adrenal burnout/thyroid

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For me, it's a long story, and to some extent an ongoing story. I'll

respond more fully when I can, as it's not quite as simple as cured/

not cured. I learned how to take better care of myself and I

definitely don't have the extreme symptoms I once did (tired and wired

simultaneously, deep exhaustion and feeling the adrenaline coursing

through my body at the same time etc). I followed the recommendations

is Adrenal Fatigue: The 21st Century Disease. I think that's by the

same doctor behind www.adrenalfatigue.org if I remember correctly.

Ross, whom I went to see at her clinic, gave me good advice that

I ignored and lived to regret (don't train for a marathon when you are

in grief and recovering from various emotional shocks and physical

stressors!). I started getting into WAP at about the same time and as

I've adopted these principles I have seen better results. Avoiding

sugar and caffeine, getting plenty of good fats and sufficient

protein, eating lacto/fermented foods, taking appropriate supplements,

especially CLO, are of course the foundation. And getting good quality

sleep. Controlling negative/defeatist thinking. Of course real life

gets in the way of all of these...

Jeanmarie

On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Katrina Cabral wrote:

> Has anyone here cured themselves of adrenal fatigue/burnout? I have

> heard of

> a lot of people being diagnosed with it, and going through treatment

> for it,

> but have yet to hear from anyone that has come through it and has been

> cured. Wondering what worked for you if you have found a successful

> treatment.

>

> On 9/11/09 8:16 AM, " Jeanmarie Todd " <jaytee3@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have read that thyroid problems can't be corrected if there is an

> > underlying adrenal disorder without healing the adrenals first (see

> > Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas). Hormones are so

> > interrelated...if adrenal burnout or exhaustion is at all suspected,

> > I'd try to address that (been through that myself). Ross's

> books

> > are helpful on both adrenal and thyroid issues (The Diet Cure, The

> > Mood Cure). Also check out www.adrenalfatigue.org.

> > Best,

> > Jeanmarie

> >

> > On Sep 10, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Dawn wrote:

> >

> >> > That's a low temperature. Mine gets down to 96.5 or so and I'm

> still

> >> > working on it.

> >> >

> >> > Most doctors are clueless about thyroid. You should get a copy

> of The

> >> > Thyroid Solution by Ridha Arem (that's my endocrinologist).

> Though

> >> > he's not

> >> > a natural doctor he is excellent on diagnosis and has got me

> feeling

> >> > better

> >> > than I did though I'd like to take more of a healing approach. He

> >> > does not

> >> > think it's something that can be healed.

> >> >

> >> > The CLO is for Vit D, A and the Omega 3's. If she has a low temp,

> >> > hair loss

> >> > it is looking likely there are thyroid issues especially

> considering

> >> > how

> >> > common it is these days.

> >> >

> >> > I would not eat the Ezekial bread. I have not found one that

> did not

> >> > contain soy and soy is very bad for the thyroid as well as other

> >> > things.

> >> > Only naturally fermented soy should be eaten.

> >> >

> >> > Here is the first place I learned about thyroid problems when I

> took

> >> > myself

> >> > to the endocrinologist after being dismissed by the family

> doctor.

> >> > <http://thyroid.about.com/> http://thyroid.about.com/

> >> >

> >> > The family doctor felt it was unnecessary to test me despite the

> >> > fact I had

> >> > many of the symptoms, unexplained weight gain, fatigue, dry skin,

> >> > hair loss,

> >> > low temperature and I had PAIN in my neck that is actually my

> >> > thyroid! I

> >> > saw the endo and he diagnosed me right away with autoimmune

> >> > thyroiditis and

> >> > started monitoring me closely for cancer because of some

> suspicious

> >> > nodules.

> >> >

> >> > There is an article in one of the latest Wise Traditions

> newsletters

> >> > from

> >> > Weston A Price by an endocrinologist that does natural

> practice. I am

> >> > considering trying to get a phone consult if I can afford it

> after I

> >> > see my

> >> > regular Endo and pay out of pocket (no insurance) for my labs. I

> >> > have to

> >> > get tested for many things not just TSH as this doesn't really

> tell

> >> > us much

> >> > except what the pituitary gland is or isn't doing.

> >> >

> >> > I have also read things about taking iodine from Dr. Brownstein

> but

> >> > that

> >> > should be done with care. Others on this list have done that I

> think

> >> > and

> >> > can advise you perhaps. I have started taking mine again now

> that I

> >> > can't

> >> > get my Armour and the endo I saw last year, totally inept,

> doesn't

> >> > give a

> >> > damn about getting me some alternative. It seems to be making me

> >> > feel a

> >> > little better but I hate taking the Lugol's. tastes bleh.

> >> >

> >> > Good luck!

> >> >

> >> > Dawn

> >> >

> >> > From:

> >> <mailto: %40>

> >> > [mailto:

> >> <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of

> >> > repent_kog_is_near

> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:20 AM

> >> >

> >> <mailto: %40>

> >> > Subject: Re: natural hair products.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for your helpful info, Dawn:

> >> > The doctors said she does not have hypo. But the morning temp is

> >> > only around

> >> > 97F. The natural doctors have extensive harmone tests but that

> range

> >> > in the

> >> > 400-700$ range, and we can't afford it (or we try to avoid, by

> eating

> >> > healthly, hoping something will help)

> >> >

> >> > she probably gets gluten from Ezekial bread which has sprouted

> wheat.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks for the advice on Probiotics & CLO. CLO, primarily for

> Vit D,

> >> > right?

> >> >

> >> > Dan.

> >> >

> >> >

> >>> > >

> >>>> > > > My wife, inspite of a clean diet, is losing a lot of hair

> and the

> >>>> > > > root is thinning out & breaks away; Dandruff exists.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > I would appreciate any further input on what can be done.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > She is desperate to try any useful products also, apart

> from diet,

> >>>> > > > and we came across this as the best in Walmart,

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > >

> >> > http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=12018878#Ingredients

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > but has many questionable ingredients. If there would be

> any

> >>>> > > > recommended products in the natural line, we would be

> willing to

> >>>> > > > give it a try.

> >>>> > > >

> >>>> > > > Any thoughts will be helpful

> >>>> > > > Regards

> >>>> > > > Dan.

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