Re: Borax for flouride detox - haecklers 'heart' problem

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I was looking up morning nausea after antibiotics and I found someone's blog on

how they cleared up their symptoms which sounded familiar - their problem was

inflammation of the intestinal lining causing food sensitivities. DUH!

Antibiotics = dysbiosis. I'd been on them for almost a month. I think what I

was worrying about being heart damage was just inflammation reactions to protein

chains leaking from my digestive system causing immune responses. I've been

taking 3 kinds of probiotics plus raw milk and the last few days I'm finally

starting to feel better. It takes awhile to fix that once you let it get bad.

It makes me wonder how many people who have chronic fatigue or other problems

just never recovered from antibiotics upsetting the balance in their digestive

systems.

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> > > > I got the book by Dr. Waldbott, " The Fluroide Dilemma " , and in it he

mentions that in autopsies one of the places where the most fluoride was found

was the aorta, which had something like 1,000 times the fluoride in the

surrounding tissue. He believed iodine had a role in preventing clogging of the

arteries/heart disease and that fluoride was being attracted there because of

its similarity to iodine but not fulfilling the role.

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> > > > I've been thinking about heart health a lot lately - ever since the MD

gave me bactrim, a sulfa drug, which I'm allergic to (she didn't ask me, lost

the chart, and didn't mention it was a sulfa drug - I found that out when I

looked up side effects!) and it kept me up for 5 nights and turned me yellow

I've felt tired and weak, sometimes feeling like fainting. I thought it had

messed up my blood sugar but it also matches heart damage. Taking sugar doesn't

seem to help my " spells " , but laying flat and resting does. SCAAAARY!

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> > > > I really believe if you've got a lot of fluoride in your aorta, you may

not want to force it out too fast or you could cause more problems - things

swell as they heal, you know? Maybe slow and steady with the iodine would be

safest - take as much as you can tolerate, making sure it's a good source (i.e.

no additives causing problems) and wait a couple of years. Jerry Brunetti

thought it took a year of high dose iodine to get rid of his fluroide and

bromide.

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> > > > Another thing is it may not be your heart at all - the thyroid and

adrenals are pretty closely linked and if the thyroid is doing weird stuff

because it's not used to getting iodine then maybe it's causing an adrenaline

rush.

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> > > > So far for my heart I'm just planning on cutting down the sweets/carbs,

trying for mild exercise as my tendons recover, and taking the vitamin C/lysine

combo that's supposed to roto-rooter the vessels, along with MSM for

inflammation and probiotics to get my flora and fauna back on track.

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> > > > --- In , " crayfishfeed " <crayfishfeed@>

wrote:

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> > > > > lol, I promise you if I drop off the list the least of the reasons

will be the borax, it will be my other toxic issues.

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> > > > > What happends to me when I take the iodine is I always get heart

arrythmias (like my heart flipflopping in my chest) and even more exhaustion

than I already have. I do the salt protocol but it just got me thinking of more

than the bromides being the problem hence the flouride investigation. It's so

hard to tell, or to know what's going on for sure especially b/c I can't afford

tests, plus i don't even know if they can test for flouride.

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> > > > > I am either going to try borax itself or a boron supplement, just to

see. I always start slowly and gently as I have done with a lot of other things.

I mean your advice of " be careful " is good, you can't hear that enough in health

seeking endeavors. What struck me about this is how people said it really helped

them with their chronic fatigue. Some of the testimonials really interested me

but of course I wonder: did it continue to help them beyond the time since they

posted, had they made more than one change which is so common and yet people

fail to report the other stuff they were doing?

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How long were you on the bactrim. what were the symptoms that made you think

heart? Was it the turning yellow?

This is pure speculation and theorizing but it seems the heart is a pretty

strong organ that can take a lot while the intestines seem more susceptible to

acute damage with their populations of good and bad bacteria and the villi that

can get damaged on top the other things that damage intestinal lining like

fluoride in water and tooth paste, intestinal parasites, food allergies, use of

certain prescription and nonprescription drugs, stress, inadequate secretion of

pancreatic enzymes or HCL, lactose intolerance, gluten (wheat) intolerance,

chemical exposure, heavy metal exposure, chemotherapy, X-Rays, etc.

Again, just speculation, I know there's a lot that can go wrong with the heart

too.

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> > > > > > lol, I promise you if I drop off the list the least of the reasons

will be the borax, it will be my other toxic issues.

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> > > > > > What happends to me when I take the iodine is I always get heart

arrythmias (like my heart flipflopping in my chest) and even more exhaustion

than I already have. I do the salt protocol but it just got me thinking of more

than the bromides being the problem hence the flouride investigation. It's so

hard to tell, or to know what's going on for sure especially b/c I can't afford

tests, plus i don't even know if they can test for flouride.

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> > > > > > I am either going to try borax itself or a boron supplement, just to

see. I always start slowly and gently as I have done with a lot of other things.

I mean your advice of " be careful " is good, you can't hear that enough in health

seeking endeavors. What struck me about this is how people said it really helped

them with their chronic fatigue. Some of the testimonials really interested me

but of course I wonder: did it continue to help them beyond the time since they

posted, had they made more than one change which is so common and yet people

fail to report the other stuff they were doing?

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The turning yellow was scary but it was the fatigue, lightheadedness, bloated

belly, swollen ankles that got me concerned. But it could be low blood sugar

from the doxycycline, dysbiosis, and the swollen ankles could be just the damage

from the infections in my legs. I read that if you get too swollen for too long

it damages the lymphatic system to make you more likely to swell. I tried to be

really careful not to let them swell too much but they did get cankle-like for a

week or so.

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> > > > > > > lol, I promise you if I drop off the list the least of the reasons

will be the borax, it will be my other toxic issues.

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> > > > > > > What happends to me when I take the iodine is I always get heart

arrythmias (like my heart flipflopping in my chest) and even more exhaustion

than I already have. I do the salt protocol but it just got me thinking of more

than the bromides being the problem hence the flouride investigation. It's so

hard to tell, or to know what's going on for sure especially b/c I can't afford

tests, plus i don't even know if they can test for flouride.

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> > > > > > > I am either going to try borax itself or a boron supplement, just

to see. I always start slowly and gently as I have done with a lot of other

things. I mean your advice of " be careful " is good, you can't hear that enough

in health seeking endeavors. What struck me about this is how people said it

really helped them with their chronic fatigue. Some of the testimonials really

interested me but of course I wonder: did it continue to help them beyond the

time since they posted, had they made more than one change which is so common

and yet people fail to report the other stuff they were doing?

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are you still fatigued?

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> > > > > > > > lol, I promise you if I drop off the list the least of the

reasons will be the borax, it will be my other toxic issues.

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> > > > > > > > What happends to me when I take the iodine is I always get heart

arrythmias (like my heart flipflopping in my chest) and even more exhaustion

than I already have. I do the salt protocol but it just got me thinking of more

than the bromides being the problem hence the flouride investigation. It's so

hard to tell, or to know what's going on for sure especially b/c I can't afford

tests, plus i don't even know if they can test for flouride.

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> > > > > > > > I am either going to try borax itself or a boron supplement,

just to see. I always start slowly and gently as I have done with a lot of other

things. I mean your advice of " be careful " is good, you can't hear that enough

in health seeking endeavors. What struck me about this is how people said it

really helped them with their chronic fatigue. Some of the testimonials really

interested me but of course I wonder: did it continue to help them beyond the

time since they posted, had they made more than one change which is so common

and yet people fail to report the other stuff they were doing?

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