. -=mark=-

>

>

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